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That's all well and good, if all characters are created equal where quality is concerned. But even good quality characters aren't going to appeal to everyone because some personalities just rub you the wrong way. So you have to get lucky. Maybe the companion you like the best is one you can romance, and maybe you're up the creek.
It's a crap-shoot. I don't like crap-shoots.
Like you're not going to run all over the place complaining about Cullen when you learn he likes the D.All of this moaning and groaning won't change a single thing it's done .So why continue on like this?
Are ya'll gonna try to define butch now? Because in the eye of the beholder and all that. I would prefer to look at the strength of the personality when it comes to defining people.
Sure bioware gives us the power to sway and change our companions through our words and actions. If we can change the way a companion views things... is it really that far of a stretch to think that that those same companions could change their sexual interest? I'm not saying all of them would but...
Are the developers trying to tell us that any one persons sexual preference is set in stone and that there would never be a chance that the right person may sway us from our preconceived notions of our sexual preference?
How many people stick by their sexual preference dispite having fallen in love with somebody outside of that sexual preference?
All of this moaning and groaning won't change a single thing it's done .So why continue on like this?
It's called having discussions. Because people like talking about things. I know - crazy, right?
I'm actually happy with this news. I couldn't take any DA2 romances seriously because everyone was bi, i prefer the way DA:O (no i'm not talking about presents) and ME3 was handled.
All of this moaning and groaning won't change a single thing it's done .So why continue on like this?
? Because people want to discuss it? There's nothing wrong with that.
I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed. For whatever reason I can never get into male characters, and this means I'll probably never see those romances unless I watch them online. I barely made it through one playthrough of Witcher and Witcher 2. I've still got my only male warden from DAO that I always meant to finish so I could actually see the Morrigan romance sitting outside Ostagar (even though I have at least 6+ completed playthroughs for female characters.) I got my one male shep about 1/2 through ME2 (and don't ask me how many femsheps I've finished - I lost count.)I personally prefer to play a character as an extension of myself. (Some characters may have more attitude than others.)
I'm not saying how others play is wrong and I respect that many people can play both male and female. I just can't force myself to play a male character when there's a female option. Now, having said that, I'm still super excited about the rest of the game.
All of this moaning and groaning won't change a single thing it's done .So why continue on like this?
Yeah, what is this, some kind of fan forum?
All of this moaning and groaning won't change a single thing it's done .So why continue on like this?
People said the same thing about the Human-Only Inquisitor. 
I'm quite happy with this. I'll roll a male inquisitor if there's someone I want to romance who I can't as a female. It's not a huge deal. Different people ARE different sexualities. I may be bisexual but I realize it takes all types and I've always felt uncomfortable with making a character's sexuality completely player-dependant. It makes them seem less like real people with their own wants and desires. There should be gay characters, bi characters and straight characters. Such is life.
Same here. I was reluctant to play a male when I first started playing DAO but I tried it to romance Morrigan- and much to my surprise I enjoyed it! I'm just glad that (from what I've seen from the videos) I like the male VA- if he was like the male Hawke VA it would be very hard for me to play since I didn't like his voice that much. I'll play through as a female first and try all the romance options- then as a male- more replayability is a bonus for me. *please excuse any typos or grammar or other mistakes. I've had some wine and typing is rather more difficult than usual*
All of this moaning and groaning won't change a single thing it's done .So why continue on like this?
Amazingly, this comment works both ways. Nothing you say is going to stop people from having opinions that differ from yours, nor will it stop them from wanting to discuss these opinions.
Sure bioware gives us the power to sway and change our companions through our words and actions. If we can change the way a companion views things... is it really that far of a stretch to think that that those same companions could change their sexual interest? I'm not saying all of them would but...
Are the developers trying to tell us that any one persons sexual preference is set in stone and that there would never be a chance that the right person may sway us from our preconceived notions of our sexual preference?
Ooh, I love how you said this.
I'm straight but dang I'm not a pre-programmed robot. I'm human and can expand my horizons for the right person. That's "reality," folks.
BINGO.
Which is part of the reason why this limitation irritates me - they are limiting player choices by trying to enforce a very small character detail, so what's the point?
Because regardless of how you feel about sexual orientations, it's not common that you run into 9-12 people who all happen to be bisexual. Maybe "unrealistic" isn't the right word, but it's certainly not typical of the people you would meet in real life. You may have 9 or 12 awesomely badass friends, but I highly doubt that even half of them are the same sexual orientation. One of the amazing aspects about people in general, is that two individuals can be vastly different from one another. Like Samara said, "If there are three humans in a room, there will be six opinions." The idea that the sexual orientation of that many people would be exactly the same strikes me as unlikely, even in the fantasy setting of Dragon Age.
I remember david saying that not every companion would be romanceable..
did he mean this? the gender thing? :0a cause I always assumed he meant people like, solas, or or vivienne not being romanceable
Because regardless of how you feel about sexual orientations, it's not common that you run into 9-12 people who all happen to be bisexual. Maybe "unrealistic" isn't the right word, but it's certainly not typical of the people you would meet in real life. You may have 9 or 12 awesomely badass friends, but I highly doubt that even half of them are the same sexual orientation. One of the amazing aspects about people in general, is that two individuals can be vastly different from one another. Like Samara said, "If there are three humans in a room, there will be six opinions." The idea that the sexual orientation of that many people would be exactly the same strikes me as unlikely, even in the fantasy setting of Dragon Age.
Lol I think you and I are starting to have trouble communicating. I don't think your reply has much to do with my post. I blame this thread. Makes me dizzy.
