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[Omikuji]

There's some fans that really want to be able to romance Cole, regardless of Gaider's protests about the matter. Just suggesting we keep the smutty stuff out of here, lest the Eye of Gaider's gaze turn upon us.

Buh. Why in the world would they want to romance him other then he's oftly pretty? He's got a child mentality, he has so many issues with processing that sort of thing that in the book he was more like he was 12 in voice but older in body. DX

 

I wonder if there'll be a companion that isn't fond of Cole, or Cole doesn't like them, and he makes them forget and not see him. That could be interesting...

Oh I can totally see many characters having issues with Cole just from a small tidbit on them. I don't think Cassandra would have any of him since she's set to be very untrusting of peoples words. Not sure about Vivienne, since she's a pro mage and all and Cole seems to lean way more to the Mages (though I think it was just because of the past history with Templars he had that makes him very anti Temps, I don't think he actually cares about the situation, and only cares about the people involved) and who knows about the characters we barely have any information on with how they would act around him. 

 

Though, I do see him getting possibly either well with Solas, or really badly since Solas is a mage who studies the Fade right? Coles going to be like, candy to him or something. (I do see Cole getting along well with both him and Varric though. Varric was like, everyone's dad in DAII, protective and nice to the clearly more fragile characters. May have been looking too much into the placement of the characters in the group shot, but it looks like he's hanging out behind people he would rather be around vs those he wouldn't feel 'safe' with)

[Fenwulf]

All I got to say is that the first encounter with him better be a good one and make me interested in seeing how he develops, because as of right now, he's getting a one way trip back to the Fade.  He's a demon.  I hate the templars and the chantry a whole lot, but I hate demons more.  My magequisitor will be happy to see one less demon/abom walking Thedas.

[Omikuji]

All I got to say is that the first encounter with him better be a good one and make me interested in seeing how he develops, because as of right now, he's getting a one way trip back to the Fade.  He's a demon.  I hate the templars and the chantry a whole lot, but I hate demons more.  My magequisitor will be happy to see one less demon/abom walking Thedas.

Actually, we don't know if he's a demon. He's some sort of giant grey question mark of a spiritual being that makes no sense and no answers about him.  So he could very well not be a demon, they have said a number of times in the book that he does not have the same feeling as a demon does (from more then one source), and he could very well have been a spirit like Justice or the thing in Wynne. 

[Faerah]

I'm going to guess Varric will be nice to Cole for sure. The rest I'm not entirely sure, maybe just because we don't know that much about them yet. I bet at the very least Solas and DHMG (if he's Dorian) will be curious or fascinated by Cole, but I'm not sure how friendly they'd be. I suppose we'll have to see. I sort of also can't wait for how Sera (which I sort of nicknamed "vulgar elf" because of that one concept art) interacts with Cole...

[leaguer of one]

I always assumed Lambert's ability to sense Cole had something to do with him being a Seeker. Templars have special abilities, so I'm hoping Seekers have some unique abilities that distinguish them from Templars.

None of them have the power to sense spirit's.

[Fenwulf]

Actually, we don't know if he's a demon. He's some sort of giant grey question mark of a spiritual being that makes no sense and no answers about him.  So he could very well not be a demon, they have said a number of times in the book that he does not have the same feeling as a demon does (from more then one source), and he could very well have been a spirit like Justice or the thing in Wynne. 

 

While you can try to argue things like this, there is one thing we do know, and that is, this thing is not Cole.  Cole is dead.  Died a long time ago. This thing is some kind of spirit that heeded Cole's call for help, and was with him as he died.  This same theme is what was repeated each time it killed someone:  they desperately knew they were going to die and called for help.  It acts exactly how a spirits who come to the material world act, as if it does not fully comprehend what it is encountering.  It is not a person possessed, as that would require a human body and Coles' body was long since disposed of.   Whatever it was at first is no longer the issue, what it has become is a demon.  A fully fleshed out demon, not just projecting itself into the mind of a person, that is walking around Thedas.  This and of itself is a real problem, but also there is the fact that yes, due to the influence of Rhys, it seems to be trying to make itself into a person.  For me, this is just a non-issue.  I see all spirits as very dangerous things.  Using your example, Justice made Anders blow up the Chantry, killing many people, all in the pursuit of justice.  Supposedly a virtue.  It proved that this "spirit" was in fact more dangerous than many so-called "demons."

