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[Defne]

But are not mortal, still only spirits.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

But are not mortal, still only spirits.

They are mortal since they can die. They are just ageless. 

[Defne]

They are not humans, elves, dwarves or whatever, they are like souls. The body is not alive.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

They are not humans, elves, dwarves or whatever, they are like souls. The body is not alive.

Yea, it is a spirit that took the form of a human young man. As for not being alive it depends on your definition of the word. I see him as alive just like I see AIs in science fiction as alive. 

[Addai]

So it seems in the main choice...

Spoiler

Most people prefer to make him more human. I think both choices are equally valid and moving. He really is both. However, I believe Varric is wrong. He didn't come into the world to become a person. That makes it sound like he's a mermaid wanting to be a human- he's not. His gift of empathy can lead him in that direction but it's not the whole truth. Ultimately I wanted to let him be able to do what he can uniquely do.

 

Both Cole and Solas were a delight in this game. Truly philosophical companions and yet with plenty of pathos. The other Bioware character that they remind me of is Mordin.

[Defne]

He is alive, not like a spirit.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Spoiler

I make him more like a spirit myself. He seems so happy going around and making people feel better.

 

 

He is alive, not like a spirit.

What is the difference?

[Kisari]

I think he's possessed.. somehow, soul, body, whatever, only logical explanation, if not divine or so.

Uhh well I don't know what to tell you if you refuse to believe what the game states.

Cole is not possessing anything. We might not know the details because the only stuff we know on the Fade is what the people in the game world know, but that doesn't mean it isn't true just because we can't understand it.

 

 

So it seems in the main choice...

Spoiler

I made Cole into a spirit and he seemed really happy... Until he started erasing his own memories. I understand he wanted to be free of the burden Real!Cole's memories had on him, so he can return to the Fade. But it's just too sad to me. If in the end, that's what makes him happy though... that's what matters more. He just seems equally happy either route, so I think in my perfect play through I'll make him more human.

[Defne]

No, Solas says it, but he has no explanation. It is not understandable. I hope BW explains it.

[Kisari]

No, Solas says it, but he has no explanation. It is not understandable. I hope BW explains it.

Well considering what Solas is I'm inclined to believe him.

Tweet the devs and hope they answer because otherwise I'm pretty sure Solas' is the explanation we're getting.

[Defne]

I know and he has no explanation.. certainly

[Master Warder Z_]

Lambert's explanation still seems correct.

Hell Cole even admits he was right.

[BloodKaiden]

Lol, so I just took Cole to Crestwood where he got scolded by a spirit of Command!

Spirit: Ugh, Compassion. DID I ASK FOR YOUR NAME?!

Cole: ...Sorry.

[Cespar]

Varric is helping Cole come up with better knock knock jokes in banter  . I just want to keep Cole around forever  .

[BloodKaiden]

I think I just got the best banter between Cass and Cole, it was so sweet.

Spoiler

Cassandra: Cole, I found a locket on my pillow earlier...

Cole: It was Anthony's.

Cassandra: it was my grandmother's, actually, but it had Anthony's portrait inside. I thought I'd lost it.

Cole: You did lost it. I had to fight a rat for it.

Cassandra: Oh? Thank you.

Cole: Ah, he wasn't a very big rat.

[Master Warder Z_]

Lol, so I just took Cole to Crestwood where he got scolded by a spirit of Command!

Spirit: Ugh, Compassion. DID I ASK FOR YOUR NAME?!

Cole: ...Sorry.

I found that scene humorous.

[Dust]

I know and he has no explanation.. certainly

Spoiler

I still don’t know how it works, of course I’m glad that it works, but they didn’t give us a logical explanation on how and that mystery keeps me worried. Solas knows the natural of spirit and he must encountered many in centuries, but he still have no solid conclusion about how he became like this, he just said that Cole is unique. Given to what Solas is, his confusion made things even more peculiar. He dose gave us a pretty vague and incomplete explanation, but from what we know, compassion is not rare, not as rare as justice and faith and certainly not the most powerful one. But Cole is powerful, just think about even an elven god like Flemeth can’t make herself real without possessing a woman, but Cole can make himself a fully human without possessing anything? It can be a way of salvation or broke the balance of the world, but it dose hinted a latent issue that has never been heavily discussed before.

I don’t think it’s a story bug though, if it is, they shouldn’t put Cole in the game and let more people question about it. We know that they had a plan for Solas, would they purposely left it unravelled because they had a plan for Cole too? Just my guesses, hoping everything ends well.

[raging_monkey]

I found that scene humorous.

as did i and i like cole lol

[Tamyn]

Talk to Cole enough when his dialogue is exhausted and he starts making references to things like Soylent Green and Jade Empire.

[Exaltation]

Lol, so I just took Cole to Crestwood where he got scolded by a spirit of Command!

Spirit: Ugh, Compassion. DID I ASK FOR YOUR NAME?!

Cole: ...Sorry.

It is SO dead in my playthrough.

[Solas]

Can anyone tell me where the turnip ambient dialogue is? I can't remember.

 

Maybe we should compile a list of where to get them and put it in the OP or something, people seem to ask that question a lot xD

[Addai]

It is SO dead in my playthrough.

OMG why? She's hilarious. And just wants to go home where things make sense.

[Faerah]

Can anyone tell me where the turnip ambient dialogue is? I can't remember.

 

Maybe we should compile a list of where to get them and put it in the OP or something, people seem to ask that question a lot xD

No one has really replied with a list about it yet, otherwise I would put it in the OP. And I don't know myself. The turnip one was somewhere where you go often though I think. It was a guy complaining about the smell if I remember right but I don't remember exactly where it was. Maybe right in the throne room or something? I got impatient and finished the story on my first playthough and decided to restart rather than finish completionisting the first. I'll try to record where and what they say exactly for whichever ones I can refind. I never did find the second thing on my first playthough, I hope it's not bugged on PC or something. 

 

Edit: The one I'm missing I think should be the loaves of bread on the battlements but I'm not entirely sure. I ran all over the place and couldn't figure out where it triggered.

[Kisari]

I *think* the first turnip dialogue is in the throne room, and then the second one that lets you confront Cole about it is around where Cassandra stands. I *think*.

Cheese and mint in the kitchen, second one for it is in the tavern at the front of the bar.

Daggers up near a group of people outside of Cullen's office, second one down by the gate near the barn.

Plums in the tavern, second one down where the infirmary tents are. I think.

Can't for the life of me find the bread on the battlements one.

Not sure if the others are 100% correct but they should be somewhere around those areas.

[Faerah]

I *think* the first turnip dialogue is in the throne room, and then the second one that lets you confront Cole about it is around where Cassandra stands. I *think*.

Cheese and mint in the kitchen, second one for it is in the tavern at the front of the bar.

Daggers up near a group of people outside of Cullen's office, second one down by the gate near the barn.

Plums in the tavern, second one down where the infirmary tents are. I think.

Can't for the life of me find the bread on the battlements one.

Not sure if the others are 100% correct but they should be somewhere around those areas.

I'm about to get Cole again in this new playthough. I'll double check these while I'm at it.