You said that a character's sexuality is a minor detail. I completely agree with that. I think sacrificing players' choices for a minor detail is not a fair trade.
The more I’ve played Bioware games the more I realise that Romances are becoming less important to me. I'm not sure if there are others who feel the same or their investment in the romances is greater than the plot/characters overall (and that's okay). But I'm increasingly finding that what matters to me though is how my PC reacts within the story as a whole and to the characters presented to them regardless of whether those characters are presented within a romance, in a friendship, as comrade the heat of battle or an advisor when a tough decision needs to be made. I want good characters. And by good I mean good, bad, cowardly, caring, stupid, loving, spiteful, funny, frustrating, courageous, frail, gentle, and as much of a spectrum as possible that makes it interesting to play.
Just thoughts on my part really.
Because regardless of how you feel about sexual orientations, it's not common that you run into 9-12 people who all happen to be bisexual. Maybe "unrealistic" isn't the right word, but it's certainly not typical of the people you would meet in real life. You may have 9 or 12 awesomely badass friends, but I highly doubt that even half of them are the same sexual orientation. One of the amazing aspects about people in general, is that two individuals can be vastly different from one another. Like Samara said, "If there are three humans in a room, there will be six opinions." The idea that the sexual orientation of that many people would be exactly the same strikes me as unlikely, even in the fantasy setting of Dragon Age.
No one's asking for 9-12 people to all be bisexual.
They're asking for 4-6 people out of those 9-12 people to be bisexual, and if that's reality shaking to you, then you need to get out more.
Ooh, I love how you said this.
I'm straight but dang I'm not a pre-programmed robot. I'm human and can expand my horizons for the right person. That's "reality," folks.
I'm out of likes, but I agree with you. I'm also out of energy. Good night Mes, I'll talk to you later. 
Sure. I had read earlier, in another article, that the reason why you guys decided to go set sexualities is to "flesh out the characters outside of romance." So, a set sexuality is needed for this? There can't be conversations about marriage, kids, even spouses of either gender without making their sexuality completely defined?
It ended up feeling like, "If you're not within a totally defined sexuality, then you don't have enough personality on your own merit." It's bad enough hearing folks talking about characters that become (or just are) pansexual "cheapened" by a change of sexuality. It just felt like comments like that added fuel to those kind of fires.
Ah okay. I can understand that.
Just in the interest of disclosure, I guess where the disconnect happens is with Cameron's comment "That's definitely the goal, and we are definitely going to go out there with some characters just being one sexual orientation." Though, to me (who will stumble and bumble) I included "bisexual" as one sexual orientation when I read it.
I know sexuality is probably a bit more fluid than that (things like Kinsey Scale and whatnot), but I am hoping it's a prospect of having improved representation in the game beyond just the romances (which was something that came up when I asked people about what it was about the romances that made them so appealing).
Hopefully when the game is out and people have a chance to play it, it's not something that will be considered an overall negative (even if some people will still be disappointed because a character they really like may not be available to them).
NOOOOO! If this means Cullen is straight, my life is over! Woe is me! Goodbye cruel world!
*jumps off a bridge*
But seriously you guys, not cool. And you deliberately give no mod support to DAI, just to mess with me. I know that was the point of this whole charade, don't even try to deny it.
Because regardless of how you feel about sexual orientations, it's not common that you run into 9-12 people who all happen to be bisexual. Maybe "unrealistic" isn't the right word, but it's certainly not typical of the people you would meet in real life. You may have 9 or 12 awesomely badass friends, but I highly doubt that even half of them are the same sexual orientation. One of the amazing aspects about people in general, is that two individuals can be vastly different from one another. Like Samara said, "If there are three humans in a room, there will be six opinions." The idea that the sexual orientation of that many people would be exactly the same strikes me as unlikely, even in the fantasy setting of Dragon Age.
This is totally a matter of perspective. Maybe 4 of your 10 tightest friends aren't LGB but for lots of people that is exactly how their life is(Mine, for example). Or they know MORE THEN 4 LGB individuals. And also, why does more realism have to mean more straight people. Its just erasure, legitimately that is all it is, b/c Mass Effect 2 the straight parade isn't called unrealistic for showing no same-sex people, and the world of Mass Effect and Thedas aren't nearly as heavily criticized for not having ambient gay characters/quest givers/NPC's.
Maybe you're in favor of all that, fine, I don't want to speak for you, BUT I never see threads like that, and certainly not from the same group of people who claim realism as a shield; a shield which is often used to protect ignorant and hurtful beliefs.
? Because people want to discuss it? There's nothing wrong with that.
People stop discussing and started crying after page 3.
All of this moaning and groaning won't change a single thing it's done .So why continue on like this?
The more I’ve played Bioware games the more I realise that Romances are becoming less important to me. I'm not sure if there are others who feel the same or their investment in the romances is greater than the plot/characters overall (and that's okay). But I'm increasingly finding that what matters to me though is how my PC reacts within the story as a whole and to the characters presented to them regardless of whether those characters are presented within a romance, in a friendship, as comrade the heat of battle or an advisor when a tough decision needs to be made. I want good characters. And by good I mean good, bad, cowardly, caring, stupid, loving, spiteful, funny, frustrating, courageous, frail, gentle, and as much of a spectrum as possible that makes it interesting to play.
Just thoughts on my part really.
I can kinda agree with this.
Not that I'll say no to a potentially good romance option, if there is anyone that tickles my fancy anyway.
People stop discussing and started crying after page 3.
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