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On the off website we can see icons of all three mage specialisations, though only one is unblocked
Thanks to some spyey guys in my community we already know titles for all spec...s except one of rogue spec...s
All in Russian though so I can't translate them correctly into English
No blood mage or healer this time

As I said, chances are Healing and blood magic will more be a part of that specialization. 



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The facts are all there in the first two games .If they go on and make him an Anders it'll only be because of the other fanbase. And that's all I've got to say on that topic.

I personally like Cullen and hope that he is bi so that myself (I'm gay) and my female friends can enjoy his romance. I understand that you don't like people who are this way who love the way I do but please be more respectful then to refer to me and People like me as "Other." We have feelings just as much as any straight person does and many of your comments have hurt mine. The fact is we also deserve to feel included and happy. :)

Edited because my grammar is all over the place today!
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This is what confuses me about the "fleshing out the companions" stance.  Those in the LGBTQ community can still have kids, relationships with the opposite gender (either before they came out or as a bi/pansexual person)  and go into marriages for varying reasons.  We can still have all of those discussions and do so with others in and out of our community.  So why do they need to have this careful balance again and not bisexuality, other than Realism™?

 

What balance?  If a character is bi, let them be bi.  



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Same. Mooning over exes is pretty much sex repellent. I still feel like my Shep was creeping on Steve something fierce.

 

Also one thing I don't like in exclusive romances is for some baffling reason the male LI feels the need to remind my femPC that she's a woman constantly as though she would've forgotten that fact. I know it's a weird peeve to have but by god man I'm female we know this the world knows this. STOP BRINGING IT UP LIKE I'D FORGOTTEN FOR SOME REASON. I wanted to throw Alistair into a wall the third time he did it. But like I said weird pet peeve.

 

Ah well please please let it be so only the NPCs are set and the companions care bi. I really don't want another Alistair/Morrigan scenario =/

 

Hahaha! I hadn't noticed that, but I totally get it - would be weird if that happened in real life! :P

 

Yeah fingers crossed for bi companions. If my PC wants NPC Cullen but can't have him due to being the wrong gender, at least I won't have to see him on a regular basis as he'll be at the keep. I don't want to run around with someone I can't have for a reason as silly as gender!!



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Love life and habits always influence a personality, since it is a very personal thing. What kind of people you prefer, were you ever heartbroken, rejected, tossed away...

 

A person's romantic habits aren't the same thing as sexual orientation, though.

 

Isabela and Zevran are promiscuous people. They'd be promiscuous even if they were straight or gay, because promiscuous is just who they are.

 

Cassandra is a strong, driven, no-nonsense woman of religous conviction who's dedicated her life to protecting people and serving the Chantry. That is her personality. Whether she prefers to be with men, women, or either, that doesn't conflict with her personality. 


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#506
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As long as they don't go down the "stereotypical" route and make the gay characters the most "feminine" ones, and the more masculine characters straight, in terms of male romances.

I have a bad feeling about the dramatic hand mage. lol



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Kind of makes sense to me that characters would have a sexual preference. IRL it really sucks to crush on someone who doesnt crush on you, so if I, as a straight woman, fall for a gay only character, I will be disappointed, but I will get over it.

Not having Cullen as a companion is bad enough...if it turns out he prefers men, then I will be crushed LOL!!!!!But I will get over it.

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It's hard to answer that question without involving stereotypes, both positive and negative.  Regardless, let's take a look at Vivienne as an example.  Mind you, the following is speculation based on what we know so far.  She seems to be attracted to power and status, which is why she values fashion as it is an expression of both in Orlais.  If that is truly what she values and cherishes, then it would make sense for her to be bisexual.  She doesn't care about sex or gender because power is what she looks for in partner.

 

If I knew more about the other companions, then I might be able to further elaborate, but sadly I do not.

First off, I do think you bring up a decent point.  I may not entirely agree, but thank you for elaborating on your point.  :)

 

Does bisexuality "need to make sense?"  Plenty of folks that are bi or pansexual might prefer one gender over the other, but that doesn't change who we are.

 

The only reason why a sexuality "needs to make sense" as far as I can tell.  Oh yeah.  Realism™.



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Is this concept art or an in game snapshot?

 

In game.



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Grieving Natashina

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What balance?  If a character is bi, let them be bi.  

I mean by set sexualities.  If we get a 2/2/2 with everyone neatly balanced between hetero, gay and bisexual, then I think that's even more unrealistic than a group of bi/pansexuals getting together like in DA2.


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I don't like the new approach. It limits player options. They could of just let the romances be less in-yo-face towards both genders being available. 

This is probably going to be one of the few things I don't like.

 

 

 

They are going to have A LOT to answer at the next GaymerX, that's for sure. 


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Sure, that stuff influences a personality. But the guy said that making characters a set sexuality will flesh them out more.

That implies, to me, that a character has to not only talk about his ex wife but mention somewhere in the conversation that he is straight, always was straight, always will be straight.

People can talk about their backstories all they want, but it's the "set sexuality" thing that supposedly adds to a character is what boggles my mind.

No, it means that they will have preferences and if you hit on them they may mention that they aren't into dudes or gals. And if they'll mention past live life their previous lovers will be men or women. Also like in case of Sebastian and Alistair romances it may be a cultural thing, eg they want kids, need a heir, or queen or a king as royals etc
Because weird it may seem to some folk, some people like one sex and don't like another one

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GEE, GREAT. Because when I romance someone the first thing I want to hear about is them going on and on about their past spouses and crushes?? :P

 

Anyway I don't think this makes sense... Just because a man, for instance, used to be married to a woman, doesn't mean he's straight, and doesn't mean that talking about her fleshes him out as a character.

