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I don't believe Cole would be a traitor. Of all the characters in Asunder, Cole seems to be the least treachorous. Did I write this word correctly?..

Close. It's treacherous, not treachorous. Still, only one letter off. 



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Pretty sure Cole's VA has already been chosen and recording for a long time. Assuming these tweets are about him and they're 7+ months old:

 

 

The last one is the reason I think it might be Cole's VA. "On my own" and Les Miserables seems pretty appropriate for him.

These tweets make me so curious. Although technically we don't know who the last character Gaider is writing is, yes? Cole, Cassandra and...? Cause he mentioned he was writing 3 characters and 2 romances I think. Although again Cole hasn't been officially confirmed.

"how dare he say that?!" Hmmm... Considering Morrigan's... Morriganness didn't set me aflame I doubt anything else could haha. I wonder though, assuming he is talking about Cole, and considering how murder knife trigger happy people are if it's going to likely lots of people will knife him. I know how many people wanted Morrigan dead, and how many people didn't even give Zevran a chance(my bf didn't even think him to be a companion and I had to tell him to reload and not kill him)... I just wonder how personable he will be right off the bat. Is his past going to be explained to you right away? Or will it be you meet him, get to know him, and find out later? That will be a very major point for people to develop trust with him.



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These tweets make me so curious. Although technically we don't know who the last character Gaider is writing is, yes? Cole, Cassandra and...? Cause he mentioned he was writing 3 characters and 2 romances I think. Although again Cole hasn't been officially confirmed.

Last I heard DG was writing 2 companions, 2 romances, and an unknown amount of npcs. But my info might be outdated, I'm not sure.



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Last I heard DG was writing 2 companions, 2 romances, and an unknown amount of npcs. But my info might be outdated, I'm not sure.

This is also what I'd heard. I never heard a third companion confirmed. 



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I just saw linked in the Twitter thread that it looks like the Adamant Fortress will be featured in DA:I.

 

http://www.dragonage...ress-of-adamant

 

I wonder if Cole will have much to say about it. He may be the only one of the followers that's been there before. I wonder what the state of it is now. Maybe the wardens too it back? 

 

Edit -- Actually, someone in the Twitter thread pointed out that it looks like they're flying Tevinter banners. Maybe this is where the Venatori set up.



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Cole would most likely have an Orlesian accent. My vote is for Gaspard Ulliel. 

Wow. I initially didn't want Cole to have an Orlesian accent but... he sounds incredibly hot.. :wub:



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All I want is a cute innocent sweet romance with this adorable little tragic ghost. Just cute pecks, blushes and acting all adorable and cutesy with a crush. I just want to hug this saddened character so bad. Though I still have it in the back of my head of when he was well a child, Bioware your fault for making him hot. I regret nothing. nothing. *Cough*


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All I want is a cute innocent sweet romance with this adorable little tragic ghost. Just cute pecks, blushes and acting all adorable and cutesy with a crush. I just want to hug this saddened character so bad. Though I still have it in the back of my head of when he was well a child, Bioware your fault for making him hot. I regret nothing. nothing. *Cough*

 

Ew.

 

Its almost as bad as fawning over Anders, post Possession.



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Ew.

 

Its almost as bad as fawning over Anders, post Possession.

Welp this is awkward, uh, nope I got nothing to save myself. All is but the truth.



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  • "This power of "invisibility" is powered by either blood magic (as the codex and wiki states) or a demonic power (as Lambert states)."

 


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All I want is a cute innocent sweet romance with this adorable little tragic ghost. Just cute pecks, blushes and acting all adorable and cutesy with a crush. I just want to hug this saddened character so bad. Though I still have it in the back of my head of when he was well a child, Bioware your fault for making him hot. I regret nothing. nothing. *Cough*

Damn I totally agree with this! They just had to make Cole hot as hell, right!? *sigh*!

 

Oh and regarding the childlike mindset... I have to say, while reading Asunder I really didn't get that from Cole. I just got the whole lost, confused, anxious young man vibe -- which made me adore him and want to be Rhys. Throughout the whole book.

I'd just hold his hand and lead him through fields of roses at sunrise. That is all (:


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Damn I totally agree with this! They just had to make Cole hot as hell, right!? *sigh*!

