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#1851
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1.Shades is demon true form in real world if they don;t find body...

2.If wot says that i can belive in that but as i said once it is wiki everyone can write what they want pretty much as you were screaming at me about anders and templar that wanted kill him because wiki said that she didn't want to that i had to provide video.Anyone with WoT can confirm? Pretty much even picture is suspicious as demon possessed mage if you kill that demon she even thanks for freeing her...

1. For weak demons.

2.You don't need a book to know a copy of a body is not the same thing. Added, the case you are pointing out is when souls of people from the normal world were trapped in the fade by an abomination witch. And even then demons holding on a soul does not make a soul an abomination. A living body is need. It has to be alive or just resently die by moments.



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Hehehe... bitter sweet Cole notta-fan tears!

I feel the same way bro.


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#1853
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Please ask devs what kind of food is he.



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1. For weak demons.

2.You don't need a book to know a copy of a body is not the same thing. Added, the case you are pointing out is when souls of people from the normal world were trapped in the fade by an abomination witch. And even then demons holding on a soul does not make a soul an abomination. A living body is need. It has to be alive or just resently die by moments.

1.it is never said unless it is in WoT

2.What you are talking about... im talking about about her she is listed as example but she was possessed by hunger demons not hunger demon creating human form... what pretty much most demons can do in the fade...



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Please ask devs what kind of food is he.

He's the Wax Fruit that was mentioned in the food list. 

 

 

 

Oops I meant wax not the plastic, not sure where I got plastic from.


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#1856
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Please ask devs what kind of food is he.

I wouldn't.  They said that they aren't answering those food questions anymore because, "it got out of control."  

 

It stands to reason that he's wax fruit.


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#1857
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1.it is never said unless it is in WoT

2.What you are talking about... im talking about about her she is listed as example but she was possessed by hunger demons not hunger demon creating human form... what pretty much most demons can do in the fade...

1. The source is the codex.

2. WoT p. 169 makes it a point that demons can take human form. And the girl is not an abomination. She's a trapped soul in the fade held by a demon. Added you need to fully read what you just linked.



#1858
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He's the Wax Fruit that was mentioned in the food list. 

 

 

 

Oops I meant wax not the plastic, not sure where I got plastic from.

That makes sense.



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I am so late for the hype but oh, man, official Cole confirmation! It's here! Not that it's all that surprising because the hints were pretty strong and I was fairly sure of Cole's companion status ever since that Last Supper-esque pic and his first appearance there, which was a pretty strong hint along with all the other present hints, but I still had the most embarrassing reaction when I first saw that he was confirmed. And I was hoping for this ever since I read Asunder and discovered that Cole was mentioned as a companion in the survey so needless to say I am delighted and excited  :) So much that I am willing to forget all about the lack of Solas or Dorian related new info because for now I am more than satisfied.

 

I have so many questions though. How did Cole go from end-of-Asunder-spoiler-events to joining the Inquisition? Where was he after **** went down in Asunder, where did he go, and how did that lead to the Inquisition? How did he deal with the Revelations about himself? How much does he remember? Does he remember everything or did he block out a few things (for convenience and to keep him as he was in Asunder as much as possible)? Where did he get those clothes? How did he get that hat and why is he wearing it and why does he think it's a good idea? Who let the poor boy dress himself? (Oh, wait, probably no one because... nobody sees him...) How are they going to handle the invisibility and nobody-remembers-him thing with him having a whole group of people and companions? Will the Inquisitor be a special exception because of their glowy green Fade hand and they'll never have that problem thanks to it? (Actually the probably will.) What about the rest of the companions? And that really heartbreaking quote implies his character development in Asunder had a pretty strong effect, so he's different from what he was at the start of the book, but were there events between Asunder and Inquisition that had any influence as well? And of course, most importantly of all, will I get to adopt him?

 

So many questions.


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#1860
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1. The source is the codex.

2. WoT p. 169 A makes it a point that demons can take human form. And the girl is not an abomination. She's a trapped soul in the fade held by a demon. Added you need to fully read what you just linked.

1.Where? For sure i check shade codex in game there was nothing about demons being weak...

2.As i said last time you gave me source on wiki i told you that wiki sometimes lie when you started scream on me that im wrong after 10 pages i gave you video with prove that rylock wanted kill anders proving that you and wiki was wrong.As i said everyone can add something there as long no one confirm that i won't belive. And thanks that you told me what i said even if i didn't (again) that  she was an abomnation.



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I don't hate Cole; I rather like him as a character and feel that he would have been a great addition to the game as an NPC. 

