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Cole discussion, speculation, and fan thread: "How do you know?"


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#5426
Master Warder Z_

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Of course. Exactly why I don't see Cole as one way or the other. 

 

Dangerous demon seems pretty apt until more information is gained.



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Cole is not a demon. He is a Revenant. Please use the correct terminology. 



#5428
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Cole is not a demon. He is a Revenant. Please use the correct terminology. 

 

A Revenant is what exactly?



#5429
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When a higher demon possesses a corpse. Though since Cole is a mage, an Arcane Horror is much more precise. 



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When a higher demon possesses a corpse. Though since Cole is a mage, an Arcane Horror is much more precise. 

 

Apparently there is no physical body at all, that got 'gotten rid of.' Cole is just the way the demon/spirit chooses to manifest. Though don't quote me on that, I got it from a secondhand source.



#5431
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When a higher demon possesses a corpse. Though since Cole is a mage, an Arcane Horror is much more precise.

The boy's corpse was destroyed. So he's neither.

#5432
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I would say Lambert is more dangerous than any demon, people in place of power addicted to a substance which is confirmed to cause paranoia, obsession and dementia are at least equally dangerous if not more. I find it funny that Templars would use a substance which is originated in the fade.

 

Also with all your Chantry fanaticism you seem to ignore one bit which does not benefit your agenda, the chantry openly and clearly sees demons and spirits with a firm difference. Cole is a spirit as its said on Dragon age Inquisition official website. Direct quote "He is a spirit, impossibly caught between the immaterial realm of the Fade and the confusing realities of our physical world"
 
 


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#5433
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Away from Cole demon/revenant/w.e do you think Cole will mind being an archer? Cause I kinda really want to play dual wield AND I want Cole in my party AND I want to have archery because I love archery AND I don't like Varric or Sera. 



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The boy's corpse was destroyed. So he's neither.

Strong words. The new body had to come from somewhere. 



#5435
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Away from Cole demon/revenant/w.e do you think Cole will mind being an archer? Cause I kinda really want to play dual wield AND I want Cole in my party AND I want to have archery because I love archery AND I don't like Varric or Sera.


You could do it, yeah, but living in the tower all that time I'm not sure he'd have ever touched a bow in his life. Might be a bit odd. :S

#5436
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I would say Lambert is more dangerous than any demon

 

Then we would have vastly different opinions on "dangerous" considering that a codex stated if a greater pride demon made its way into the waking world it could threaten the entire planet.

 

Lord Lambert is simply a human.

 

albeit a supremely skilled one.



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Making Cole an Archer would feel just as weird as letting Sera dual wield :P



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If Cole is a strong enough spirit he can embody himself physically in the waking world like pride and desire demons. I don't see why he can't change his form to be like human Cole. This is one of main reason I think Cole is a spirit of hope because he has to be pretty strong to do things he does in asunder.



#5439
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Strong words. The new body had to come from somewhere.


I think he's using his own body and taking the form of Cole. Shapeshifting, most likely.

#5440
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Cole is a spirit 

 

Weekes said something different; i'll take an author quote over something that was likely tossed up by a forum admin.

 

He said he was somewhere on the spectrum of spirit/demon, he said he wanted to be a spirit, that would infer at least from the way it was stated.

 

Cole is no spirit.



#5441
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Then we would have vastly different opinions on "dangerous" considering that a codex stated if a greater pride demon made its way into the waking world it could threaten the entire planet.

 

Lord Lambert is simply a human.

 

albeit a supremely skilled one.

 

I still think Templar leaders shouldn't be addicted to Lyrium because while I don't doubt these skills you are talking about, I think he was seriously lacking in the brain department. Templars not taking Lyrium at all from the beginning would be much better leaders.

 

Lambert's danger is his stupidity boosted by Lyrium addiction.


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#5442
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Weekes said something different; i'll take an author quote over something that was likely tossed up by a forum admin.

 

He said he was somewhere on the spectrum of spirit/demon, he said he wanted to be a spirit, that would infer at least from the way it was stated.

 

Cole is no spirit.

 

So in other words he said its debatable. By claiming he is no spirit you are discrediting the very person you are basing your argument upon. Also no, I don't see why there would be inaccurate information on bloody official website while everything else is correct.



#5443
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So in other words he said its debatable. 

 

Hardly.

 

From the very way it was phrased it was made out to indicate that.



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* smokes cig* it was a peaceful thread
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#5445
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* smokes cig* it was a peaceful thread

 

*Shrugs*

 

It was also filled with no division, when you have every one agreeing with each other of course it will be "peaceful".

 

That said you groaning about differing opinions is sort of humorous, i thought you enjoyed listening to those.



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Perhaps I should make a intervention Cole chibi or something....


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I don't think calling him a spirit is wrong. Justice says that demons are spirits that have been perverted through overwhelming desires. With that in mind, demons are just a term to differentiate between I corrupted spirits and corrupted spirits.

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Hardly.

 

From the very way it was phrased it was made out to indicate that.

 

Then that depends on what you consider a demon. Lets say, as a theory, after the breaches all spirits of Justice considered Templars guilty and attacked them on sight. Would that make them all demons? Not really, a spirit cannot function on the waking world and spirits of Justice are better examples of how they can't really function because they are a bit more extreme than others.

 

Comparing Cole to an entity like Audacity makes me cringe and punch the walls. Whatever audacity is Cole is NOT from that kind.



#5449
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*Shrugs*
 
It was also filled with no division, when you have every one agreeing with each other of course it will be "peaceful".
 
That said you groaning about differing opinions is sort of humorous, i thought you enjoyed listening to those.

i was being a wiseass lol. You know me "love to hear opinions but is a poor rhetorician" lol

Really put disclaimers in my posts lol

#5450
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I think he's using his own body and taking the form of Cole. Shapeshifting, most likely.

He would still need a body to exist before the Breach happened.