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[The Night Haunter]

I'd actually be pretty annoyed if this were the case. More so if Evangeline dies with him, as that would make Wynne's sacrifice a complete and utter waste.

You'd probably hate Game of Thrones

[volaticus]

Is it weird that when i look at cole i think of this guy? http://i1.ytimg.com/...c/hqdefault.jpg, also i'm glad they're bringing in cole, he's an interesting character to have.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

The general idea is: If Rhys is alive why would Cole follow Quizzy and not Rhys?

 

We know the chantry leadership was decimated (a fairly inaccurate term since more than 10% of the leadership is dead, lol) and it would make sense for the mages to have sent the equivalent level of leadership as well. Fiona is almost certainly dead, and Rhys was not only leader of one faction, but a deciding vote and pivotal character. He would almost certainly attend the conference. I know you don't want him to be dead, but in all likelyhood you aren't gonna be happy within 30 min of the game starting (post 2-hour character creation of course).

 

[ClassicBox]

Cole is going to make it so hard for me to stick to my first Inquisitor. <<

 

"Those who wish to restore order and help the helpless will find him a strange but unwavering ally. Those who use their power for selfish reasons may never see Cole again—if they remember that he was there to begin with."

 

She is going to be a self-absorbed brat. (Much fun to play) But Coleeee, sweet precious child. I just want to pat his head and buy him endless fancy hats. ;-; Y U DO THIS.

[Lebanese Dude]

Think Iron Bull won't get along with Cole.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I think it's very likely that Rhys dies. The mages and Chantry are meant to be left headless and in chaos. I think they have to lose people like Rhys and the Divine, that largely tried to promote peace, for that to happen, unfortunately.     

[XMissWooX]

Gah!

Go away, Maternal Instinct.
You weren't supposed to come out for another decade!

[Reznore57]

Think Iron Bull won't get along with Cole.

 

Arf...I'll have to spank The Iron Bull if he's a meanie with Cole.

So sad.

[RedRio]

@dragonage: Cole: The Spirit. Get a quick introduction to this curious character here: http://t.co/6OqPEbEZsy #DAI http://t.co/WA7Qa5HL75

I may have done a happy dance when I saw this on my Twitter feed. Just a small one. He looks so sad and a bit creepier than I expected, but I still want to hug him. Glad the designers didn't go the emo pretty boy route.

 

I can't wait to meet him in game, but I don't see Cole having a happy ending. He's a Fade spirit. He'll have to return at some point. I know I'm going to grow so attached to Cole during the game. I don't think I'll be able to handle him leaving  . With that quote I wonder if he'll sacrifice himself during the endgame to help the Inquisitor. David Gaider mentioned somewhere (his tumblr, I think) that the most emotional scene he's written is in Inquisition. I wonder if that relates to Cole?

[Black Jimmy]

You'd probably hate Game of Thrones

On the contrary, I love the books and the show, but even the seemingly pointless deaths in that lead somewhere.

With Rhys and Evangeline dead, Wynne's death would effect nothing and would make the whole thing completely pointless and a waste of three great characters.

[Kisari]

I don't think it's that strange that Cole isn't with Rhys and Evangeline. When the stuff with Lambert happened, and he *poofed* I'm sure he felt a lot of shame/scared of Rhys possibly hating him. I can see him not going back to Rhys for fear that Rhys believes him to be a demon after all that happened. Also the White Spire is his home, it's where he feels safe and knows well. I have a feeling he'd be there still.

I think it's still possible Rhys and Evangeline could die, but I don't think that's necessarily why Cole wouldn't be with them.

[AresKeith]

The general idea is: If Rhys is alive why would Cole follow Quizzy and not Rhys?

 

We know the chantry leadership was decimated (a fairly inaccurate term since more than 10% of the leadership is dead, lol) and it would make sense for the mages to have sent the equivalent level of leadership as well. Fiona is almost certainly dead, and Rhys was not only leader of one faction, but a deciding vote and pivotal character. He would almost certainly attend the conference. I know you don't want him to be dead, but in all likelyhood you aren't gonna be happy within 30 min of the game starting (post 2-hour character creation of course).

 

I thought he was only a high representative to that faction, like Irving and someone else

[volaticus]

When we were discussing Crispin Freeman before, Milan mentioned how he wanted him to voice Cole, and I remembered how Gann looks a bit like Cole... Gann who is voiced by Crispin Freeman. 

Yeah not only that but their connections to a dream world as well, unfortunately cole won't have ganns sass but that's alright cause he's a adult formed child (which can be both adorable and terrifying at the same time) I actually imagine him with a different voice (more like yuri lowenthal believe it or not cause his voice can border between more high pitched and deeper) but the kind of strange appearance and long hair covering the face that cole had reminded me of gann.

[The Night Haunter]

On the contrary, I love the books and the show, but even the seemingly pointless deaths in that lead somewhere.

With Rhys and Evangeline dead, Wynne's death would effect nothing and would make the whole thing completely pointless and a waste of three great characters.

There are plenty of deaths that mean nothing.

