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#5201
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I'll agree with that.  Worst case of hat-head ever.  I think it's because they had to make the hair so it doesn't clip through helmets, since with hide helmets, the hair is on whether the helmet is visible or not.  It's a shame, though.

 

Love the new thread title.  I am definitely going to be asking Cole at some point about burning turnips and missing cheese.

I’m thinking exactly the same thing, that shaggy long hair is hard to fit in all types of helmets. My only hope is that they made hair physic for Cole, I saw Sera’s flying hair in the new trailer, it’s so amazing.

 

Did anyone else notice in that clip of the Inquisitor talking to Cole how much taller than him she looks? So how old do you think the real Cole was? 14? 15?

I'm sure this has probably been asked before but I'm not reading this whole thread.

I think his body model is still the same one, he is a little bit taller than female inquisitor, the short height is just a classic optic illusion of angular distance.

 

About his age, here is the description by Eve (in 9:40):

"He’s not that old, perhaps twenty years. No more. "

Since DAI story happens after the year 9:42 (last flight), his physical appearance in DAI is probably 22+

However, depending on your perspective, he could also be "the oldest" companion in your team.  :D


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Demon or no I have decided that I want to adopt him  :)


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We all do
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Did Cole steal those daggers to 'keep safe' in a barrel or is he making some 'Lost and Found' barrel for misplaced daggers?



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Quick image I put together using assets from the DAI poster competition:

 

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#5206
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We all do

Well… I’m basically a kid too, parenting stuff really makes me nervous XD. But I still like him cuz he is such a deep character. I believe his existence might be the KEY of solution for some mass problem… idk, I’m also secretly worry about the possibility that they may force us to sacrifice him, like Legion. If that’s true, I will probably go with the style of The Last of Us you know.

 

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Well… I’m basically a kid too, parenting stuff really makes me nervous XD. But I still like him cuz he is such a deep character. I believe his existence might be the KEY of solution for some mass problem… idk, I’m also secretly worry about the possibility that they may force us to sacrifice him, like Legion. If that’s true, I will probably go with the style of The Last of Us you know.
 
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i was refering to bro/sister adoption personally and yeah same

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"his existence may be the key solution for some sort of mass problem". I have a theory that cole can cure the tranquil.
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Whenever I see a picture of Joel I always think "So that's what Garret Hawke did after DA2."


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like everyone else i just want to make cole feel better and hopefully see a smile

and i want to see if there is a hug option incase if we do interact with him will he have ptsd moment =[ from his past

 

like in questions your able to ask him along the way and helping him feel better

 

 

btw i never read asunder but found out from tumblr on what david gaider said.

 

probably like everyone else before we knew anything about coles past or the reaction to his look from what i saw was.....pretty boy romancable?.....

 

deep regret from my first reaction since finding out his father was abusive and how cole was mentally a minor and how i then thought oki he needs either a good motherly friend figure or father who can help him feel better, because i get a hint he still is hurting from his past experience and is a spirit in need of someone to understand him.

 

 

that is all.


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deep regret from my first reaction since finding out his father was abusive and how cole was mentally a minor

 

He is 20+ in DA:I, no need to feel bad. Everyone wants to hug Cole. Asunder was VERY sad but also a good read, you should pick up a copy and read it! 


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The story of what happened to Cole when he was revealed to be a mage and what he ended up doing to keep himself and his sister safe is just... Just horrifying. 

 

There's something especially horrific about the desperation of young children, which is what Cole was at the time, and what they do to stay safe. The past that boy came from was enough to make me vomit. 


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The story of what happened to Cole when he was revealed to be a mage and what he ended up doing to keep himself and his sister safe is just... Just horrifying.  There's something especially horrific about the desperation of young children, which is what Cole was at the time, and what they do to stay safe. The past that boy came from was enough to make me vomit.

its good writing if it can emvoke x emotions

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like everyone else i just want to make cole feel better and hopefully see a smile

and i want to see if there is a hug option incase if we do interact with him will he have ptsd moment =[ from his past

 

like in questions your able to ask him along the way and helping him feel better

 

 

btw i never read asunder but found out from tumblr on what david gaider said.

 

probably like everyone else before we knew anything about coles past or the reaction to his look from what i saw was.....pretty boy romancable?.....

 

deep regret from my first reaction since finding out his father was abusive and how cole was mentally a minor and how i then thought oki he needs either a good motherly friend figure or father who can help him feel better, because i get a hint he still is hurting from his past experience and is a spirit in need of someone to understand him.

 

 

that is all.

 

My first reaction to Cole is, who is this 21st century rock band singer? Then I was almost immediately related him to Judas and started to be wary of him.

Oh, how stupid I was. Deeply regret for my first reaction +100.

 

Anyway, Asunder is a remarkable piece, David clearly understand the war between dark and light, between sweetness and bitterness, it makes Cole so memorable. Personally, I might love the book more than the game.

