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AresKeith

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Darkspawn=Whitewalkers.

Gray wardens=Nightswatch.

 

Couslands = Starks/Lannisters :P



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I never thought so either. I mean, they could take some stuff as inspiration from it, but I can say the same about a hundred other fantasy stories. 

Yeah I see it as inspiration from the books more than anything, I'm sure I read somewhere that it had been said that ASOIAF inspired it...hmmm.  But as you say, they are generally common fantasy tropes.



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Are you serious? 

I wouldn't necessarily say inspired by. But they do share a few things in common. Even Mike Laidlaw has noted the similarities in the past. The biggest being that despite both being in the high fantasy genre, they are both focused primarily on the human condition. 

 

Ultimately they are about the people within the world, no gods manipulating events or choosing champions to do their bidding, the fantastical elements are all present, but not focused on so much as the human stories surrounding them.



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It's honestly easier to pass the darkspawn off as LotR orcs than the whitewalkers. Fantasy stories just usually have very similar themes.   


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There is no difference between a demon and a spirit, besides the fact that spirits embody 'good' concepts and demons embody 'evil' concepts. It lies in the eyes of the beholder to judge.

 

 

Well if a spirit can become corrupt and turn into a demon, then I'm assuming the opposite could happen

 

I don't know, can the pure incarnation of a virtue or a vice change in its core? Or do they only adapt on the surface but always stay true, even in a twisted way, to what they really are deep down ? (the risk is losing its identity).

The only exemple we had so far of a big changing was with Anders and even then, since justice and anders were actually merged, I think that nothing inexplicable happened there.



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..... He has the mind of a child


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Couslands = Starks/Lannisters :P

YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW!  Oh wait..Starks, that's ok..I can live with that...



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I read Cole's line with this voice:



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He kind of looks like Toad from X-men evolution.

 

I like it.



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YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW!

 

Family gets wiped out, has the potential to gain lots of power in the country (minus the incest) :P



#2239
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You guys are kind of getting off topic, might want to start a new thread for the tropes/comparisons conversation.


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..... He has the mind of a child

 

Then you should be thinking Iron Bull is wrong for this:

 

See, Bull is funny. He does hate demons, but if you're on the team, you're on the team. In Bull's mind, Cole is a weird squirrelly kid who just needs a night of good drinks and bad women to get him sorted out.



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Couslands = Starks/Lannisters :P

Couslands = Starks

Howe=Boltons



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Just wondering, a question to those who read the books, does Cole need to eat? Sleep? How 'real' is his body?



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I'm pretty much going to adopt Cole as my little brother.

 

If there isn't some option to hug him at some point in the game....


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Then you should be thinking Iron Bull is wrong for this:

 

See, Bull is funny. He does hate demons, but if you're on the team, you're on the team. In Bull's mind, Cole is a weird squirrelly kid who just needs a night of good drinks and bad women to get him sorted out.

 

Which sounds like Bull trying to ignore the fact that Cole is a Fade entity, which is also a reason why he wouldn't be an LI


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I'm super late to the party on this one, but regarding the discussion about whether making Cole do something terrible/go "full evil" would be a twist worth doing purely for shock value, just for the few people who were on board with the whole 'look after him' thing: I don't think there's anybody who would be genuinely suprised. Speaking for myself, I'd be disappointed in the character. But I wouldn't be suprised. The interest in the character is of knowing he's perfectly capable of doing terrible things and hoping he obtains the strength of character to not do them. Failure to do that wouldn't be a twist, just a bit of a tragic narrative.


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Just wondering, a question to those who read the books, does Cole need to eat? Sleep? How 'real' is his body?

I don't think he does. His body is corporeal, but he is still a spirit who is just appearing as a human. 



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Then you should be thinking Iron Bull is wrong for this:

 

See, Bull is funny. He does hate demons, but if you're on the team, you're on the team. In Bull's mind, Cole is a weird squirrelly kid who just needs a night of good drinks and bad women to get him sorted out.

And yes, yes I do think he's wrong for that, in fact I might even give him a slap for saying that when I meet him...



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*Snippidy*

 

Wow... Elu, I think that's a record.



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Then you should be thinking Iron Bull is wrong for this:

 

See, Bull is funny. He does hate demons, but if you're on the team, you're on the team. In Bull's mind, Cole is a weird squirrelly kid who just needs a night of good drinks and bad women to get him sorted out.

To be fair, we know he has the mind of a child because we got told so by the person who created him. Iron Bull does not have access to these forums.


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Yeah, Bull's approach to that is just as skeevy as it would be if it were a player suggesting it imo. Well-intentioned, yes, but skeevy.