 

I just don't want him as a companion; I think he'd work a lot better as the subject of a quest rather than as a member of the party. 

 

As such, I have no intention of ever recruiting him; my own little form of protest against his manner of inclusion. If possible, I'll reject him kindly, but I will reject any attempts he makes at joining the group.



#1862
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I am so late for the hype but oh, man, official Cole confirmation! It's here! Not that it's all that surprising because the hints were pretty strong and I was fairly sure of Cole's companion status ever since that Last Supper-esque pic and his first appearance there, which was a pretty strong hint along with all the other present hints, but I still had the most embarrassing reaction when I first saw that he was confirmed. And I was hoping for this ever since I read Asunder and discovered that Cole was mentioned as a companion in the survey so needless to say I am delighted and excited  :) So much that I am willing to forget all about the lack of Solas or Dorian related new info because for now I am more than satisfied.

 

I have so many questions though. How did Cole go from end-of-Asunder-spoiler-events to joining the Inquisition? Where was he after **** went down in Asunder, where did he go, and how did that lead to the Inquisition? How did he deal with the Revelations about himself? How much does he remember? Does he remember everything or did he block out a few things (for convenience and to keep him as he was in Asunder as much as possible)? Where did he get those clothes? How did he get that hat and why is he wearing it and why does he think it's a good idea? Who let the poor boy dress himself? (Oh, wait, probably no one because... nobody sees him...) How are they going to handle the invisibility and nobody-remembers-him thing with him having a whole group of people and companions? Will the Inquisitor be a special exception because of their glowy green Fade hand and they'll never have that problem thanks to it? (Actually the probably will.) What about the rest of the companions? And that really heartbreaking quote implies his character development in Asunder had a pretty strong effect, so he's different from what he was at the start of the book, but were there events between Asunder and Inquisition that had any influence as well? And of course, most importantly of all, will I get to adopt him?

 

So many questions.

Oh my so many indeed, many of them is what many in here have been mulling over before he was revealed as well. I'm fairly sure that most of those questions will be answered in the game. Certainly when it comes with how he gets to the Inquisition and why he's there.



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Popping in to say I'm happy Cole finally got revealed, even though I was hoping for Solas.  I'm a Cole fan, too--look forward to being Momquisitor.  With his "helping others" attitude according to the website description, he and most of my Inquisitors will get along great.


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#1864
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1.Where? For sure i check shade codex in game there was nothing about demons being weak...

2.As i said last time you gave me source on wiki i told you that wiki sometimes lie when you started scream on me that im wrong after 10 pages i gave you video with prove that rylock wanted kill anders proving that you and wiki was wrong.As i said everyone can add something there as long no one confirm that i won't belive. And thanks that you told me what i said even if i didn't (again) that  she was an abomnation.

1. Ironically the same source says Cole is a shade... My source is the codex on hunger demons.

2. And I gave you a source from WoT. You're now grasping at straws on the issue.Even WoT says demons can take the form of humans and living beings without possession.. And no she was not an abomination. The wiki never said she was, the codex never said she an abomination. No source says she was an abomination which is why I said for you to read what you were linking.



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I want to cut Cole's hair.



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1. Ironically the same source says Cole is a shade... My source is the codex on hunger demons.

2. And I gave you a source from WoT. You're now grasping at straws on the issue.Even WoT says demons can take the form of humans and living beings without possession.. And no she was not an abomination. The wiki never said she was, the codex never said she an abomination. No source says she was an abomination which is why I said for you to read what you were linking.

1.EEe i don't know what is your source but i advice don't use it... there is no such thing as codex on hunger demons liar. ;)

2.Nope you didn't you gave me wiki page where it claims that wot claims that hunger demons can take human form... and as example is given hunger demon in the fade where pretty much most demons can take human form... As i siad 999 times that you ignore wiki is site that everyone can add everything and it can be wrong i proved that before in discussion with me that im wrong because wiki claims that rylock didn't want kill anders and after 10 pages or something like that of that discussion that you started throw random arguments that im wrong i provided video where she cleary said she wanted kill anders so well i don't think that discussion have point as previous as simple show now you throw flase arguments and say that you gave me source from wot when all you gave me is wiki page that everyone can edit what i pointed in our previous discussion that i mentioned.

 

Done here



#1867
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There are plenty of deaths that mean nothing.

Spoiler

 

Also it wouldn't be pointless, it gave Rhys the strength to cast the deciding vote to split from the chantry. Having said that, I don't think Evangeline will be there, only Rhys. Eva is a hidden romance... j/k, but having her survive gives a leader to the Templars who isn't insane (Lambert or his successor), and is deeply invested in finding out the truth, potentially even leading a conflict of 'good' templar against red templar. 

