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[Grieving Natashina]

Not even then. Someone raping you has absolutely nothing to do with your sexuality.

 

 

No arguments from me, I was just adding that in case that was where the poster was heading with him.

[Ryzaki]

Yes, because first, a perfectly balanced group of sexuality isn't "realistic" anymore than a group of all pansexuals are.  Why go with the choice that restricts the player when there is no reason to do so?  All those details about relationships and family could be had regardless of a set sexuality.  For the sake of Realism™ in a fantasy game?  What???

 

Set sexualities don't add replay value to me, they make me feel like I have to roll another gender just to see more romance content.  You see it as encouraging replayablity; I see it as discouraging mine.  You see such a perfect balance as realistic, I see it as stating that my sexuality and my friends (and others too) is unrealistic. 

 

Not to mention I really don't see why people say it encourages replayability you can only do one romance per game even if you manage to sleep with everyone you can their romance isn't going to complete. If I'm going to replay as a different gender it's going to be for far more than 20 minutes of content.

[Allan Schumacher]

Returning to your roots is not always the best policy. Most countries used to own slaves, but don't anymore. Doesn't mean they should go back to doing so. I know that is a hyperbole, but it easily sends what I mean.

 

I wouldn't consider what we're doing in DAI to be a "return to BioWare's roots" either.

[KaiserShep]

Touche.

 

Still second worst Inquisition news(Nothing will beat 'No City Elf' background for me).

 

I haven't been following all the details very closely so maybe this has been explained somewhere else, but I'm really curious as to whether or not the game will have a good reason why there are no City Elves available. It could have something to do with the nature of the Inquisitor's discovery, but who knows.

[Ryzaki]

No arguments from me, I was just adding that in case that was where the poster was heading with him.

 

XD I had a really nasty argument before with a poster saying something similar. Trying to nip that in the bud as it were.

 

So much no.

[PinkDiamondstl]

So what your saying is you don't want to date Cullen, if he also liked guys?

Yep pretty much..creeps me out ...

[TheJediSaint]

I wouldn't consider what we're doing in DAI to be a "return to BioWare's roots" either.

 

How about Shattered Steel 2?

[Maria Caliban]

I wouldn't consider what we're doing in DAI to be a "return to BioWare's roots" either.

Part of me hopes that the quote refers to something more interesting than just being attracted to only men or only women.

[AresKeith]

The main problem, for me, is that 2/2/2 is just an assumption. 

 

It's an assumption based on what David Gaider said about wanted an equal set

[sandalisthemaker]

I wouldn't consider what we're doing in DAI to be a "return to BioWare's roots" either.

 

This is encouraging...

[Jynxed_]

Yep pretty much..creeps me out ...

Right. Don't wanna argue, so good luck with that.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I wouldn't consider what we're doing in DAI to be a "return to BioWare's roots" either.

True. Having pure homosexual characters as LIs isn't since so far only ME3 has done that. I was just responding to the person who said return to their roots.

[Allan Schumacher]

I was about to joke that it made it easier to find your way around it, but then I remembered that I'm so bad at directions that I got lost in it several times anyway...

 

Hah!  I'm not sure that'd be the case, since the minmap still showed the full map

[Giantdeathrobot]

Okay, with the OBG, there are lesbians that get pregnant and I doubt that artificial insemination would have been available to Morrigan.  So that doesn't say squat about her sexuality, other than she doesn't mind being with men.  Anders and his Circle experience is barely talked about, even less to a female Hawke.  He more mentions "everyone kissing everyone," a detail they could have left out and impacted his character none at all.  Fenris being a slave has zero to do with his sexuality, unless you're talking about Decimus using him.  

 

Alistair being a virgin certainly didn't impact the player much, at least not me.  He was shy for about 4 lines of dialogue, then suddenly he was hailed as fantastic in bed and my PC was being told to keep it down.  I'm still not seeing how making them have set sexualities fleshes out their characterization anymore than if they were playersexual/pansexual.  They can talk about those experiences, but how does that make them more rounded out?  I'm failing to understand this.

 

Not a big deal for you =/= not a big deal for everyone, you know. And my point was more that any past experience shapes an individual, sexuality and relationships being part of said experiences. Throwing that into the wind and going ''meh, doesn't matter, s/he's hot so shag away'' seems more shallow to me. Plus, it may be that the scenarios you mention are stuff they want to avoid.

 

I mean, personally I found absolutely none of the romanceable characters in DA2 interesting. So for my play experience, playersexual or set sexuality would not have changed anything.

 

Ultimately, the only ones who have any say in the matter are Bioware, and the ones they need to satisfy is themselves. They are under no obligation whatsoever to bend over to a subset of fans over the other. If they decide it's like that, it's like that. Whenever people like it or not is a different issue. But I'd wait until we see details before going ballistic over them not letting us love this amalgam of pixels over that one.