 

btw, he’s mentally a child is just a common misrepresentation. You see, romance relationship requires certain degree of social maturity to healthily consent and healthily maintain,  sometimes you gain, sometimes you loss, which I don’t think Cole can get it well. Besides, his existence is quite unstable for the moment, a helpless love could be too personal and too dangerous for him. So I believe what he needs is not sexual relationship, is not even affectionate parents, what he needs is a wise and farsighted friend to guide him, or a kind brother/sister to understand and support him, and my inquisitor will try his/her best to give him both.  :)


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"his existence may be the key solution for some sort of mass problem". I have a theory that cole can cure the tranquil.

What is the theory! bring it on Solas!


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I know this is probably late...but I loved the reference in the twitch stream on the Skyhold and what Cole was up to...and, its also interesting to see that his ability is still intact.  Makes me wonder if certain members of the party can't see him, and if others can, and what the deal is.  I imagine the Inquisitor at least can...but...the others seem pretty up in the air.



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"his existence may be the key solution for some sort of mass problem". I have a theory that cole can cure the tranquil.

Um you know they already have a peaceful cure for tranquilism which doesn't actually involve him but e may have a hand in helping do that for some kind of locality/friendship quest



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What is the theory! bring it on Solas!

If being near a mage bonded to a Fade spirit can temporarily restore a Tranquil.. and if a spirit or demon were to reach across the Veil and touch a Tranquil's mind and they're cured.. what happens if Cole (who is a Fade creature of some kind) were to touch the mind of a Tranquil? He's most likely a spirit or a demon after all. Or does the curing touch of the spirit or demon have to be done from across the Veil, so it wouldn't work if Cole touched a Tranquil's mind because he's on our side of the Veil? I wonder if Cole were to reach out and touch a Tranquil's mind if they would be cured. 0:

 

Swaggerjking, I know they already have a cure (see above paragraph). My point is that it involves a spirit or demon touching the mind of a Tranquil, and Cole is most likely a spirit or a demon.. 

 

And that was how Cole got a job.



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And that was how Cole got a job.

 

Gainful employment.


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typing out my theory made something not on the subject of Cole (sorry) come to mind - if being near a mage bonded to a Fade spirit can temporarily restore a Tranquil (Anders/Justice with Karl), how didn't Wynne, who is bonded to the spirit of Faith and spent a lot of time in the Fereldan Circle Tower, which has a bunch of Tranquil, set it off every time she went near one?!


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typing out my theory made something not on the subject of Cole (sorry) come to mind - if being near a mage bonded to a Fade spirit can temporarily restore a Tranquil (Anders/Justice with Karl), how didn't Wynne, who is bonded to the spirit of Faith and spent a lot of time in the Fereldan Circle Tower, which has a bunch of Tranquil, set it off every time she went near one?!

 

Probably a plot hole, to be honest. Or Wynne's Spirit of Faith just kinda sucks.

 

I haven't read Asunder, but maybe the fact that Wynne is basically undead has an effect? As in, the Spirit's power is taken up keeping her alive and thus can't extend as much into the surroundings?


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It occurs to me that she wasn't actually possessed until right before Broken Circle. Still, can't you recruit her then you can take her to meet the Tranquil Owain and nothing happens..

 

maybe a plot hole or a difference in the nature of Wynne's and Anders' possessions.



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It occurs to me that she wasn't actually possessed until right before Broken Circle. Still, can't you recruit her then you can take her to meet the Tranquil Owain and nothing happens..

 

maybe a plot hole or a difference in the nature of Wynne's and Anders' possessions.

 

She gets possessed shortly before you meet her. That said, Karl is only de-tranquilled when Anders unleashes Justice's power. Wynne only does that once you unlock her unique ability, which is obviously post-Broken Circle.


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typing out my theory made something not on the subject of Cole (sorry) come to mind - if being near a mage bonded to a Fade spirit can temporarily restore a Tranquil (Anders/Justice with Karl), how didn't Wynne, who is bonded to the spirit of Faith and spent a lot of time in the Fereldan Circle Tower, which has a bunch of Tranquil, set it off every time she went near one?!

Personally I thought that Wynne's spirit was still in the Fade, but sort of used her as a conduit. Meanwhile Justice and Cole are completely outside of the Fade. So perhaps Wynne's spirit's ability to interact with the world is limited by that factor?

 

Come to think of it, Justice didn't have any effect on Tranquil when Anders was in complete control. It was only when the spirit took hold.


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I’m also secretly worry about the possibility that they may force us to sacrifice him, like Legion.

 

.... That would be bad. Cause then Thedas would/could go to hell.

If I'm guessing Cole's character right in-game, then my first character will see him as a very close friend and consider him family. No one touches or messes with her family. No. one.

She'd even tell the romance I think she'll be going for where to shove it if such a suggestion comes up - by anyone unless Cole himself suggests it. And even then she'll do her best to make him reconsider.


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