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[Battlebloodmage]

Well, I'm a straight female and I am absolutely NOT OKAY with 1 of my 2 choices being an NPC who cannot accompany my Inquisitor. If true, I think that will be absolutely awful, and the biggest disappointment I have ever had to face in a DA game. It will also feel like what happened to FemShep in ME3 where she was totally shafted as far as romances went. Not fair at all.

I'm asking because Cullen is definitely be available to straight females. While it's disappointed personally for me, it would also mean that both LIs for gay inquisitor are companions. I feel like it wouldn't be fair for the female gamers. That would I feel like the best compromise would have had Cullen as a bisexual character.

 

While the distribution in ME3 were unfair, the "main" romance are actually even. I'm referring to the ones with in-depth romance and love scenes

Straight: Tali, Ashley, Liara

Gay: Cortez Kaidan

Lesbian: Samantha, Liara

Straight Garrus, Kaidan

 

So everyone has 2 except for straight males who had 3. 

[Former_Fiend]

A person's romantic habits aren't the same thing as sexual orientation, though.

 

Isabela and Zevran are promiscuous people. They'd be promiscuous even if they were straight or gay, because promiscuous is just who they are.

 

Cassandra is a strong, driven, no-nonsense woman of religous conviction who's dedicated her life to protecting people and serving the Chantry. That is her personality. Whether she prefers to be with men, women, or either, that doesn't conflict with her personality. 

 

Self quoting here because this got knocked off the last page by Allan taking the chainsaw to this thread(Keep up the good job, Allan).

 

I just don't see how a character's sexuality impacts the core of who they are. It's a big part of a person, I'm not denying that, but a person of any sexuality can still have the full range of personalities that make up the human condition.

[Ryzaki]

Okay, with the OBG, there are lesbians that get pregnant and I doubt that artificial insemination would have been available to Morrigan.  So that doesn't say squat about her sexuality, other than she doesn't mind being with men.  Anders and his Circle experience is barely talked about, even less to a female Hawke.  He more mentions "everyone kissing everyone," a detail they could have left out and impacted his character none at all.  Fenris being a slave has zero to do with his sexuality, unless you're talking about Decimus using him.  

 

Alistair being a virgin certainly didn't impact the player much, at least not me.  He was shy for about 4 lines of dialogue, then suddenly he was hailed as fantastic in bed and my PC was being told to keep it down.  I'm still not seeing how making them have set sexualities fleshes out their characterization anymore than if they were playersexual/pansexual.  They can talk about those experiences, but how does that make them more rounded out?  I'm failing to understand this.

 

Not even then. Someone raping you has absolutely nothing to do with your sexuality.

 

XD to be fair Zevran suggests he has pretty bad stamina (which is expected really).

 

 

 

Self quoting here because this got knocked off the last page by Allan taking the chainsaw to this thread(Keep up the good job, Allan).

 

I just don't see how a character's sexuality impacts the core of who they are. It's a big part of a person, I'm not denying that, but a person of any sexuality can still have the full range of personalities that make up the human condition.

 

agreed.

[Mes]

Eh? Past experiences definitely flesh out a character. What's Leliana without her bard background? Morrigan without being a Witch of the Wild (which has an impact on her sexuality by the way, what with the Old God baby plan and whatnot)? Anders without his Circle experience? Fenris with being a slave? Similarily, a person having a history of being with women should have an impact on any relationship with the player. Whenever it's ''oh you're the first man I've been with'' or ''you have something I like in women'' or something to that effect. Or the character being a virgin, even.

 

I completely fail to see how that's irrelevant to a romance, people talk about that stuff with their significant others all the time.

 

I've already replied to others who have said something very similar, like two or three times. Have a look through the pages if you're still curious, though I won't blame you if you don't - thread moves fast.

[KaiserShep]

Without knowing the specifics, I can't really say that this is necessarily bad news, but in and of itself, I don't really see what's good about it either. Things like character development and friendship can be perfectly independent of romance anyway. As an example, the problem with Anders on the Carl issue was not so much because of the "playersexual" nature of the companions, but rather that this content was simply barred from female players. It could have easily been included, and I find it a bit baffling that it was. I suspect that this was to give the illusion that he was straight for F!Hawke, but I could be wrong (but I don't believe that I am, but whatever).

[Br3admax]

I'm completely okay and agree with this decision. 

[Maria Caliban]

It's hard to answer that question without involving stereotypes, both positive and negative.  Regardless, let's take a look at Vivienne as an example.  Mind you, the following is speculation based on what we know so far.  She seems to be attracted to power and status, which is why she values fashion as it is an expression of both in Orlais.  If that is truly what she values and cherishes, then it would make sense for her to be bisexual.  She doesn't care about sex or gender because power is what she looks for in partner.
 
If I knew more about the other companions, then I might be able to further elaborate, but sadly I do not.

Before Dragon Age: Origins came out, many people claimed that Morrigan would be the bisexual one because she wanted power. Leliana would be straight because she was sweet and religious.


No, it doesn't "make sense." Being bisexual has nothing to do with one's desire for power.

[Iakus]

The main problem, for me, is that 2/2/2 is just an assumption. 

 

It is.  But I think it's safe to assume that Bioware at least tried to create as equal a spread of possible LIs as possible.  And 2/2/2 has been talked about for a good long time.  It's a valid hypothesis that something like this was used.  But we really don't know yet. 

[cartographer]

Hello. Long time reader, first-time poster.

 

I was wondering if some of my fellow readers could clarify some things for me.

 

The 2/2/2 split is for six romances total, correct. I know it seems obvious but I wanted to make sure, basically the idea being one straight option and one gay option per gender with two bisexual options, so each character has "access" to four total? I believe this is what people are talking about but I wanted to make sure.

