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[Ammonite]

I will definitely have Cole and Sera with me at some point. Apart from the potential for hilariously childish disputes, I am also hoping for some change in their relationship, like with Isabela and Aveline. The potential is there, as they both seem to believe strongly in helping the little folk and might find common ground through that.

[Dust]

I will definitely have Cole and Sera with me at some point. Apart from the potential for hilariously childish disputes, I am also hoping for some change in their relationship, like with Isabela and Aveline. The potential is there, as they both seem to believe strongly in helping the little folk and might find common ground through that.

 

Yes, development is essential for characterizations. For Sera, "it's not about what's right, it's about what's right now.” It seems like they've prepared huge room for her growth. 

 

However, I have no idea how long this chaos will last. The time span of DA2 is 7 years. I hope there is enough time for us to gain in-depth understandings about companions, but on the other side, I’am terribly worried about Blackwall’s physical condition, since he is tactically replaceable, that “thing” could really happen during the game.

[Darth Spike]

I'm actually exited to see Cole in the game. His character interested me in the books. I want to know what's going on with him and the 'spirit' that was in his body at the end of the book. I say spirit because it isn't really confirmed that the spirit is a demon. Before you guys say it is because of the whole litany thing then let me say this, wouldn't the litany work on people like Wynne the same way? Her body was inhabited by a spirit from the Fade and no one says anything about the people who were inhabited by spirits. They just focus on the demons and how mages are evil for making deals with them.


So yeah, love that he's in the game and wondering if you meet Rhys and them in the game will it change anything. 

[GreyVsGray]

I'm actually exited to see Cole in the game. His character interested me in the books. I want to know what's going on with him and the 'spirit' that was in his body at the end of the book. I say spirit because it isn't really confirmed that the spirit is a demon. Before you guys say it is because of the whole litany thing then let me say this, wouldn't the litany work on people like Wynne the same way? Her body was inhabited by a spirit from the Fade and no one says anything about the people who were inhabited by spirits. They just focus on the demons and how mages are evil for making deals with them.


So yeah, love that he's in the game and wondering if you meet Rhys and them in the game will it change anything.

There was no spirit in his body. That spirit WAS Cole who pretty much 

Spoiler

Gathered his skill and courage to kill Lambert and try to help Rhys and his friends. The Cole we know is the quasi-best friend of the real one that was abandoned by the Templars to starve in the lower reaches of the White Spire.

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[Defne]

Proves nothing.

[Master Warder Z_]

It's a demon until proven otherwise.

[Dust]

There was no spirit in his body. That spirit WAS Cole who pretty much 

Spoiler

Gathered his skill and courage to kill Lambert and try to help Rhys and his friends. The Cole we know is the quasi-best friend of the real one that was abandoned by the Templars to starve in the lower reaches of the White Spire.

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Technically, he is not the human Cole, not anymore at lest since I believe his physical body was truly dead.

 

But he doesn’t need to be alive to exist. 

 

His human soul can still be preserved by this fade being and became its source of projection. I’m more inclining to the concept that this fade being is half good half evil, the good part kept his soul and “projected" a physical body for him while the evil part gave him the invisibility and the power to alter the memories.

 

Nevertheless, it doesn’t change the fact that the human Cole is taking control of the power now. Although he still have to fight between the dark and light, but who doesn’t? From an existentialism point view, this is just the very constant struggle that defines us as an existed human being.

[Dust]

It's a demon until proven otherwise.

 

No matter how many proves smashing on your face, you will still believe he is a demon.

[SgtSteel91]

Don't care for labels. I just want to get to know Cole.

 

It probably won't happen, but it would be cool to send in Cole to clear out a fort and he kills all the guards but still props them up like they are still on duty like Jaqen H'ghar does at Harrenhall in Game of Thrones.

[raging_monkey]

I think cole is a reverse abomination personally

[Dust]

I think cole is a reverse abomination personally

 

A Spirit possessed by a human soul. Interesting, do we have precedents？

[raging_monkey]

A Spirit possessed by a human soul. Interesting, do we have precedents？

not a damn one... but maybe flemeth but idk. Just a thought that popped in my head

[Defne]

Baroness.

[raging_monkey]

Baroness.

pretty sure she was abomination wasnt she ? If so then yeah gives a point to my theory

[Master Warder Z_]

No matter how many proves smashing on your face, you will still believe he is a demon.

There isn't anything indicating that it isn't so.

[Defne]

pretty sure she was abomination wasnt she ? If so then yeah gives a point to my theory

She was a soul and possessed.

[raging_monkey]

She was a soul and possessed.

well ill be a nugs uncle we have oir precident

[Fortlowe]

That precedent being she finds the blood of children most agreeable, she traps her victims in a nightmare in the Fade long after their corporeal demise, or that she used the life of someone else to physically cross over the Veil?

[Lulupab]

It's a demon until proven otherwise.

You called Vengeance a demon too and you have considerable reasons to do so. Eventhough for the most part he is the Justice we know from Awakening simply sharing body and soul with Anders, like Anders himself he can lose himself to anger as well. A trait he got from merging with Anders. When fully enraged he turns into a force of Vengeance and can do "demony" things. Now in our encounter with him in the fade, you'll see that there is no sign of Vengeance, he is Justice, the same spirit we met on Awakening. However the interesting part is inside the fade he is recognized as a spirit by a demon (Torpor). No one is going to ignore this and blatantly call every fade entity they see a demon. ~rolls eyes

Now Cole is clearly called a spirit on DA:I official site. So he is a spirit until proven otherwise. What he does cannot change his fundamental being.

[Dust]

There isn't anything indicating that it isn't so.

 

Logical Falsification.

 

if he is a demon, with the power you just granted to him, the world should have long been destroyed.

[BloodKaiden]

Don't care if Cole is a demon or a spirit, he shall be my inquisitor's adopted little bro regardless! The dude is too adorable, like a stray kitten you can't help but take in and love. I'm just worried about Rhys showing up...

[Dust]

I don't need a label to trust someone, but I need a truth to help them.

[raging_monkey]

I don't need a label to trust someone, but I need a truth to help them.

true is he wants to help... more than enough to me. If your in the inquisition ots for life

[Fortlowe]

I don't need a label to trust someone, but I need a truth to help them.

Here we are of an accord. The truth is Cole killed people in the lowest, most vulnerable state of mind of their lives. Cole might be pitiful. It might be earnest. It might be lonely, sad, traumatized (still don't understand how that works, but okay), and naive. But it killed innocent people that might have lived full and happy lives had it not taken advantage of their darkest hour.

[Frogtoad51]

I hope Cole has a side quest with Rhys and Evangeline.