 

Oh and regarding the childlike mindset... I have to say, while reading Asunder I really didn't get that from Cole. I just got the whole lost, confused, anxious young man vibe -- which made me adore him and want to be Rhys. Throughout the whole book.

I'd just hold his hand and lead him through fields of roses at sunrise. That is all (:

Someone understands!! Look at his wittle pasty ghosty face oooo I just wanna squeeze dem cheeks.

Wait that didn't come out right..Anywho I completely agree, I got that feeling while reading Asunder, I mean hello he knew what was going down, he understands. Right?....right.


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This is also what I'd heard. I never heard a third companion confirmed. 

 

 

Last I heard DG was writing 2 companions, 2 romances, and an unknown amount of npcs. But my info might be outdated, I'm not sure.

You know, I scoured his entire tumblr cause I spent an entire night going through and reading it all... and I thought I read it there... but I can't find a source. So I'm sorry for my... assumptions or misgivings I got from somewhere. Now I'm super confused where I got that idea though. Maybe I shouldn't be reading long paragraphs on white backgrounds at 4 am when I haven't slept for 36 hours. :wacko:



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Err...Anyway, I think Cole shouldn't be foisted upon the PC as a companion, interaction with the bloody demented thing should be up to the PC.

 

Say...I wanted to remove that stupid head of his from his shoulders, and send him back to the fade where he belonged. I should be allowed to do that, i shouldn't be forced to tolerate anyone or anything that attempted to end the awesomeness that is Lambert Van Reeves.



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Someone understands!! Look at his wittle pasty ghosty face oooo I just wanna squeeze dem cheeks.

Wait that didn't come out right..Anywho I completely agree, I got that feeling while reading Asunder, I mean hello he knew what was going down, he understands. Right?....right.

You were talking about his face, right? :whistle: I mean.. damn I can just imagine his cute little face going all rosy after the initial shock at confusion.

I feel so wrong.

Oh and by "he understands", you mean the erm *cough*... yeah.

 

I want him to stand there shifting weight from right to left leg, twiddling his fingers "oh you.. you want to.. kiss me inquisitor..?" - I feel this is escalating quickly and leaving the innocent zone. Just hold my hand Cole, and pick me a flower. There. (:


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Err...Anyway, I think Cole shouldn't be foisted upon the PC as a companion, interaction with the bloody demented thing should be up to the PC.

 

Say...I wanted to remove that stupid head of his from his shoulders, and send him back to the fade where he belonged. I should be allowed to do that, i shouldn't be forced to tolerate anyone or anything that attempted to end the awesomeness that is Lambert Van Reeves.

Boo! :P



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All I want is a cute innocent sweet romance with this adorable little tragic ghost. Just cute pecks, blushes and acting all adorable and cutesy with a crush. I just want to hug this saddened character so bad. Though I still have it in the back of my head of when he was well a child, Bioware your fault for making him hot. I regret nothing. nothing. *Cough*

I can relate. Cole is the most attractive concept, to me. After I read Asunder, I thought his "realization" at the end would lead to him becoming more adult, like other spirits we've seen. I thought he'd have been at least just around the same level of awkwardness that Merrill was. It seems like his writer implied he'd still be too child-like for a romance, though. Oh well, I still love Cole in a platonic sense.  :(


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I can relate. Cole is the most attractive concept, to me. After I read Asunder, I thought his "realization" at the end would lead to him becoming more adult, like other spirits we've seen. I thought he'd have been at least just around the same level of awkwardness that Merrill was. It seems like his writer implied he'd still be too child-like for a romance, though. Oh well, I still love Cole in a platonic sense.  :(

I feel he did mature in a sense, the novel at least left me with that impression. He understood how cruel life was and how it worked, in my mind I would think this would of made him grow up faster, not dim down. Maybe I'm blinded by it but out of all the children I have been around, Cole did not strike me as a young little boy. He was naive, sheltered and confused, who wouldn't be with such a tragic story? I adore his character and the way he progressed, I know many would disagree but I found some sort of realism in him with the feeling alone and lost bit :)

 

You were talking about his face, right? :whistle: I mean.. damn I can just imagine his cute little face going all rosy after the initial shock at confusion.

