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They said that we don't know who is current templars or red templars leader it might be lambert.Well at least i think that they said that. 

The person who ordered the templars to leave the circle is not the Leader somehow?



#1702
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We're saying we have no idea who is leading the Templars. Lambert is a distinct possibility. 

The person who ordered the templars to leave the chantry is not the Leader somehow?



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The person who ordered the templars to leave the circle is not the Leader somehow?

Oh god...

 

They said that we don't know who is current leader of templars (not in asunder)... you said he is dead and used argument that why he would not lead templars.And they said that we don't know who is current templar leader and he might still be their leader or be red templar we don't know.



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The person who ordered the templars to leave the chantry is not the Leader somehow?

Okay, let's try this. 

 

We, the players, do not know who is leading the Templars in Dragon Age: Inquisition. It could be Lambert, or it could not be. Bioware has yet to confirm who the leaders of the factions are. 



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Okay, let's try this. 

 

We, the players, do not know who is leading the Templars in Dragon Age: Inquisition. It could be Lambert, or it could not be. Bioware has yet to confirm who the leaders of the factions are. 

That's not my point. Yes, the leader of the templars my of changed hands but you don't see it odd the the person who placed himself in a leadership role of the templars to suddenly up and disappear? Right, sure there other leaders for the templars. Lambert was not the only seeker. But he place him self as leader and then suddenly went up in smoke. Would someone like Lambert suddenly do that?



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Boring.  It's weird how people need to declare they'll kill off allies in a game.  It seems less impressive and more trollish, but if it makes you happy kill everyone in the game and be a total bastard; that'll show them all.

 

About Cole, it is my understand that he is not possessing the body of a dead person, but instead fashioned himself out of the memories, and mimicing the appearance of a person he killed who had been a prisoner.  I hope that he does not decay in game unless it is connected to his state of mind.  He looks huge in the last supper picture, almost as big as Iron Bull.  I imagined him as slight and small.  



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Okay, let's try this. 

 

We, the players, do not know who is leading the Templars in Dragon Age: Inquisition. It could be Lambert, or it could not be. Bioware has yet to confirm who the leaders of the factions are. 

It could be the girl who tries to touch Meredith when she turned to stone; or, maybe Meredith is not dead. Maybe, the Templars tore her body apart, and now she controls them like a hive mind. :alien:    



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So far Cole looks pretty cool and interesting, but I keep reading all these posts of people wanting to hug him?  I mean more than likely won't he smell of rotting flesh?  That would just be a very bad choice since it sounds like he's still using the same rotting body he found in the spire so very long ago...  :unsure:

I didn't read the book though, so maybe I'm wrong?  Please tell me I'm wrong, cause hearing Velanna talk about how bad Justice smelled was pretty gross.  :P

 

Anywho, congrats on the reveal Cole fans!



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But even more importantly... how do we feel about that hat?

 

I'm a little iffy on it, makes him look a bit like a demented version of a Churchill Downs attendee

 

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Oh Maker, please somebody do a crazy champagne meme w/ Cole- I'm begging you!



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That's not my point. Yes, the leader of the templars my of changed hands but you don't see it odd the the person who placed himself in a leadership role of the templars to suddenly up and disappear? Right, sure there other leaders for the templars. Lambert was not the only seeker. But he place him self as leader and then suddenly went up in smoke. Would someone like Lambert suddenly do that?

As i said he might want stay in shadows after cole incident if he of course survived and escaped but he still may lead them from shadows.Another scnario is that he want mad and become red templar ( i hope it isn't in case but it is possible).And someone throw that lambert may be deliberately causing mage-templar war very low chances but possible if devs decide that.

 

Boring.  It's weird how people need to declare they'll kill off allies in a game.  It seems less impressive and more trollish, but if it makes you happy kill everyone in the game and be a total bastard; that'll show them all.

Sorry but i have to say something it is prefectly fine that peoples say that i don't see reason why pro-templar shouldn't put merril or anders down or peoples with conflicting views that will betray us or cause troubles.By this point if i knows something that abomnation in dragon age = troubles especially if one is serial killer.



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The kite hat still makes me laugh.



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That's not my point. Yes, the leader of the templars my of changed hands but you don't see it odd the the person who placed himself in a leadership role of the templars to suddenly up and disappear? Right, sure there other leaders for the templars. Lambert was not the only seeker. But he place him self as leader and then suddenly went up in smoke. Would someone like Lambert suddenly do that?

Not really. I can think of a few reasons Lambert would have himself disappear. 

 

It could be the girl who tries to touch Meredith when she turned to stone; or, maybe Meredith is not dead. Maybe, the Templars tore her body apart, and now she controls them like a hive mind. :alien:    

The Red Templars aren't with the regular Templars though. Though the 'Meredith's will overpowering the Red Lyrium to control the other Red Templars' would be interesting, I don't see it. 



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By this point if i knows something that abomnation in dragon age = troubles especially if one is serial killer.

What about Wynne? She wasn't trouble. 

 

And we don't know if Cole is an abomination, or even a demon. I think he is closer to a Shade myself. 



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Please no Meredith is alive! bullocks please.....



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Boring.  It's weird how people need to declare they'll kill off allies in a game.  It seems less impressive and more trollish, but if it makes you happy kill everyone in the game and be a total bastard; that'll show them all.

 

About Cole, it is my understand that he is not possessing the body of a dead person, but instead fashioned himself out of the memories, and mimicing the appearance of a person he killed who had been a prisoner.  I hope that he does not decay in game unless it is connected to his state of mind.  He looks huge in the last supper picture, almost as big as Iron Bull.  I imagined him as slight and small.  

