Thanks, Gaesesagai. That reassures me a bit. Does more-spirit-like Cole still show up in the Wicked Grace scene I've heard so much enthusiasm about? I want to see that scene, and him in it.
@Dave of Canada --
Grey Warden storyline: Yes, definitely! It sets up his personal quest VERY poignantly, and he has a bit of extra dialog at places, too.
Orlesian Ball: No idea yet, that is my next stop. After some sidequests.
Thanks, Gaesesagai. That reassures me a bit. Does more-spirit-like Cole still show up in the Wicked Grace scene I've heard so much enthusiasm about? I want to see that scene, and him in it.
I got that scene long before I did Cole's quest so not sure. I would guess yes, since he doesn't suddenly start to push people away once he becomes more spirit like, so there would be no reason not to be at the game, but not sure.
Something we said on the Solas thread got me thinking... Cole will use some of the same combat calls as the Inquisitor, and I believe he's the only companion who does. It makes me wonder if he's mimicking him/her in order to learn to be "real." 
Thanks, Gaesesagai. That reassures me a bit. Does more-spirit-like Cole still show up in the Wicked Grace scene I've heard so much enthusiasm about? I want to see that scene, and him in it.
In my playthrough Cole became more spirit-like, and he still showed up for the Wicked Grace game. He has a couple of pretty funny comments in it.
Hey guys, a question. Don't know if it's been asked but-
And I came here just to state how much I love this character. He's so precious 
I should take a break from the game and start drawing fan arts of him already
As often as Cole speaks so highly of nugs, why haven't any of you drawn him playing with Shmooples?
Hello, Cole lovers!
I don't think I've ever posted here before, but I've observed a certain phenomenon with our friendly spirit: some people are squicked by his 'mind reading' and call him all sorts of colorful names. He's a spirit so hearing people's thoughts is just what he does. Like a dog sniffing your crotch, if you will. That's just how he works. (sorry if the comparison upsets anyone. I was trying to think of something people find upsetting, but is really harmless. That's the best I could come up with.)
Anyway, that makes me wonder: Cole wants to heal people's pain. What if he caused it accidentally? Say, he senses pain in someone, he goes to help and the person freaks out because he is 'invading their mind' and he might 'use it against them' or something like that. Sure, Cole would make them forget about him, but how would he feel? He would essentially be unable to help that person because his intervention makes it worse. He would be hearing their pain constantly and powerless to heal it.
What do you think?
I guess Spirit Cole would make the person forget his attempt and himself so as to save himself from the pain of failure. Then maybe he would try to get that person to feel better in another way.
Human Cole would remember what he did wrong, learn from it, and either attempt to help that person in another way or leave the person be and use the experience to better help the next person.
Also, your questing reminds me of this: http://phemiec.tumbl...-being-a-person
So after some thought, I definitely settled on making him more of a spirit because that preserves more of what I've come to love about the character. The "feel and forgive the killer" resolution is extremely touching, both voice actors really knock it out of the park there -- especially in stark contrast to Cole's hurt and rage just moments earlier.
I think my initial feeling of "he's lost something either way" is deliberate because it's the point -- he isn't quite the same being afterwards, but the old self was hurt, so while there's some wistfulness (especially from the companion we don't side with) to the change, it's a good and necessary change no matter the direction. The following conversation and the Val Royeaux cutscene show his gratitude and happiness, and that is all that matters.
@Basement Cat: I think that is part of what his more-a-spirit-self refers to when he speaks of "washing clean" and the more-human-self calls "sticking" -- he affects others but they affect him in turn, too. Even when he encourages a change for the better in someone or gives them the easiest possible death, there's a LOT of pain in the world, and he hears and feels and shares so much that he probably needs a self-defense mechanism to bear it all. Otherwise he'd be sliding back towards despair (that word on his "gravestone" foreshadows his quest perfectly). More-spirit Cole has that in being able to make himself forget, more-human Cole needs to learn it (which will likely a more mortal version of forgetting) though he may also need it less since he says he has more of a choice of what he hears. As for the extra burden of having caused distress -- I think it'd hit all three versions of him hard, but thankfully both the more-human and the more-spirit Cole have better odds against letting it happen. The former will learn to read and understand more in the way mortals do, the latter's perceptiveness and empathy are SO through the roof that he is more confident about finding the right approach.
