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Cole discussion, speculation, and fan thread: "How do you know?"


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I don't think he is a walking corpse any more than Wynne was.  He was living in a place without sunlight, baths, or mirrors (ahem, hat). 

 

That's pretty much what I was thinking the moment I saw him all pale and ghastly looking. XD If you ever have actually seen people who don't go out in the sun to the level he has, they look gaunt and their skin is terrifying levels of pale where you can see the veins. When you don't get any sort of sun, you just kinda... yeah know. Don't look too healthy. 

 

It makes me interested to see people thinking he's another Justice in terms of a spirit possessing a dead body. I know he looks pale and deadish, but dead body like? Ehhh.


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He used that to remove his invisibility nothing more and well we can see him so well it won't be rather problem.

You're not getting that you need to know Cole is around to even think to of using it on him.



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He used that to remove his invisibility nothing more and well we can see him so well it won't be rather problem.

But, isn't his invisibility a natural power he has. Plus, there is the theory that it is a blood magic side effect.  



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1. Lambert is dead via Cole via surprise attack.

2. The first fight Lambert was prepare and knew about Cole.

 

You're not going to have that advantage.

We don't know if lambert is dead and suprise attack...

As i said we can see Cole so protagonist may be special well is in fact special already so well...

 

 

You're not getting that you need to know Cole is around to even think to of using it on him.

And yet we can see him so well...

 

 

But, isn't his invisibility a natural power he has. Plus, there is the theory that it is a blood magic side effect.  

Yep he is demon or something like but it seems we can see him so perhaps his power don't work in that case.



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We don't know if lambert is dead and suprise attack...

As i said we can see Cole so protagonist may be special well is in fact special already so well...

 

 

And yet we can see him so well...

 

 

Yep he is demon or something like but it seems we can see him so perhaps his power don't work in that case.

1. HE IS DEAD. That last scene is Cole's killing m.o.

 

2. You don't know that. You have no context on why and how he can be seen by the group and/or inquisitor. So with out context you can't say that.

 

You're not getting that you have to  A. have that anti-demon scroll at the time you meet him. and b. know he is around to use it. You know idea how and if we can see him on our own or even it we have the scroll available to carry around to use it.



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That's pretty much what I was thinking the moment I saw him all pale and ghastly looking. XD If you ever have actually seen people who don't go out in the sun to the level he has, they look gaunt and their skin is terrifying levels of pale where you can see the veins. When you don't get any sort of sun, you just kinda... yeah know. Don't look too healthy. 

 

It makes me interested to see people thinking he's another Justice in terms of a spirit possessing a dead body. I know he looks pale and deadish, but dead body like? Ehhh.

 

Yeah, this.  He looks very pale and unhealthy, but saying he's a walking corpse is a bit much.  I think some of it is because all spirit companions we've had so far have been possessed people or corpses, so that's what's expected.  But what's interesting about Cole is that he doesn't fit into neat and simple ideas about spirits and demons.  There's no clear cut good or evil, and no defined virtue or sin or idea he claims to embody.  He's just Cole.


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Just learned about Cole's reveal. Haven't read the book, but have heard people talk about him. My thoughts...

 

Looks better than he does in the table image.

 

...aaaaaand that's about it. I don't have much of an opinion on Cole at this point in time.



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1. HE IS DEAD. That last scene is Cole's killing m.o.

 

2. You don't know that. You have no context on why and how he can be seen by the group and/or inquisitor. So with out context you can't say that.

 

You're not getting that you have to  A. have that anti-demon scroll at the time you meet him. and b. know he is around to use it. You know idea how and if we can see him on our own or even it we have the scroll available to carry around to use it.

1.LoL he isn't he may be dead or not scene with lambert and cole is left unknown and we don't know if he is killed or other fate meet him. As far in WoT he is MIA or at least what most say.

 

Wether he is seen by group or not it isn't still known it seems rhys was special in that case and cole power didn't affect him if i renember correctly.We know that something happens to inq during breach.

 

As i said Rhys didn't need those things so perhaps as well inq pretty much for sure inq won't forget and will be able see him as well it would be not practical.



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LoL he isn't he may be dead or not scene with lambert and cole is left unknown and we don't know if he is killed or other fate meet him.

 

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1. HE IS DEAD. That last scene is Cole's killing m.o.

 

 

I do have to raise the point with this one that we actually don't know if Lambert is actually dead or not, he is only presumed dead. In the map on the DAI site it lists a rather interesting point about Lambert that he is MIA but possibly dead. Coles not the type to drag someones body to somewhere unseen after he kills them, and Cole went to him while Lambert was in his room. So it's a bit of a mystery what went down there and why Lamberts body wasn't found in his room.



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1.LoL he isn't he may be dead or not scene with lambert and cole is left unknown and we don't know if he is killed or other fate meet him. As far in WoT he is MIA or at least what most say.

 

Wether he is seen by group or not it isn't still known it seems rhys was special in that case and cole power didn't affect him if i renember correctly.We know that something happens to inq during breach.

 

As i said Rhys didn't need those things so perhaps as well inq pretty much for sure inq won't forget and will be able see him as well it would be not practical.

