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[Fortlowe]

You've been in this grid for too long, it slaved you, it made you selectively ignored so many important facts. why? to kill the time.
 

I'm not blaming someone, but things happened for a reason.

Anything Cole says or even thinks is questionable because it is a fact that it was delusional. Self deluded. It believed it was a twelve year old boy that died. That being the case, Z raises a valid concern about Cole's story.

[Fortlowe]

He may have absorbed them when he killed the original Cole. We know he possesses some incredibly powerful blood magic. Maybe you can absorb memories through blood?

That's my reckoning as well. Cole was likely the creatures first victim.

[Defne]

His body is alive, but without body and soul (or at least soul) from original Cole... He is the Maker or what?

[Altus Mage]

His body is alive, but without body and soul (or at least soul) from original Cole... He is the Maker or what?

I doubt that. I think he's got a Justice kinda thing going on. Maybe he came to the original Cole as a Spirit of Hope. Not sure, but he's definitely intriguing. 

[raging_monkey]

Idea: cole(orignial) did a anders after the templars pronuced him dead, but lad was still alive but the boy died during the process becoming more spirit than ambomination. He took on coles memories and appearance in order to subconciously cope

[SnakeCode]

I doubt that. I think he's got a Justice kinda thing going on. Maybe he came to the original Cole as a Spirit of Hope. Not sure, but he's definitely intriguing. 

I've seen a few people say this, but I don't know why he'd let Cole die if that was the case. There's no hope in a slow, suffering, death.

[Icy Magebane]

His body is alive, but without body and soul (or at least soul) from original Cole... He is the Maker or what?

I thought Cole's body was burned by the Templars after he died and the Fade entity created a body in the image of the original...?

[Defne]

Only solid spirits, not like humans or so.

[Kisari]

I thought Cole's body was burned by the Templars after he died and the Fade entity created a body in the image of the original...?

Technically what was said was that the Templars got rid of all evidence of human!Cole existing. Since Andrastians normally burn their dead this was the conclusion. What it actually means we don't know.

[Master Warder Z_]

Technically what was said was that the Templars got rid of all evidence of human!Cole existing. Since Andrastians normally burn their dead this was the conclusion. What it actually means we don't know.

 

Nevarran's make mummies

[LobselVith8]

His body is alive, but without body and soul (or at least soul) from original Cole... He is the Maker or what?

 

Well, some spirits seem to be able to cross the barrier between the Beyond and the world of mortals and have a physical form without possession, so it could simply be an issue that Cole is taking the shape of the young boy who he found starving to death in the White Spire. Cole is more of an enigma as he actually thought he was the Fereldan Cole who died in the Spire. As we know from Justice's symbiosis with Anders, spirits can have trouble adjusting to the mortal plane, because things are drastically different in the Beyond.

 

Things could also be different for Cole during Inquisition, since the Breach might be having an impact on Cole.

[Master Warder Z_]

Did you just post that so you could call the Fade the "Beyond"?

[raging_monkey]

*Wears referee shirt*Fade and beyond are interchangable... ill allow it

[Master Warder Z_]

*Wears referee shirt*Fade and beyond are interchangable... ill allow it

 

Well i mean it's lob.

 

About the only time he ever contributes to a thread period is when he can basically put in dalish ideology or methodology into it.

[raging_monkey]

Im a lurker so i agree but its accepted terminalogy. But lets them.
If the fade(beyond) is different may be it did something to cole or cole is from there

[Defne]

Solid spirits are not alive and grow, Cole is alive and no child.

[SgtSteel91]

I, for one, am glad that they have explicitly said that you can not recruit Cole if you don't want to.

 

I am interested in having Cole as a companion and seeing where they go with his story, but everyone can have it their way.

[Master Warder Z_]

I, for one, am glad that they have explicitly said that you can not recruit Cole if you don't want to.

 

I am interested in having Cole as a companion and seeing where they go with his story, but everyone can have it their way.

 

That was positive news.

[The Elder King]

I think he's the second character it seems we're not forced to recruit, though he's the only
one confirmed (Patrick hinted that we don't have to recruit IB).

[Dust]

That's my reckoning as well. Cole was likely the creatures first victim.

 

Well, some spirits seem to be able to cross the barrier between the Beyond and the world of mortals and have a physical form without possession, so it could simply be an issue that Cole is taking the shape of the young boy who he found starving to death in the White Spire. Cole is more of an enigma as he actually thought he was the Fereldan Cole who died in the Spire. As we know from Justice's symbiosis with Anders, spirits can have trouble adjusting to the mortal plane, because things are drastically different in the Beyond.

 

Things could also be different for Cole during Inquisition, since the Breach might be having an impact on Cole.

 

Technically what was said was that the Templars got rid of all evidence of human!Cole existing. Since Andrastians normally burn their dead this was the conclusion. What it actually means we don't know.

 

All these assumptions just too simple to tell, and the words in the book are vague and are too subjective to be confirmed as evidence.

 

David Gaider said one day he may talk about where he came from, and it's a really strange story.

 

I just can't imagine how strange it would be, because from what I saw, he is either a extremely well-designed character or a huge story bug. Just think about all these self-conscious, all these dreams and inner struggles, the song of the Old God, his posttramatic stress response and the changing purpose, and where did he get that combat skill?

[Dust]

Anything Cole says or even thinks is questionable because it is a fact that it was delusional. Self deluded. It believed it was a twelve year old boy that died. That being the case, Z raises a valid concern about Cole's story.

 

It's not delusional, I'm not sure about so many things, but I'm sure of that.

[Dust]

Solid spirits are not alive and grow, Cole is alive and no child.

 

Although Litany of Adralla had no effect on his physical existence, but we still can't ignore the fact that he once entered the Fade without the ritual. I don't think he was using blood magic, as for how the spirit and human integrated into current Cole is still unknown, he is more than a human, more than a spirit though.

 

"When you enter the Fade, you do so in mind only. It is nearly impossible for any person to physically set foot there. Only a group of ancient Tevinter magisters was famously able to accomplish the feat, and only by invoking blood magic of unimaginable power. The act was said to spur the Blight, and has not since been achieved. " -TWOT. p.131

[Wissenschaft]

All these assumptions just too simple to tell, and the words in the book are vague and are too subjective to be confirmed as evidence.

 

David Gaider said one day he may talk about where he came from, and it's a really strange story.

 

 

Gaider meant where the idea of Cole came from within him as an author. I'm not sure I'd like to know the truth about Cole, sometimes keeping something a mystery is best.

[Dust]

Gaider meant where the idea of Cole came from within him as an author. I'm not sure I'd like to know the truth about Cole, sometimes keeping something a mystery is best.

 

Yes, you're right, I get it wrong. (I really need to improve my english standard now  )

[Fortlowe]

It's not delusional, I'm not sure about so many things, but I'm sure of that.

I truly do not mean you any ill will, insult, or injury, however this post very clearly illustrates my point. The character Cole is designed to bypass reason by means of sentiment. 'Cole' is not Cole. It believed it was Cole. That it believed that it was so is a delusion. As is sharing that delusion. Which is its design.

True enough, it is a theory, but until a more complete explanation for the nature of Cole is established, that the child Cole and the spirit Cole are entirely separate entities and that the spirit believed for years that it was the child until it came to believe it was not is the status quo for this character. It WAS delusional. That delusion calls into question all information accounted for from its perspective.