It's just the opposite side of those that love a character and feel the need to declare that they will take that character everywhere and snuggle hug the said character. It's just a persons outlook on the character and people on the forums have this sort of need to declare their opinion since, well, that's how it's supposed to be I suppose. I find both to be boring when it's nothing but love fluff or nothing but hate seething since both don't allow for very good conversations. I was going up a god butting wall when this thread was nothing but 'oh no Coles hot' or 'oh no Cole looks weird' when we didn't have an upclose view of Cole. But now with his reveal and better pictures, it seems there's been an explosion of new conversations which thank goodness.

 

The image of the last supper scene is actually of a curved table, which is throwing off everyones size perspective considerably. Those in the middle are farther away vs those father out are seen as a lot bigger. If you actually look at that picture for it's face value of their sizes, Cullen is a bloody giant towering over all XD


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Please no Meredith is alive! bullocks please.....

I don't see it. If the Red Lyrium was able to overpower her will when she was alive, how can her will overpower it when she is dead?



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So far Cole looks pretty cool and interesting, but I keep reading all these posts of people wanting to hug him?  I mean more than likely won't he smell of rotting flesh?  That would just be a very bad choice since it sounds like he's still using the same rotting body he found in the spire so very long ago...  :unsure:

I didn't read the book though, so maybe I'm wrong?  Please tell me I'm wrong, cause hearing Velanna talk about how bad Justice smelled was pretty gross.  :P

 

Anywho, congrats on the reveal Cole fans!

 

There's a lot of evidence indicating that Cole is not possessing a dead corpse, namely that he needed to eat and sleep and that throughout the entire novel not once was it mentioned that he was rotting despite Rys having been in contact with him for a year at least. 

 

What exactly he is, is in question, but spirit possessed corpse is almost definitely out.


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So far Cole looks pretty cool and interesting, but I keep reading all these posts of people wanting to hug him?  I mean more than likely won't he smell of rotting flesh?  That would just be a very bad choice since it sounds like he's still using the same rotting body he found in the spire so very long ago...  :unsure:

I didn't read the book though, so maybe I'm wrong?  Please tell me I'm wrong, cause hearing Velanna talk about how bad Justice smelled was pretty gross.  :P

 

Anywho, congrats on the reveal Cole fans!

 We don't really know if Cole is possessing a dead corpse or is a shade or really exactly what he is.

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Edit: petition to make this Cole's official meme/gif!

 

 

Also leaguer of one and TheKomandorShepard do this in every Cole thread I've seen, they'll work it out of their system eventually ._.



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I don't see it. If the Red Lyrium was able to overpower her will when she was alive, how can her will overpower it when she is dead?

Can she at least be a behemoth? 



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He might not be a walking corpse, but he still looks like a corpse though imo. Don't have issues with people wanting to hug him and protect him though, it does make sense. Romance though? Hell no, just don't even go there people.



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Can she at least be a behemoth? 

She can be the Red Lyrium somebody ate and who later turned into a Behemoth. That work for you? :P


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#1722
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Not really. I can think of a few reasons Lambert would have himself disappear. 

 

The Red Templars aren't with the regular Templars though. Though the 'Meredith's will overpowering the Red Lyrium to control the other Red Templars' would be interesting, I don't see it. 

Sorry. I don't see how an in your face lazer focus guy who does not back down would make himself disappear with no one knowing where he went.



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So far Cole looks pretty cool and interesting, but I keep reading all these posts of people wanting to hug him?  I mean more than likely won't he smell of rotting flesh?  That would just be a very bad choice since it sounds like he's still using the same rotting body he found in the spire so very long ago...  :unsure:

I didn't read the book though, so maybe I'm wrong?  Please tell me I'm wrong, cause hearing Velanna talk about how bad Justice smelled was pretty gross.  :P

 

Anywho, congrats on the reveal Cole fans!

 

The 'wanting to hug him' bit is mainly stemmed from how troubled he was in the book. In the book, he's pathetic and hopeless, alone without a soul in the world except one person to remember he was even a thing. He's sad, in need of companionship type of character who is forgotten and invisible to the world with only a few to even remember they spoke to him. 

 

So the sort of 'weak' character in the book has one of two reactions; 'Omg what a whiney emo' or 'Omg what a poor dear he needs help'. 

 

Also Coles not a corpse. He could just really need a bath since his bathing in the book was more or less swimming in pools of water found in the dungeons of the White Spire. Which who knows where that water is from XD


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As i said he might want stay in shadows after cole incident if he of course survived and escaped but he still may lead them from shadows.Another scnario is that he want mad and become red templar ( i hope it isn't in case but it is possible).And someone throw that lambert may be deliberately causing mage-templar war very low chances but possible if devs decide that.

 

Sorry but i have to say something it is prefectly fine that peoples say that i don't see reason why pro-templar shouldn't put merril or anders down or peoples with conflicting views that will betray us or cause troubles.By this point if i knows something that abomnation in dragon age = troubles especially if one is serial killer.

Seriously... What? Like he could Hide from a spirit who can sense people from miles away. And being a red templar does not equal disappear.



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About Cole, it is my understand that he is not possessing the body of a dead person, but instead fashioned himself out of the memories, and mimicing the appearance of a person he killed who had been a prisoner.  

 

Yeah, except Cole didn't kill the original Cole.  The original Cole died of neglect in a dungeon while the spirit that became Cole tried to comfort him.  


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