 

Eh? Past experiences definitely flesh out a character. What's Leliana without her bard background? Morrigan without being a Witch of the Wild (which has an impact on her sexuality by the way, what with the Old God baby plan and whatnot)? Anders without his Circle experience? Fenris with being a slave? Similarily, a person having a history of being with women should have an impact on any relationship with the player. Whenever it's ''oh you're the first man I've been with'' or ''you have something I like in women'' or something to that effect. Or the character being a virgin, even.

 

I completely fail to see how that's irrelevant to a romance, people talk about that stuff with their significant others all the time.



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I hope Sera is Bi and I think the DHMG is gay but who knows for sure. I think Scribe girl will be a straight non-companion LI.



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I personally don't think sexuality has any impact on a person's personality. 

 

Quoted and bolded for emphasis an' ****.



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Hahaha! I hadn't noticed that, but I totally get it - would be weird if that happened in real life! :P

 

Yeah fingers crossed for bi companions. If my PC wants NPC Cullen but can't have him due to being the wrong gender, at least I won't have to see him on a regular basis as he'll be at the keep. I don't want to run around with someone I can't have for a reason as silly as gender!!

 

It is. I've replayed DAO not long ago and it really is making me want to kick him Amoejerk does it too (but I always want to kick him so it's just another reason to give him a kick in the nads).

 

Same. I personally wouldn't be that bothered by the NPC romances being restricted. Sucky but I wasn't really planning on talking with them that much anyway but the companions :(



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I personally like Cullen and hope that he is bi so that myself (I'm gay) and my female friends can enjoy his romance. I understand that you don't like people-or perhaps have a bias against for whatever reason- who love the way I do but please be more respectful then to refer to me and a massive group of other people as "Other." We have feelings just as much as any straight person does and many of your comments have hurt mine and we also deserve to feel included and happy. :)

And I personally would want him for females and females only. If I have hurt your feelings I am sorry . Hopefully BioWare will make us both happy.



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I mean by set sexualities.  If we get a 2/2/2 with everyone neatly balanced between hetero, gay and bisexual, then I think that's even more unrealistic than a group of bi/pansexuals getting together like in DA2.

 

I happen to disagree.  I think it would feel less artificial.  But the whole issue at this point is less important to me than it once was.

 

But in any case, if DAI does go 2/2/2 is it really any more restrictive than the bi/playersexual route of DA2?  Everyone gets the same number of options (4) and there are actually more potential LI to encourage greater replayability.



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So no more playersexuality BS then? Fantastic! You're doing the right thing Bioware, keep it up.



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It's hard to answer that question without involving stereotypes, both positive and negative.  Regardless, let's take a look at Vivienne as an example.  Mind you, the following is speculation based on what we know so far.  She seems to be attracted to power and status, which is why she values fashion as it is an expression of both in Orlais.  If that is truly what she values and cherishes, then it would make sense for her to be bisexual.  She doesn't care about sex or gender because power is what she looks for in partner.

 

If I knew more about the other companions, then I might be able to further elaborate, but sadly I do not.

 

Hmm I'm not sure what you mean in relation to my post... I was trying to get across that I think the notion of sexuality being cemented somehow adds character depth is strange to say the least.

 

Your example almost makes it seem like you think powerful women are automatically bisexual, or women who like fashion are bisexual?



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Eh? Past experiences definitely flesh out a character. What's Leliana without her bard background? Morrigan without being a Witch of the Wild (which has an impact on her sexuality by the way, what with the Old God baby plan and whatnot)? Anders without his Circle experience? Fenris with being a slave? Similarily, a person having a history of being with women should have an impact on any relationship with the player. Whenever it's ''oh you're the first man I've been with'' or ''you have something I like in women'' or something to that effect. Or the character being a virgin, even.

 

I completely fail to see how that's irrelevant to a romance, people talk about that stuff with their significant others all the time.

Okay, with the OBG, there are lesbians that get pregnant and I doubt that artificial insemination would have been available to Morrigan.  So that doesn't say squat about her sexuality, other than she doesn't mind being with men.  Anders and his Circle experience is barely talked about, even less to a female Hawke.  He more mentions "everyone kissing everyone," a detail they could have left out and impacted his character none at all.  Fenris being a slave has zero to do with his sexuality, unless you're talking about Decimus using him.  

 

Alistair being a virgin certainly didn't impact the player much, at least not me.  He was shy for about 4 lines of dialogue, then suddenly he was hailed as fantastic in bed and my PC was being told to keep it down.  I'm still not seeing how making them have set sexualities fleshes out their characterization anymore than if they were playersexual/pansexual.  They can talk about those experiences, but how does that make them more rounded out?  I'm failing to understand this.


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#523
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And I personally would want him for females and females only. If I have hurt your feelings I am sorry . Hopefully BioWare will make us both happy.

I don't understand why you would want to take away the ability to romance Cullen for guys? Like...it wouldn't effect you. At all. So why does it matter?



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The main problem, for me, is that 2/2/2 is just an assumption. 


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I don't like the new approach. It limits player options. They could of just let the romances be less in-yo-face towards both genders being available. 
This is probably going to be one of the few things I don't like.
 
 
 
They are going to have A LOT to answer at the next GaymerX, that's for sure.


Right Eric I understand where you are coming from but that doesn't necessarily mean we aren't going to be treated equally and that the gay romances won't be just as good as the straight ones! It's the dragon age Bioware teams game just like it's ours and I doubt they would make a game that goes out of its way to offended or cheat the gay community. These guys are known for being inclusive, I seriously doubt they would throw that away :)