 

Also, is six romances the general assumption? Why?

 

Thank you for your help. 

[Ricky Rozay]

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[Hanako Ikezawa]

I'm completely okay and agree with this decision. 

Hinata would never be okay with limiting the choices of people. You don't deserve her as an avatar.

[Bugsie]

No one has answered this yes. Are straight girls actually okay with their straight LI be an NPC who has less overall contents and can't be taken on quests? The random kissing and random talks on the road are back now, so I feel like an NPC would miss out on a lot. We also can't ask for their opinions or how they react to different situations.
 

Personally, I depends on my overall impression of the game.  Quality over quantity.  Even if I get to the end of the game and think 'it would have been nice to have 2x the content with my LI' if the whole game is awesome I doubt it would worry me too much.  And again - if the whole game is awesome it makes it more replayable for me and I can try other LI.

 

I think the whole thing with set sexualities (for me personally) is that I don't have a lot of time for gaming generally because of my work and family committments so if the game isn't as good as I hoped I'd be less inclined to go through and do a whole new playthrough, all I'd want to do is go back and try and romance someone else, just to see, which isn't possible if I am, for example, playing a femquisitor and want to romance a character that isn't available to me.  But, I don't think I'm going to worry to much about it till I've played it.

[Battlebloodmage]

I don't understand why you would want to take away the ability to romance Cullen for guys? Like...it wouldn't effect you. At all. So why does it matter?

Geez, I still see those irritating white bar. I wish it would just disappear. 

[Br3admax]

Hinata would never be okay with limiting the choices of people. You don't deserve her as an avatar.

Hinata would never make a company do anything they didn't want to just to please people's selfish desires, and would be okay with them making their own decisions. 

[Grieving Natashina]

I happen to disagree.  I think it would feel less artificial.  But the whole issue at this point is less important to me than it once was.

 

But in any case, if DAI does go 2/2/2 is it really any more restrictive than the bi/playersexual route of DA2?  Everyone gets the same number of options (4) and there are actually more potential LI to encourage greater replayability.

Yes, because a perfectly balanced group of sexuality isn't "realistic" anymore than a group of all pansexuals are.  Why go with the choice that restricts the player when there is no reason to do so?  All those details about relationships and family could be had regardless of a set sexuality.  For the sake of Realism™ in a fantasy game?  What???

 

Set sexualities don't add replay value to me, they make me feel like I have to roll another gender just to see more romance content.  You see it as encouraging replayablity; I see it as discouraging mine.  You see such a perfect balance as realistic, I see it as stating that my sexuality and my friends (and others too) is unrealistic. 

[Kirrahe1]

Actually forget that I asked because no matter what it could turn into a fight and I don't want that!

[Nocte ad Mortem]

It is.  But I think it's safe to assume that Bioware at least tried to create as equal a spread of possible LIs as possible.  And 2/2/2 has been talked about for a good long time.  It's a valid hypothesis that something like this was used.  But we really don't know yet. 

Talked about by who? Because in another thread today nobody could find a single reference to 2/2/2 by an actual dev. The only thing anyone could link was vague hints at "some" restrictions.

 

It's never happened in a game before, so "safe to assume" seems pretty extreme, to me.

[Jackums]

I have a bad feeling about the dramatic hand mage. lol

I'd prefer him to Solas, TBH. But I can see that happening.

As long as I get Cullen as a male romance option, I'll be fine.

I'm assuming both Varric and Iron Bull will be straight.

 

We'll see.

[Ryzaki]

With this in mind. I'd hope the devs would at least say which gender Inquisitor can romance who instead of saying X is romance able.

[PinkDiamondstl]

I don't understand why you would want to take away the ability to romance Cullen for guys? Like...it wouldn't effect you. At all. So why does it matter?

It matters .Just like what someone said about Anders and Karl .Now if given the option what if Anders could have told Femal Hawke that he's been with another male ? I would't want him as my LI. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Hinata would never make a company do anything they didn't want to just to please people's selfish desires, and would be okay with them making their own decisions. 

Touche.

 

Still second worst Inquisition news(Nothing will beat 'No City Elf background' for me).

[Jynxed_]

It matters .Just like what someone said about Anders and Karl .Now if given the option what if Anders could have told Femal Hawke that he's been with another male ? I would't want him as my LI. 

So what your saying is you don't want to date Cullen, if he also liked guys?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

With this in mind. I'd hope the devs would at least say which gender Inquisitor can romance who instead of saying X is romance able.

They showed all 9 companions in the trailer, so they might as well get all the LI stuff out now.

[Urazz]

I'm personally happy about this as it does add in some replayability to the game and give you reason to play differently in those other playthroughs.  DA2 with it's playersexual companions didn't help with that.  It also adds in some more depth to the character of the companion you are attempting to romance as they have things they like and dislike.

 

For example, I'm going to play a human male inquisitor in my first playthrough but I'll play a qunari female inquisitor in the next one if she will be able to romance Iron Bull.

[Bekkael]

I'm asking because Cullen is definitely be available to straight females. While it's disappointed personally for me, it would also mean that both LIs for gay inquisitor are companions. I feel like it wouldn't be fair for the female gamers. That would I feel like the best compromise would have had Cullen as a bisexual character.

 

While the distribution in ME3 were unfair, the "main" romance are actually even. I'm referring to the ones with in-depth romance and love scenes

Straight: Tali, Ashley, Liara

Gay: Cortez Kaidan

Lesbian: Samantha, Liara

Straight Garrus, Kaidan

 

So everyone has 2 except for straight males who had 3. 

 

I think everyone having the same shot at all romances is fair. Which is why I think it works best for romances to be playersexual. Why lock off content? It really makes no sense to me at all. Playersexual for everyone, and then none of us have to be sad that we can't romance whomever we like.