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Cole discussion, speculation, and fan thread: "How do you know?"


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#5276
Diefenbaker

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I didn't like Cole much in Asunder. I felt sorry for him, but I just couldn't like him, with all that serial killing he did. And I was super wary when he was announced as a companion--I was afraid he'd be Anders crossed with Fenris. Unlikeable, whiny, and angsty.

 

But now, after reading the interview with his writer, I have to say I'm much more fond of him now. That line about how it doesn't matter that people won't remember him helping, just that he did help, particularly struck a chord in me--it's very mature. It's so nice to see how he's grown up, and I'm looking forward to him joining my party now. He sort of makes me think of Angel from Angel crossed with Merrill.

 

And that hat is simultaneously hideous and cute :3

 

With the whole serial killer thing... He started off seemingly ruthless until it's explained how he sought out people who wanted to die anyway, and he still talked to them first to make sure. The first victim I believe knew she wanted to die, but it was left unexplored as we didn't know that much about Cole yet. I think the idea was Cole could feel that it was the right choice and she put up no resistance.

 

The girl at Adamant Tower didn't want to die despite what she'd been through so he let her go after asking.

 

As for Pharamond, Cole learned from Rhys that all this killing wasn't the right thing to do because of the accusations flying around. So he left him too despite Pharamond's protests.

 

As you stated, Cole's character is meant to focus on him helping people. This power of 'seeking out' people in pain is just a part of that.

 

 

S*** I'm really bad at explaining things, but that was meant to be for the benefit of anyone who's concerned with Cole's killings. In case anyone gets the wrong idea, I'm certainly not excusing the killings or trying to explain them away, I just want to offer my interpretation of them.


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#5277
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If possible, I would really like to try Albus Dumbledore from Harry Potter series' ideal: what matters is who he is now, not what he is.

 

But it might be really difficult owning to Thedas' demon-possess-mages stuffs. We'll see, it'll be cruel to judge him simply because of what he is. He did murder, it was not tolerable, but so as many people. Loyalty is something fearsome and it can be dangerous.

 

I don't know what to do with him. On one side I was like "Here Cole have some cookies and warm milk and hugs" on the other side it's "oh my, I'm walking on dangerous zone...".



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His past is not justifiable, even with a partially good intention and a gentle way, even who he killed had long lost hope and death is not always the worst especially in Thedas.

 

I can’t forgive him for what he did, but the only thing I can do is to understand. Cole is the ultimate social outcast, in the most extreme psychologic condition that should only lead to perversion and destruction.

 

I was going to understand even if he wanted to destroy the world, thereby I won’t blame him and those who would, this is not something easy to comprehend after all. But the fact I believe most people would see is that he changed. His fate pushed him to grasp the essence of true existence and the meaning of life, to find the inner peace and self-identity, not external validation and delusional dreams, it’s not just mature, it’s wise and even sagacious. I don’t know what made him changed and so determined to seek the light, but I do believe that the steps of a man who crawled through the darkness are firmer and steadier than the steps of whom born in sunshine and flowers.

 

I know he is wearing an unpleasant face, carried a sin and many accusations, people do have their reasons to be wary of him, to detest him, but coming up with a story that we already predicted is a complete waste, it’s not acceptable and clearly not Bioware.



#5279
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There's a little banter between Blackwall and Cole at about 8:39 in here.

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I think only Vivienne and Sera will have some problems with Cole.

 

Everyone else seem to get along just fine.



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Yeah. Both Blackwall and Iron Bull seem to have a 'He's kinda weird but he's alright.' kinda view on him, while Solas appears to be his BFF. Wonder what Dorian, Cass and Varric will think of him.

#5282
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Yeah. Both Blackwall and Iron Bull seem to have a 'He's kinda weird but he's alright.' kinda view on him, while Solas appears to be his BFF. Wonder what Dorian, Cass and Varric will think of him.

 

Wasn't the cass solas cole team dubbed "team thoughtful philosophical discussion" or something? I'm guessing she more sees him as interesting, maybe thinking about how the fade and spirits work with her religion.



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Yeah. Both Blackwall and Iron Bull seem to have a 'He's kinda weird but he's alright.' kinda view on him, while Solas appears to be his BFF. Wonder what Dorian, Cass and Varric will think of him.

 

Iron Bull actually wants to take him out and get him laid :P


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#5284
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I finally know what Cole is. :D
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Dragon Age Inquisition Gameplay

 

 

More banter in this one. (I said I was going on media blackout but I am apparently so very weak and can't resist.)


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I dunno. If I were in a situation where I genuinely wanted to die and things wouldn't get better, I'd prefer Cole's early kinda help.

 

His new brand of stuff is like: "It's gonna be okay, it'll get better!" and I dunno, that stuff just doesn't fix very real problems.

 

I can't fault him for committing mercy killings. I can't say I wouldn't do the same.


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raging_monkey

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Huh. As far as I can tell, nobody's made a Cole Train reference...
Woo?

i did like pages back lol

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So Cole prefers man? :wub:

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I dunno. If I were in a situation where I genuinely wanted to die and things wouldn't get better, I'd prefer Cole's early kinda help.

 

His new brand of stuff is like: "It's gonna be okay, it'll get better!" and I dunno, that stuff just doesn't fix very real problems.

 

I can't fault him for committing mercy killings. I can't say I wouldn't do the same.

Can something which is not virtuous ever truly be justified? The answer is no for me. However if I’m going to adopt my real life ethical judgment to all the fictional stories, there won’t have many character left for me to enjoy. Fictions like to push the limit, to open our minds, but they're for art, not for real.  :P

 

 

 
 

More banter in this one. (I said I was going on media blackout but I am apparently so very weak and can't resist.)

 

Even you Solas? Even you. 

Plz stop you crazy diamonds!



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Wasn't the cass solas cole team dubbed "team thoughtful philosophical discussion" or something? I'm guessing she more sees him as interesting, maybe thinking about how the fade and spirits work with her religion.

team mutually respectful moral and theological debate aka My Babies


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#5291
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So Cole prefers man? :wub:


Hah, I'd be ok with this. My little fade bro can love whomever he wants. If he wanted of course.

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So Cole prefers man? :wub:

 

I'm taking that to mean "just no interest, period."


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#5293
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So Cole prefers man? :wub:

 

Means he doesn't have any interest period


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#5294
heretica

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I'm taking that to mean "just no interest, period."

 

 

Means he doesn't have any interest period

 

 

That's because he hasn't met my Inquisitor...

 

...YET!

 

 

Lol, jk. I know Cole is not just interested in any of that.



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More banter in this one. (I said I was going on media blackout but I am apparently so very weak and can't resist.)

 

 

"Hey Cole, say something interesting."

"Something interesting." 

 

lol'd.


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#5296
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This is how we meet him? Judging by the cloth? Darkspawn?

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#5297
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I know that he's just killed someone right in front of me, but I still can't take him seriously with that hat.


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#5298
Eudaemonium

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Cole's hat is awesome and anyone that thinks differently is simply wrong.


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#5299
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Boooooooo! Hisssss!

 

:P


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#5300
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The hat is clearly Cole's way to compensate for the fact that people keep forgetting him. They might not remember him but they will always remember the ambulatory hat.


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