[Grieving Natashina]

I wouldn't consider what we're doing in DAI to be a "return to BioWare's roots" either.

Hina feels (and I agree) that in this regard the romances are returning to it's Dragon Age roots of set romances.  And for some, including her and I, that's not a good thing.

 

While you're here, I did want to thank you for sticking around this thread.  I'm sure when it came up in the office that this information was going to be released this week, you drew the short straw and are dealing with us now. Or you are a masochist that loves his work and BW's fan too much and volunteered to play referee on the forums.

 

Or all of the above.  

 

It does mean a lot that you're trying to keep this thread open while we wail or celebrate this news.  Again, thank you.

[Chanda]

Isn't it crazy how something that is such a small side-dish like romance in a game, is one of the biggest things that fans seem to focus on in the game? "Is it a companion? Can I romance it?" YES - Cue the squee and haters alike. NO - Cue the squee and haters alike.

 

 

I'm guilty of it too. But it's like Bioware has that niche, and that's what they're known for, great companions, and hopefully great romances.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I haven't been following all the details very closely so maybe this has been explained somewhere else, but I'm really curious as to whether or not the game will have a good reason why there are no City Elves available. It could have something to do with the nature of the Inquisitor's discovery, but who knows.

No, they have given no ingame reason for why people who want to play as Elves are stuck with Dalish yet.

[AlanC9]

I wouldn't consider what we're doing in DAI to be a "return to BioWare's roots" either.

 

 

You mean DAI isn't going to be 2D and AD&D-based? Preorder cancelled!

[Ryzaki]

Well...this puts the reaction of this news into perspective.

 

You didn't expect this? Really? You of all people?

[AresKeith]

I haven't been following all the details very closely so maybe this has been explained somewhere else, but I'm really curious as to whether or not the game will have a good reason why there are no City Elves available. It could have something to do with the nature of the Inquisitor's discovery, but who knows.

 

Still would've loved to have atleast a City Elf Rogue 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Isn't it crazy how something that is such a small side-dish like romance in a game, is one of the biggest things that fans seem to focus on in the game? "Is it a companion? Can I romance it?" YES - Cue the squee and haters alike. NO - Cue the squee and haters alike.

 

 

I'm guilty of it too. But it's like Bioware has that niche, and that's what they're known for, great companions, and hopefully great romances.

I think it's because it is unique. Barely any games have romance subplots, and most of those that do aren't nearly as developed as Bioware has been with them. 

[wetnasty]

I'm asking because Cullen is definitely be available to straight females. While it's disappointed personally for me, it would also mean that both LIs for gay inquisitor are companions. I feel like it wouldn't be fair for the female gamers. That would I feel like the best compromise would have had Cullen as a bisexual character.

 

While the distribution in ME3 were unfair, the "main" romance are actually even. I'm referring to the ones with in-depth romance and love scenes

Straight: Tali, Ashley, Liara

Gay: Cortez Kaidan

Lesbian: Samantha, Liara

Straight Garrus, Kaidan

 

So everyone has 2 except for straight males who had 3. 

 

You seem to be ignoring the ones from ME2 that carried over.

 

I'm guessing it throws your tally off, which is why you chose to omit them.

 

Straight: Jack, Miranda, Kelly (Unavailable after 2), Diana, Samara, Morinth

Gay: NONE (0)
"Lesbian": Kelly, Samara, Morinth, Diana
Straight: Jacob (cheats on you) Thane (dies)

 

Giving straight male and gay female shep 3 additional ones to end up with... and 0 for Straight fem shep and gay male shep. So 6, 2, 3, 2 to be exact.

 

That is NOT balanced.

[Former_Fiend]

It matters .Just like what someone said about Anders and Karl .Now if given the option what if Anders could have told Femal Hawke that he's been with another male ? I would't want him as my LI. 

 

I think this raises a very good point in regards to the limiting LI's in favor of realism thing.

 

It's impossible.

 

Maybe if they had... let's be conservative here and say 100 Li's, then they could craft something that could be a reflection of reality. 

 

There are people, both straight and gay, who refuse to enter into relationships with bisexuals. There are people who refuse to enter into relationships with members of other races. There are people who refuse to enter into relationships with people of the same race. There are people who refuse to enter into a relationship with others based on their religious preferences.

 

That's just the tip of the iceberg.

 

Covering the full spectrum of what limits a person's preferences in a romantic partner is an exorcise in futility.

[Ryzaki]

No, they have given no ingame reason for why people who want to play as Elves are stuck with Dalish yet.

 

CE too poor to go to the peace conference?

 

Bad guess I know. D:

 

Honestly if we're getting into gender restrictiosn can we please not get nonsense like Morrigan being okay with my white knights? Some racial restrictions should apply too if we're going to BW's roots (god I hated BG2's romances).

 

Qunari female doesn't want no man, Qunari female doesn't need no man~