Spoiler

The sacking of Winterfell by the Grey Joys comes to mind, there are no starks left to infuriate, and Jon is preoccupied. Plenty in Kings Landing die randomly as well. And others of course.

 

Also it wouldn't be pointless, it gave Rhys the strength to cast the deciding vote to split from the chantry. Having said that, I don't think Evangeline will be there, only Rhys. Eva is a hidden romance... j/k, but having her survive gives a leader to the Templars who isn't insane (Lambert or his successor), and is deeply invested in finding out the truth, potentially even leading a conflict of 'good' templar against red templar. 

[Solas]

See, this is why we can't release too much too quickly.  Enthusiasm overload is a very serious risk and the health implications cannot be ignored!

 

This is for your own safety.  Carry on. 

ooh i have died many happy deaths from bioware starting a long time ago!! 

extra extreme reaction today as Cole is my absolute favorite DA character

[Dragonborn]

Old Gaider post about Cole:

[Chari]

Hmm, death of Evangeline would make Wynne's sacriface pointless indeed

So I hope that yeahm Rhys dies but she doesn't

[Finnn62]

@dragonage: Cole: The Spirit. Get a quick introduction to this curious character here: http://t.co/6OqPEbEZsy #DAI http://t.co/WA7Qa5HL75

"Those who wish to restore order and help the helpless will find him a strange but unwavering ally." Perhaps I judged Cole too soon. I was sure I'd hate him from his wiki page description and Asunder summary, but if he wishes to help the helpless, maybe, just maybe I'll be happy to have him on my team. I will have to wait and see how his character plays out. He sounds almost like a new Justice (Awakening) only a more creepy silent type.

[Faerah]

Oh god I just got home from the dog park (was there for hours). I updated the OP. Now I need to catch up on all these posts that happened while I was away....it's only been 3 hours ohgod.

[Uirebhiril]

When Wynne made her choice, she couldn't know what the future would hold. When the Wardens that did the US made their choice, they couldn't know that ten years later the world would be falling apart anyway. It might be that the outcome for individuals ends up tragic despite the sacrifices made for or by them, but does that really make it pointless?

[Zellya]

The general idea is: If Rhys is alive why would Cole follow Quizzy and not Rhys?

 

We know the chantry leadership was decimated (a fairly inaccurate term since more than 10% of the leadership is dead, lol) and it would make sense for the mages to have sent the equivalent level of leadership as well. Fiona is almost certainly dead, and Rhys was not only leader of one faction, but a deciding vote and pivotal character. He would almost certainly attend the conference. I know you don't want him to be dead, but in all likelyhood you aren't gonna be happy within 30 min of the game starting (post 2-hour character creation of course).

 

I wouldn't be so quick to judge. I find it hard to believe that Bioware would spend so much time building up these characters (Rys, Evangeline, and Fiona) only to kill them off screen with nothing more than an honorable mention. More over I'm still not convinced that they don't intend to either:

 

A ) have Fiona meet with Alistair somewhere down the line (whether it be in Inquisition, another book, or another comic)

 

or B ) Assuming that Fiona is not in fact Alistair's mother, use her as a conduit to reveal the third descendant of the Calenhad's bloodline. 

 

That's not to say I don't think any of them are beyond being killed off, I just think it would be done in a way that is more unique and meaningful to their individual characters (Wynne's death being a perfect example for what I mean).

 

As to why Cole would follow the Inquisitor, well, I got the impression at the end of Asunder that Cole didn't want to burden Rys and Evangeline with his presence any longer; otherwise, why hadn't he sought them out by the time of the Epilogue? And I know it's been mentioned before, but I don't think it would be a far stretch to think that the mark on the Inquisitor's hand allows him/her to see/remember Cole without trouble. On top of that, I'm sure Cole would see the Breach as something of interest / something he should help do something about if he can. 

 

That's just my theory on the whole situation anyhow 

[KirstyLionheart]

Oh god I just got home from the dog park (was there for hours). I updated the OP. Now I need to catch up on all these posts that happened while I was away....it's only been 3 hours ohgod.

You're in for a surprise Faerah! (:!

 

EDIT - unless I'm blind and you saw already..

[Nocte ad Mortem]

In Asunder Rhys even says to Wynne on the road that she's looking for meaning where there likely isn't any, or something close to that effect. I don't believe there has to be a greater meaning to what she did. Wynne believed she was being kept alive for a greater purpose, but there's nothing to really imply that a spirit would know she had any great future purpose like that. Spirits aren't clairvoyant. What meaning Wynne believed was behind her sacrifice could have easily been purely in her head. 

[Chari]

When Wynne made her choice, she couldn't know what the future would hold. When the Wardens that did the US made their choice, they couldn't know that ten years later the world would be falling apart anyway. It might be that the outcome for individuals ends up tragic despite the sacrifices made for or by them, but does that really make it pointless?

Yes

It is not a real life

It is a story

Every story has a purpose, a beginning, a middle and an ending

Every character goes through character development and every important action has a significant meaning and some moral value

At least in proper, good stories

Unless of course you're the Uncle Shegorath and your stories are made of chaos. But even chaos has its own order