Spoiler

 

I would have though Rhys would have done that anyway, after having just fought his way out of the White Spire. I don't think Wynne dying changed much.

Generally I think it was a good death for Wynne, dying selflessly. I just hope it's not for nothing.


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#1868
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1.EEe i don't know what is your source but i advice don't use it... there is no such thing as codex on hunger demons liar. ;)

2.Nope you didn't you gave me wiki page where it claims that wot claims that hunger demons can take human form... and as example is given hunger demon in the fade where pretty much most demons can take human form... As i siad 999 times that you ignore wiki is site that everyone can add everything and it can be wrong i proved that before in discussion with me that im wrong because wiki claims that rylock didn't want kill anders and after 10 pages or something like that of that discussion that you started throw random arguments that im wrong i provided video where she cleary said she wanted kill anders so well i don't think that discussion have point as previous as simple show now you throw flase arguments and say that you gave me source from wot when all you gave me is wiki page that everyone can edit what i pointed in our previous discussion that i mentioned.

 

Done here

1. The more you know....

http://dragonage.wik...mon#cite_note-0

 

 

 

2.Read my last 2 post. I gave you the page it was on in WoT..p. 169 . Sorry but you cleary don't read. Even the advertisement for Cole says he is a spirit. You're wrong. Just admit it.



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Pointless arguments lol.

I love Cole.

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1. The more you know....

http://dragonage.wik...mon#cite_note-0

 

 

 

2.Read my last 2 post. I gave you the page it was on in WoT..p. 169 . Sorry but you cleary don't read. Even the advertisement for Cole says he is a spirit. You're wrong. Just admit it.

1...Oh god even facepalm can't define that that is wiki entry is not codex entry everyone can edit page simple?Didn't we settle that with our Anders/Rylock discussion that wiki can be wrong?

 

2.Again you gave me wiki page and as i said i don't have WoT so i asked for someone to confirm that and wiki page can be wrong as everyone can put that everything as i said my discussion with you proved that... IF someone with wot confirm that hunger demon can take human form in "real"  world i will belive it but not from you nor from wiki because as already proven it isn't always truthful as you aren't.



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1...Oh god even facepalm can't define that that is wiki entry is not codex entry everyone can edit page simple?Didn't we settle that with our Anders/Rylock discussion that wiki can be wrong?

 

2.Again you gave me wiki page and as i said i don't have WoT so i asked for someone to confirm that and wiki page can be wrong as everyone can put that everything as i said my discussion with you proved that... IF someone with wot confirm that hunger demon can take human form in "real"  world i will belive it but not from you nor from wiki because as already proven it isn't always truthful as you aren't.

1. You need to click that link I posted. You have no Idea what you are saying.

2. What do you not understand when I writing WoT p.169? Does that somehow mean a link to a wiki page? You doing understand Wot means World of Thedus and P.169 is a page number? That what I originally posted. You keep saying use WoT when I am use WoT. You really don't read.



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... Huh.

Looking through the thread and reading everyone's reactions to Cole, I can't help but feel that I've become very... disconnected... from the norm here.

Because some people have taken one look at Cole and are like:

"NOPE NOPE NOPE THAT THING IS CREEPY AS HELL GET IT AWAY FROM ME".

And I took one look at Cole and was like:

"Would you look at this adorable and broken child who I am going to mOTHER TO DEATH".

Which is a little beyond my fascination with Cole's concept and execution as a character.

It's a really large logical leap. I worry for my sanity, some days.


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#1873
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I come here to get some quality information about companion then I see people litreally arguing over the most pointless thing ever..



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Hehehe... bitter sweet Cole notta-fan tears!

Yeah pretty much sums up my current stance. I'm interested to see how he's presented and whether it'll change my Asunder view.



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... Huh.
Looking through the thread and reading everyone's reactions to Cole, I can't help but feel that I've become very... disconnected... from the norm here.
Because some people have taken one look at Cole and are like:
"NOPE NOPE NOPE THAT THING IS CREEPY AS HELL GET IT AWAY FROM ME".
And I took one look at Cole and was like:
"Would you look at this adorable and broken child who I am going to mOTHER TO DEATH".
Which is a little beyond my fascination with Cole's concept and execution as a character.
It's a really large logical leap. I worry for my sanity, some days.

My first instinct was "poor boy, he needs looking after" and it's been the instinct of a few people. I think there's a divide between people who see a tortured soul on need of help, regardless of past actions, and the people who see his past actions and his possible demon-ness as being more salient to his character. I like divisive characters, they make me happy :)