I think that when you took him into the Inquisition - you've already made the best for him, because in the Inquisition and by backing up the Inquisitor (if he/she is not a jerk) he feels that he helps people already. He doesn't have anywhere else to go to - he says that himself. So to the point - making him more human or more spirit-like depends on you . I think this is the only personal quest for a party member, that leads to a well-balanced ending either way. It all depends on the player's opinion and maybe moral position. I can't say which way Cole is more happy, I can say that I'm happier with him being more spirit. He becomes something better , something more and yes - in a way he is frightened for what is going to happen or what he can do now, but the unknown scares everybody. And this is not a bad fear - it's the fear of the unknown future, will he do the best he could. If the Inquizitor help him, he will succeed.
If he frustrates someone when interacting with them, talking about their pain and sorrow - he makes them forget and tries again to make it the right way and make it better. I don't think he makes himself forget, because the memory of helping in the end itself makes him happy.
The great thing about him is that no one can be sure. I just love that character. He is amazing !
Agreed, the fact that Cole is so unique and hard to slap a label on is part of why I like him.
I found (hopefully) all the Bread on the Battlement dialogue.
The first part is in the kitchen, the second at the surgeon tents.
I haven't found a third but I'm taking my time exploring to try and see if there is one. It seems likely I kept missing the bread dialogue as I sped through the game every time and getting all of the other dialogue in the kitchen takes priority so I wasn't seeing that one.
I still wonder if the NPCs who give you the "Cole oddities" ambient dialogue only ever show up once once you trigger each previous step in their chain -- and if you miss them that one time, you're out of luck. Has anyone managed to find them later in the game?
He looks...bigger than I imagined him.
That's what she said? I couldn't resist :/
Hey guys, a question. Don't know if it's been asked but-
Spoiler
Huuuh..I thought he was saying something
So I read a DA wiki summary of Asunder yesterday and now I'm wondering -- could Leliana know about Cole? I can't imagine the Left Hand would not have put her formidable mind and resources to work on figuring out what really happened during this rather crucial time. If she hasn't puzzled it out by the time Cole joins up and his nature is revealed, wouldn't she most likely put two and two together at that point? It's curious that we can't talk to her about it -- and even more curious that we can't get our all-knowing Spymaster's opinion on our team at all.
Sorry for changing the subject here - I don't know if anybody found out why actually Cole is doing the strange things he does. I'm sorry if I'm repeating s.o.' thoughts but I just figure it out in my second pt. I didn't stop Cole of doing his strange things and found out that everything he does connects to future events that are going to happen around Skyhold.
It was little precious pleasure to see this. If you figure out why he was doing these things - he is goin to Slightly Approve.
Sorry for changing the subject here - I don't know if anybody found out why actually Cole is doing the strange things he does. I'm sorry if I'm repeating s.o.' thoughts but I just figure it out in my second pt. I didn't stop Cole of doing his strange things and found out that everything he does connects to future events that are going to happen around Skyhold.
SpoilerIt was little precious pleasure to see this. If you figure out why he was doing these things - he is goin to Slightly Approve.
I have them all minus the bread and the daggers. They are both supposed to trigger in the same area on the second part; however, I feel like it is bugged. The dialogue never pops up around the people :/
I have them all minus the bread and the daggers. They are both supposed to trigger in the same area on the second part; however, I feel like it is bugged. The dialogue never pops up around the people :/
I've heard about the bread but I forgot what was the meaning of it. 
And regarding the daggers - you can hear two women talking about a fight that happened last night between two soldiers - it triggered for me infront of the main gate (just before the shops and after the healer station). I waited a while before it triggered, may be it takes time for them to argue. I walked all corners of Skyhold and gave up waiting for the closure of this thing and then all out of nowhere I was coming back from talking with Blackwall and heard it. 
Human Cole for me everytime , he just seems happier and that moment when he realized how foolish he was for believing some of the things he did before the change then proceeded to laugh at himself just solidified my belief that that version of Cole is the better one.
I've heard about the bread but I forgot what was the meaning of it.
And regarding the daggers - you can hear two women talking about a fight that happened last night between two soldiers - it triggered for me infront of the main gate (just before the shops and after the healer station). I waited a while before it triggered, may be it takes time for them to argue. I walked all corners of Skyhold and gave up waiting for the closure of this thing and then all out of nowhere I was coming back from talking with Blackwall and heard it.
Thanks 
I will be patient and hope it resolves eventually ^^ The bread story is actually quite touching.
For those who wondered what Cole says when you get all the little mini help dialogues from him ( I wondered myself)
The more I learn about Cole the more I want the option to hug him...in a platonic way. (a hug option for others would be great too, I only got to hug Varric so far)
(it is quiet in this topic, isn't it?)
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