1.The fact the Cole is alive and had the blade and Lambert's throat proves Lambert is dead.

 

2. Rhys is a spirit mage who specializes in fade spirit use and manipulation. He has circumstances going for him that allows him to see Cole. Circumstances that are impossible for you to know the inquisitor has.



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Yeah, this.  He looks very pale and unhealthy, but saying he's a walking corpse is a bit much.  I think some of it is because all spirit companions we've had so far have been possessed people or corpses, so that's what's expected.  But what's interesting about Cole is that he doesn't fit into neat and simple ideas about spirits and demons.  There's no clear cut good or evil, and no defined virtue or sin or idea he claims to embody.  He's just Cole.

He personally does look like a walking corpse to me. Look at his lips and eyes.  It goes beyond pale and unhealthy skin.



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1.The fact the Cole is alive and had the blade and Lambert's throat proves Lambert is dead.

 

Because there's absolutely no way those circumstances could have gone any other way, right?



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1.The fact the Cole is alive and had the blade and Lambert's throat proves Lambert is dead.

 

2. Rhys is a spirit mage who specializes in fade spirit use and manipulation. He has circumstances going for him that allows him to see Cole. Circumstances that are impossible for you to know the inquisitor has.

1.No it isn't? Who said that cole killed him or not did something else with him? They didn't even found his body if he simple killed him they would and if they did he wouldn't be MIA.Also lambet could escape but cole as well and now lambet is hiding.There is many scenario in fiction we damn killed leliana and saw her body yet she still is alive.

 

2.And Inq have some connection to the fade or at least veil so perhaps it is same i don't say that it is in case but i can bet that inq can see him and won't forget for one reason or another.  



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He personally does look like a walking corpse to me. Look at his lips and eyes.  It goes beyond pale and unhealthy skin.

 

He has more of a insomniac level with how raccoon'd his eyes are, and his lips wouldn't be rosey if the rest of his skin is pale and gaunt.  He kinda looks like he needs some chapstick since they looked really chapped and cracked. 

 

....How is raccoon a censored word? That was weird.


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Because there's absolutely no way those circumstances could have gone any other way, right?

A very low chance. There's always murphy's law. But the chance are still low the Cole would just let him go.



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Because there's absolutely no way those circumstances could have gone any other way, right?

You have to love cliffhanger ending 

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1.No it isn't? Who said that cole killed him or not did something else with him? They didn't even found his body if he simple killed him they would and if they did he wouldn't be MIA.Also lambet could escape but cole as well and now lambet is hiding.There is many scenario in fiction we damn killed leliana and saw her body yet she still is alive.

 

2.And Inq have some connection to the fade or at least veil so perhaps it is same i don't say that it is in case but i can bet that inq can see him and won't forget for one reason or another.

1.So the leader of the Templar is just going to disappear and not Lead the templars some how? And he's just going away just because?

 

2. And that is just a speculation. As I said before you don't have the context to say the Inquisitor can easily see Cole. You can use it as a point.'t



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Well, to be honest we don't know who is leading the Templars. It could be Lambert. 

 

If so, I hope Fiona is alive and leads the Mages. Those two are good counters to each other. 



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1.So the leader of the Templar is just going to disappear and not Lead the templars some how? And he's just going away just because?

 

So far we have no information about who leads the Templars or the Red Templars...



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1.So the leader of the Templar is just going to disappear and not Lead the templars some how? And he's just going away just because?

 

2. And that is just a speculation. As I said before you don't have the context to say the Inquisitor can easily see Cole. You can use it as a point.'t

Well templars killed guy because they thought that shovel is staff do you want argue about stupidity and lack of sense in dragon age universe? ;) 

Well i don't say that it was that scenario but after meeting with invisible abomnation i would hide and lead templars from shadows.

 

2.Well i can see him and his power won't affect me so why i can;t kill him besides plot armor well i can't see reason.



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Well, to be honest we don't know who is leading the Templars. It could be Lambert. 

 

If so, I hope Fiona is alive and leads the Mages. Those two are good counters to each other. 

 

 

So far we have no information about who leads the Templars or the Red Templars...

He's the one who annulled the Navarra accord. Somehow he's not the leader of the templars?



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Well templars killed guy because they thought that shovel is staff do you want argue about stupidity and lack of sense in dragon age universe? ;)

Well i don't say that it was that scenario but after meeting with invisible abomnation i would hide and lead templars from shadows.

 

2.Well i can see him and his power won't affect me so why i can;t kill him besides plot armor well i can't see reason.

1. What?

2.Again, you don't know the context to why the inquisitor can so you can't say you'll kill him on the spot yet.



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He's the one who annulled the Navarra accord. Somehow he's not the leader of the templars?

They said that we don't know who is current templars or red templars leader it might be lambert.Well at least i think that they said that. 

 

 

1. What?

2.Again, you don't know the context to why the inquisitor can so you can't say you'll kill him on the spot yet.

 

1.What part i need explain first or second?

2.As i said if i see him i can kill him no matter what contex it will have as long he don't have plot armor like Anders.



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He's the one who annulled the Navarra accord. Somehow he's not the leader of the templars?

We're saying we have no idea who is leading the Templars. Lambert is a distinct possibility.