 

So ya, for me it will all depend on how Cole is depicted in the first encounter with him in the game, or I am sending him right back to the fade with a one-way ticket.

[Gikia-Kimikia]

Buh. Why in the world would they want to romance him other then he's oftly pretty? He's got a child mentality, he has so many issues with processing that sort of thing that in the book he was more like he was 12 in voice but older in body. DX

 

Oh I can totally see many characters having issues with Cole just from a small tidbit on them. I don't think Cassandra would have any of him since she's set to be very untrusting of peoples words. Not sure about Vivienne, since she's a pro mage and all and Cole seems to lean way more to the Mages (though I think it was just because of the past history with Templars he had that makes him very anti Temps, I don't think he actually cares about the situation, and only cares about the people involved) and who knows about the characters we barely have any information on with how they would act around him. 

 

Though, I do see him getting possibly either well with Solas, or really badly since Solas is a mage who studies the Fade right? Coles going to be like, candy to him or something. (I do see Cole getting along well with both him and Varric though. Varric was like, everyone's dad in DAII, protective and nice to the clearly more fragile characters. May have been looking too much into the placement of the characters in the group shot, but it looks like he's hanging out behind people he would rather be around vs those he wouldn't feel 'safe' with)

 

Agreed on the romance front. Is he cute? Oh, yes, adorable. Do I think he's a great character? Yeah, I think he's a fascinating addition to the narrative and I can't wait to see the role he plays in all this. Do I find the prospect of romancing someone with the overall mentality of an actual child, no matter how old they look, even mildly palatable? Hell to the NO. I feel unclean just considering it, actually. I'm kind of glad Word of Gaider cleared that up. *shudders*

 

Considering that Vivienne, while she is pro-mage, is also pro-Circle, I was wondering how she'd react to Cole as well. I mean, her reasons for being pro-Circle aren't the same as, say, Wynne's, but she might have just as much of a dedication to the sort of restraint, order, and control the Circle promotes. Thus, she'd disapproving of giving free reign to Fade entities like Cole, demon, spirit, or otherwise, due to the threat they pose.

My money is on Solas getting along really well with Cole, actually, in a sort of "I find you fascinating and understand a bit more about you than everyone else" kind of way.

[sandalisthemaker]

Hopefully he'll only end up creeping  me out half as much as I think he will.

[Faerah]

Fan art by Kelgrid

[Kisari]

Agreed on the romance front. Is he cute? Oh, yes, adorable. Do I think he's a great character? Yeah, I think he's a fascinating addition to the narrative and I can't wait to see the role he plays in all this. Do I find the prospect of romancing someone with the overall mentality of an actual child, no matter how old they look, even mildly palatable? Hell to the NO. I feel unclean just considering it, actually. I'm kind of glad Word of Gaider cleared that up. *shudders*

 

Considering that Vivienne, while she is pro-mage, is also pro-Circle, I was wondering how she'd react to Cole as well. I mean, her reasons for being pro-Circle aren't the same as, say, Wynne's, but she might have just as much of a dedication to the sort of restraint, order, and control the Circle promotes. Thus, she'd disapproving of giving free reign to Fade entities like Cole, demon, spirit, or otherwise, due to the threat they pose.

My money is on Solas getting along really well with Cole, actually, in a sort of "I find you fascinating and understand a bit more about you than everyone else" kind of way.

Word of Gaider cleared what up? That he wont be romance 100%? That's fine if true I'm just curious what you meant. I haven't been stalking the forums, only his tumblr. All I see on his tumblr is Gaider saying he wrote two romances for DA:I.

[Faerah]

I don't think it was ever stated that there absolutely won't be a romance with Cole, but Gaider expressed that (paraphrasing) it's a bad idea and you should feel bad. I don't want to put words in his mouth but I will point out a few things that Gaider might have also said in those posts. Cole doesn't even really bat an eye at sex like when he sees people in the White Spire steal desperate moments together; it's inconsequential to him. Cole also had the mental capacity of a child, at least when considering things like social interaction (but don't confuse this with him being stupid). But at the same time, while in his viewpoint in Asunder, he repeatedly thinks of different female characters as pretty. I'm not sure if this just means he has an appreciation for aesthetics or if he has some underlying desire, but that's for Gaider to decide, not us. If I could remember where the sources were I'd link them, but I have honestly no idea where to start. Old forums, here, twitter; I honestly can't remember anymore, sorry. I think a lot of the "I want to romance Cole" stuff popped up after the analogy to Evan Peters' character in season 1 of American Horror Story as well...but then again almost every character in Bioware's games have overzealous fanbases like that. So it's not really surprising that people hope he's a romance.

