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#1576
Divine Justinia V

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I JUST REALIZED THAT WAS COLE LIKE 6 MINUTES AGO AND THAT QUOTE!! THAT QUOTE OH MY GOD MY HEART :crying: :crying: :crying:

 

I really hope we can like idk keep him around even after


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#1577
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Yes

It is not a real life

It is a story

Every story has a purpose, a beginning, a middle and an ending

Every character goes through character development and every important action has a significant meaning and some moral value

At least in proper, good stories

Unless of course you're the Uncle Shegorath and your stories are made of chaos. But even chaos has its own order

 

In the context of the entire story spanning both the video games and the books, are the actions made by the characters pointless?

 

Assuming they do end up dead in Inquisition, which we have no idea about anyway.



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I hope I can quickly boot him from my group.

Or should I keep him around just to make sure he doesn't get into trouble?

Or maybe just kill him because he's some sort of demon/abomination thing?

I wonder how he'll be introduced in the game. That will be a big factor in how my PC reacts.
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looks like I am going to have to get the books to see how Cole is


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I agree; the introduction will pretty much set the tone, I think.



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looks like I am going to have to get the books to see how Cole is

Same here. From what I've read of him, it seems his killings have mostly been mercy killings. But so many people seem to loathe him that I'm pretty certain I'm missing a lot of his character and need to educate myself more on him.


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#1582
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Cole is heavily implied to be a spirit and that's enough for a lot of people on the BSN to want to kill him.  


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I hope I can quickly boot him from my group.

Or should I keep him around just to make sure he doesn't get into trouble?

Or maybe just kill him because he's some sort of demon/abomination thing?

I wonder how he'll be introduced in the game. That will be a big factor in how my PC reacts.

 

Character background could contribute as well. Dalish view all spirits as dangerous, and (traditionally) avoid using schools of magic involving spirits, which could make recruitment difficult for a player who is playing a traditional Dalish protagonist. A Vashoth may share Qunari ideals about the Fade as the "Land of the Dead", and a mage may even have reservations about having a potential spirit or demon in their midst. Perhaps a companion might offer to watch over Cole if it becomes an issue, as something of a middle ground - in order to avoid contradicting who the player is roleplaying as.



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Same here. From what I've read of him, it seems his killings have mostly been mercy killings. But so many people seem to loathe him that I'm pretty certain I'm missing a lot of his character and need to educate myself more on him.

There's a little more to his "mercy killings" than you'd think, in the book. This is why opinions are so divided. But there's a lot more about his character that makes up for it and somewhat justifies it, in my opinion.

But you'll have to read it.. I'll say no more :P


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i would enjoy killing that rotten emo deamon again and again



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So Cole when from little kid to scarecrow really fast. My little messed  up brother is growing up so fast.  :crying:



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i would enjoy killing that emo deamon again and again

So, I'm not the only one who thinks he looks emo? Nice to know. 


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It's a terrible pun, I know, but I couldn't help but laugh when this song came on during my drive home from work after Cole's reveal today.  :lol:

 


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...now that Cole's been officially announced, I pretty much can't stop thinking that when Gaider said the most difficult moment he's ever had to write was in Inquisition he was talking about Rhys and Evangeline (his characters) dying in the Breach. :crying:

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So, I'm not the only one who thinks he looks emo? Nice to know. 

What did you expect?

He's been through a great deal. He's still going through a great deal, I assume. I hardly expected him to be some preened, golden skinned prince. That wouldn't fit his character at all and I think BW have done an outstanding job. (:



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Same here. From what I've read of him, it seems his killings have mostly been mercy killings. But so many people seem to loathe him that I'm pretty certain I'm missing a lot of his character and need to educate myself more on him.


1) In DA II, Hawke had to take along an abomination who shows a violent lack of control ten minutes after they meet. This is in a game setting where abominations are considered the most terrifying and dangerous things possible. I want DA I to give me the CHOICE to not have companions that the average person would rightfully want to be as far away from as possible.

2) The entire plot of DA I is based around keeping demons/spirits out of the mortal realm. Cole is some strange demon/spirit thing that has already murdered people. This is a bit like the Grey Warden being offered a darkspawn companion. It's fine if some PCs want to bring him along, but mine likely won't.
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#1592
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It's a terrible pun, I know, but I couldn't help but laugh when this song came on during my drive home from work after Cole's reveal today.  :lol:

 

Perfect. :lol:

*tries to ignore image of Cole doing a stiff, expressionless shoulder-jig to the beat*



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...now that Cole's been officially announced, I pretty much can't stop thinking that when Gaider said the most difficult moment he's ever had to write was in Inquisition he was talking about Rhys and Evangeline (his characters) dying in the Breach. :crying:

When/where did he say that? 


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...now that Cole's been officially announced, I pretty much can't stop thinking that when Gaider said the most difficult moment he's ever had to write was in Inquisition he was talking about Rhys and Evangeline (his characters) dying in the Breach. :crying:

 

I am gravely concerned for those two. :(


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#1595
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They did a great job making him look the way they described in the book. The veins/dark circles... definitely looks deadish.

 

 

He's cute though. My poor baby :(


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What did you expect?

He's been through a great deal. He's still going through a great deal, I assume. I hardly expected him to be some preened, golden skinned prince. That wouldn't fit his character at all and I think BW have done an outstanding job. (:

He does look a little more dead than he did to the in the book. I like the scarecrow hat it makes me wish Shale was in DAI. The hats in DAI are awesome.  



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...now that Cole's been officially announced, I pretty much can't stop thinking that when Gaider said the most difficult moment he's ever had to write was in Inquisition he was talking about Rhys and Evangeline (his characters) dying in the Breach. :crying:

I can imagine Cole's reactions being pretty hard to stomach, if you're a Cole lover (like moi)... oh my.. :(

I am looking forward to how our inquisitor can react to/deal with that, though.



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Alright, I'm finally caught up. Happy Cole reveal day everyone!


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When/where did he say that?


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Someone: "need to get the books now i guess"

Same here. From what I've read of him, it seems his killings have mostly been mercy killings. But so many people seem to loathe him that I'm pretty certain I'm missing a lot of his character and need to educate myself more on him.

for those who may be daunted: Cole only appears in one of the books, Asunder by david gaider, and the books can definitely be read separately / singly. you need only read one book if you want to experience Cole's book background :)

tho i would recc them all cause i loved them all but :P just in case people were daunted and thought they had to read a whole series or something


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