I feel so wrong.

Oh and by "he understands", you mean the erm *cough*... yeah.

 

I want him to stand there shifting weight from right to left leg, twiddling his fingers "oh you.. you want to.. kiss me inquisitor..?" - I feel this is escalating quickly and leaving the innocent zone. Just hold my hand Cole, and pick me a flower. There. (:

Haha oh no you caught on, rats!! I need to be more sneaky about my feelings ;)
Ohh! Do continue with that sentence~ I always had a thing for the sweet and overly shy sort of guy, it just makes me feel so happy inside at how kind they can be, you know unless Cole somehow didn't like me? Let's just remain with holding hands and doing some little eskimo kisses? :D Yes..yes safer bet.


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I can relate. Cole is the most attractive concept, to me. After I read Asunder, I thought his "realization" at the end would lead to him becoming more adult, like other spirits we've seen. I thought he'd have been at least just around the same level of awkwardness that Merrill was. It seems like his writer implied he'd still be too child-like for a romance, though. Oh well, I still love Cole in a platonic sense.  :(

BUT... maybe that was to knock us off the scent.. no? ;)   (*hopes*)

Besides.. I'm sure a lot of changes have taken place since that was stated. I'm also thinking it may not be Gaider's final word that counts as to whether his character is to be made a LI afterall? Yes he writes the character and the romance, but I'm not sure it's just his decision on who will be romancable. If I remember correctly, a while back, someone pointed out that a decision had been made and it made Gaider rather unhappy. (can't remember where, when or what - sorry)

*sigh* I don't know. If not, I'll just have to listen to The Cowsills - The rain, the park and other things  and just use my wild imagination and think of cute things that involve Cole, lots of flowers, fields, holding hands and smiles. (:


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#820
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I don't know what to expect. If he is cute and adorable, little boyish and sad I am just going to scoop him up and carry him around with me everywhere and buy him all the nice things. It doesn't help I'm a new mom and it'll be another outlet for my maternal instinct. On the other hand, if he's matured I will probably have him in my party just because his character is just so interesting. I am hoping more for the latter, otherwise I am going to freak out every time he goes down in battle. :/
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Well, I would be happy if Cole was a romance, but I'd feel bad if Gaider got overruled on his own creation to make it happen. I mean, I want the writers to be able to give us a representation of their characters the way they visualize them. It would kind of suck to think he had to write Cole, or part of his arc, grudgingly, you know? So, if he is a romance against expectation, I hope it's because Gaider wanted him to mature and his original comments were just about Cole as we knew him in Asunder. Even though I like the concept of Cole as a romance, I don't want it against what his creator wanted for the character.  :unsure:


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I feel he did mature in a sense, the novel at least left me with that impression. He understood how cruel life was and how it worked, in my mind I would think this would of made him grow up faster, not dim down. Maybe I'm blinded by it but out of all the children I have been around, Cole did not strike me as a young little boy. He was naive, sheltered and confused, who wouldn't be with such a tragic story? I adore his character and the way he progressed, I know many would disagree but I found some sort of realism in him with the feeling alone and lost bit :)

 

Haha oh no you caught on, rats!! I need to be more sneaky about my feelings ;)
Ohh! Do continue with that sentence~ I always had a thing for the sweet and overly shy sort of guy, it just makes me feel so happy inside at how kind they can be, you know unless Cole somehow didn't like me? Let's just remain with holding hands and doing some little eskimo kisses? :D Yes..yes safer bet.

Regarding what you said about him maturing, I have to say that his admiration and blind yet fierce loyalty he felt towards Rhys wasn't displayed in a "childish" manner. What child holds onto that feeling for so long and with such a passion to the point they would fight to the death for someone? (please fight for me in DAI, Cole. But don't die. I'll bandage your wounds and cuddle you better.)

 

And as I was reading the last part of your reply and thinking about alll the innocent cute little scenarios, something rather beautiful popped into my head. And I want it -- Baking a cake with Cole. A little oven glove and everything. What better way to spend free time in the middle of the could-be-end of the world? Hmm something's missing.. it seems TOO innocent.. oh heck, he feeds us the cake beside a roaring fire. Meow. Except he's all unsure and cute and keeps looking away all awkwardly as if he's doing something he isn't sure he should be doing. Yeah I'm definitely tired. 4am already?!