 

Edit: if Bioware/Gaider did decide to make him a romance, I'm sort of hoping his would be an asexual one. He has the capacity to care a great deal about people he considers his friends, but I just don't know if sex really seems appropriate for his character.

[Kisari]

I don't think it was ever stated that there absolutely won't be a romance with Cole, but Gaider expressed that (paraphrasing) it's a bad idea and you should feel bad. I don't want to put words in his mouth but I will point out a few things that Gaider might have also said in those posts. Cole doesn't even really bat an eye at sex like when he sees people in the White Spire steal desperate moments together; it's inconsequential to him. Cole also had the mental capacity of a child, at least when considering things like social interaction (but don't confuse this with him being stupid). But at the same time, while in his viewpoint in Asunder, he repeatedly calls different female characters pretty. I'm not sure if this just means he has an appreciation for aesthetics or if he has some underlying desire, but that's for Gaider to decide, not us. If I could remember where the sources were I'd link them, but I have honestly no idea where to start. Old forums, here, twitter; I honestly can't remember anymore, sorry. I think a lot of the "I want to romance Cole" stuff popped up after the analogy to Evan Peters' character in season 1 of American Horror Story as well...but then again almost every character in Bioware's games have overzealous fanbases like that. So it's not really surprising.

Well the fact that Gaider is writing him is enough for me to believe he wont be romanceable. And I don't really feel too bad for considering a romance with him. I don't really see him as being very childlike considering he isn't even human and his existence is something separate from our own, and then my first introduction and forming opinions of him was simply seeing his character in the trailer. I thought, Oh! A character that isn't OLD or a bara bear(not my types)! He's the first character I had any interest in so far. Which lead me to coming here and finding more about him. Next time I go outside I plan on getting Asunder and reading it. Maybe then I'll change my mind, although I can't help but lament not being able to romance a demon. Ohwell.

I think he's very interesting regardless, and even if he isn't interested in sex doesn't mean he can't be asexual. My sister is ace and was just talking about how much she wished there was an asexual companion. Sadly I don't know who Evan Peters is and I definitely missed that fan um... happening haha.

 

 

Edit: if Bioware/Gaider did decide to make him a romance, I'm sort of hoping his would be an asexual one. He has the capacity to care a great deal about people he considers his friends, but I just don't know if sex really seems appropriate for his character.

Ah I wrote my reply and then see you edited this in! Yes I think an asexual type romance with him would be quite cute. Also I can agree with that. I play these games for the actual relationship, interactions, and bonds that you can form(I also just happen to like otomes), but I always end up skipping the sex scenes in Bioware games. As long as the relationships with them aren't lacking if you can't/don't romance them then I don't mind at all. I still love Sebastian even if he never let me in his pants.

[Faerah]

I think he's very interesting regardless, and even if he isn't interested in sex doesn't mean he can't be asexual. My sister is ace and was just talking about how much she wished there was an asexual companion. Sadly I don't know who Evan Peters is and I definitely missed that fan um... happening haha.

I edited my post I think before you posted (since it's not in your quote) and mentioned asexual. I personally probably fall into the asexual spectrum myself even though I'm happily married. I've wondered if Bioware might ever go that path, making a more in depth friendship (like a "best friend") for those who choose not to sexually romance anyone or specifically an asexual romance. With all the bells and whistles like that companion coming to rescue you (ME3 Citadel DLC), getting captured (hostage in Best Served Cold in DA2), etc. etc.

[sandalisthemaker]

Oh! A character that isn't OLD or a bara bear(not my types)! 

 

Haha!

The only character who could potentially be a bara bear is the Grey Warden, though. 

[Kisari]

Haha!

The only character who could potentially be a bara bear is the Grey Warden, though. 

I should have specified, bara OR bear haha. I think Qunari are awesome but Iron Bull is way too ripped for my taste. And yeah the Grey Warden... much bear. Eesh. Also mustaches are the worst so Dorian's out too. I feel like maybe I'm just really young or I'm just really picky. I can't tell! I think they all remind me of my dad is why, especially Solas's weird long john outfit haha. Anyways my point was mostly that I was crossing my fingers for someone a bit more youthful and it seemed like Cole would be exactly that. Gah got my hopes up for nothing!

 

 

I edited my post I think before you posted (since it's not in your quote) and mentioned asexual. I personally probably fall into the asexual spectrum myself even though I'm happily married. I've wondered if Bioware might ever go that path, making a more in depth friendship for those who choose not to sexually romance anyone or specifically an asexual romance. With all the bells and whistles like that companion coming to rescue you (ME3 Citadel DLC), getting captured (hostage in Best Served Cold in DA2), etc. etc.

Argh my edit was too slow! xD
Yes asexuality is ignored and straight up erased so much! I would really love that and thinking about it for Cole makes me happy, as it seems it would fit his character very well. I remember in Dragon's Dogma I chose to marry the Pawn dude... Bartholamew? Or something? And I did it hoping there would be something interesting with him maybe learning more about the pawns but... nope he just stands around my house saying "Thanks for saving me"
So as long as it's better than that...

[Faerah]

I generally romance characters I want to learn more about. Or if the game is lacking in extra character info, I'll choose by who adds more context. For example I like the idea of Shepard and Garrus, they both have similar backgrounds (military:military and police) and their races can have grudges against each other because of the First Contact War. Not only can they confide in each other about the war, but they're also examples of healing wounds and coming together despite old grudges. While on the other hand in DA2 I romanced Fenris mainly because I wanted to know more about his character. I suppose in a perfect world we could get all the info without having to romance, and the characters' friendship bonds and interactions can be as strong or heartbreaking as they were in ME3. We shall see where DA:I takes us. (But regardless I really want to know more about Cole)

[Nyeredzi]

I like Cole. I just want to hold him tightly to my bosom and tell him everything will be ok. :3

seems he's going to be the second Alistair, or Cullen ...lucky bastard

[Shaen Mac Tir]

I would totally appreciate if Cole was an example of asexual romance, but I doubt that Bio is going to make one soon. Now all I can think of is a really, really strong friendship. And I'm okay with that, though I think that 'freindship' is just the wrong word to describe my feelings towards this character It's like a strong bond with him, like between mother and child, or a brother and sister, or husband and wife (not underlining the absence or presence of sex relationship). I can't think of any better description than "asexual" or "platonic" love. This kind of relationship has never been portrayed in any of Bioware games, I suppose, even with all these bromances like Varric and Garrus + male PC. There was just not enough depth.

Well, or maybe I'm just being picky =) Either way, I'm very grateful to Bioware and David for their decision to put Cole into the game and in the Inquee's party.

 

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[Faerah]

Either way, I'm very grateful to Bioware and David for their decision to put Cole into the game and in the Inquee's party.

This, definitely. And yeah, that's exactly what I wish there was more of in Bioware games; platonic relationships. Edit: beyond just normal friendships, subordinates or what have you.

[Faerah]

Sometime in the next 24 hours we should get a "new" follower from Follower Fridays. It's not going to be Cassandra or Varric, so here's to hoping for Cole. (his chances are slim, but hey, we can still hope)

[Kisari]

Sometime in the next 24 hours we should get a "new" follower from Follower Fridays. It's not going to be Cassandra or Varric, so here's to hoping for Cole. (his chances are slim, but hey, we can still hope)

I reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally doubt it. I have a feeling it'll be Dorian, Sera or Iron Bull. He hasn't been featured yet, right? I mean Cole's definitely the one that is least known about and I guess we don't *technically* know it's him... haha.

[Divine Justinia V]

I'll probably protect Cole @ all costs tbh

[Shaen Mac Tir]

I foresee it will be Grey Warden today. I also foresee that we won't be seeing Cole highlighted in the nearest future, if at all... sadly.

I'll probably protect Cole @ all costs tbh

 

This. If I may speak my mind, I suppose neither Vivienne nor Cassandra will be in my head-canon party, not just because they are not to my liking (due to Viv's and Cass's personalities), but also because they are a likely threat to Cole.

But, if I'm wrong and those ladies will turn out to be better than I expect and treat Cole well, I may spare them =)

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I think Follower Friday could be anyone now that they showed us the image of the whole lineup. Before the trailer most people were guessing it would be Solas or Iron Bull, since they had the most images out. Now I'm hoping for Dorian or Cole, who had the least info out before. So many of the companions are interesting, though, to be honest I don't think I'll be disappointed no matter who they reveal. 

[Dragonborn]

I wonder how Cole joins the Inquisition. He doesn't seem like a person who runs around trying to save the world.