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Well, I would be happy if Cole was a romance, but I'd feel bad if Gaider got overruled on his own creation to make it happen. I mean, I want the writers to be able to give us a representation of their characters the way they visualize them. It would kind of suck to think he had to write Cole, or part of his arc, grudgingly, you know? So, if he is a romance against expectation, I hope it's because Gaider wanted him to mature and his original comments were just about Cole as we knew him in Asunder. Even though I like the concept of Cole as a romance, I don't want it against what his creator wanted for the character.  :unsure:

No I totally get this. I think in my response I was perhaps a little hasty in my hope for Cole to be an LI and didn't instantly consider the cons of if Gaider was afterall "outvoted" or told(?) to make his own character romancable (against his own wishes). Maybe he saw a window of opportunity to evolve such a controversial character and flesh him out a bit and maybe liked the idea of him being a platonic type of romance option. Either way.. Gaider wrote one of the most intriguing characters of all time, so whatever he does with him in DAI, I'll love. Romance or no. *sniff**


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Regarding what you said about him maturing, I have to say that his admiration and blind yet fierce loyalty he felt towards Rhys wasn't displayed in a "childish" manner. What child holds onto that feeling for so long and with such a passion to the point they would fight to the death for someone? (please fight for me in DAI, Cole. But don't die. I'll bandage your wounds and cuddle you better.)

 

And as I was reading the last part of your reply and thinking about alll the innocent cute little scenarios, something rather beautiful popped into my head. And I want it -- Baking a cake with Cole. A little oven glove and everything. What better way to spend free time in the middle of the could-be-end of the world? Hmm something's missing.. it seems TOO innocent.. oh heck, he feeds us the cake beside a roaring fire. Meow. Except he's all unsure and cute and keeps looking away all awkwardly as if he's doing something he isn't sure he should be doing. Yeah I'm definitely tired. 4am already?!

Whew! Girl get your body to bed and fantasize about those beautiful chocolaty dreams of innocence with Cole ;) I mean he seems the type to be very helpful to someone he considers a friend? Aw little baby ghost boy <3

 

Well, I would be happy if Cole was a romance, but I'd feel bad if Gaider got overruled on his own creation to make it happen. I mean, I want the writers to be able to give us a representation of their characters the way they visualize them. It would kind of suck to think he had to write Cole, or part of his arc, grudgingly, you know? So, if he is a romance against expectation, I hope it's because Gaider wanted him to mature and his original comments were just about Cole as we knew him in Asunder. Even though I like the concept of Cole as a romance, I don't want it against what his creator wanted for the character.  :unsure:

I understand this completely. Gaider created this character and therefore he knows exactly how this character should act and think, we could just all interpret it differently than how he saw it while writing. In the end David seems like the type of person who will always do what he thinks is for the best and for the best of his characters. I praise this mans creative mind afterall! All in all if we were able to maybe bond with Cole and become a supporting figure to him like Rhys, being platonic or an innocent romance would be fine with me. I just want to journey with this tragic soul and understand him more, he is defiantly the most intriguing companion I have seen so far, except for maybe that attractive bald man ;)


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Whew! Girl get your body to bed and fantasize about those beautiful chocolaty dreams of innocence with Cole ;) I mean he seems the type to be very helpful to someone he considers a friend? Aw little baby ghost boy <3

 

I understand this completely. Gaider created this character and therefore he knows exactly how this character should act and think, we could just all interpret it differently than how he saw it while writing. In the end David seems like the type of person who will always do what he thinks is for the best and for the best of his characters. I praise this mans creative mind afterall! All in all if we were able to maybe bond with Cole and become a supporting figure to him like Rhys, being platonic or an innocent romance would be fine with me. I just want to journey with this tragic soul and understand him more, he is defiantly the most intriguing companion I have seen so far, except for maybe that attractive bald man ;)

Haha! Nothing involving chocolate is innocent.

Goodnight all. I'll try to find the spirit of Gaider in my dream and ask for spoilers regarding Cole. Ok that's it. I'm gone now, I swear. :rolleyes:


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