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#726
Blackrising

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People stop discussing and started crying after page 3.

 

It happens. We gotta get rid of the disappointment somehow. Talking about it tends to help.



#727
Allan Schumacher

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If your Inquisitor doesn't die, the ending cinematic is a giant Orlesan ball with Cullen served naked on a silver platter and everyone, um, digging in.

So all of them.

At once.

 

Evidently our game has been leaked somewhere... <_<


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#728
Former_Fiend

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Evidently our game has been leaked somewhere... <_<

 

You gotta plug the hole, Allan.

 

Plug it tight.


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#729
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Evidently our game has been leaked somewhere... <_<

 

I can't help but imagine Cullen being served like the Troi cake.

 

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#730
Spectre Impersonator

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You gotta plug the hole, Allan.

 

Plug it tight.

...there are just so many ways to apply this quote to this thread.



#731
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Evidently our game has been leaked somewhere... <_<

 

 

You gotta plug the hole, Allan.

 

Plug it tight.

 

 

I can't help but imagine Cullen being served like the Troi cake.

 

TroiCake101810.gif

 

 

GAHHH I'm out of likes, and at a time like this! 

 

*like*

 

*like*

 

*like*


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#732
Darth Krytie

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I can't help but imagine Cullen being served like the Troi cake.

 

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I'll raise you this:

 

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#733
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All of this moaning and groaning won't change a single thing it's done .So why continue on like this?

 

It's theraputic to grouse with like-minded people?



#734
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For me, it's not a bad thing. All the more reason to do multiple playthroughs. I enjoy playing both genders.



#735
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You gotta plug the hole, Allan.

 

Plug it tight.

As long as the plug isn't square and the hole round.



#736
PinkDiamondstl

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Like you're not going to run all over the place complaining about Cullen when you learn he likes the D.

Naw ...I'll most likely place him on the front line of the war . -_-


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#737
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I can kinda agree with this.

 

Not that I'll say no to a potentially good romance option, if there is anyone that tickles my fancy anyway.

 

Same here. I vastly prefer the personality of the characters much more than who is bangable and am more interested in seeing how the characters interact with the world and each other instead of focusing who I can get it on with.


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#738
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Lol I think you and I are starting to have trouble communicating. I don't think your reply has much to do with my post. :P I blame this thread. Makes me dizzy.

 

You said that a character's sexuality is a minor detail. I completely agree with that. I think sacrificing players' choices for a minor detail is not a fair trade. 

 

Maybe.  It's been a long day and I'm growing harried as I am scheduled for a surgery in the morning.

 

Well basically, it comes down to immersion vs. player choice.  It may be a minor detail regarding our companions, but sometimes minor details can stand out the most.  A arm clipping or "ghosting" through a torso ingame may not be very noticeable to some, but a tiny little detail like that can break immersion by reminding the player that he or she is indeed playing a game.  It's really a toss-up in terms of which personal preference Bioware would rather appease as developers, but it is ultimately their choice.  I hope that made enough sense.

 

No one's asking for 9-12 people to all be bisexual.

 

They're asking for 4-6 people out of those 9-12 people to be bisexual, and if that's reality shaking to you, then you need to get out more.

 

Fair point.  I'll admit, fatigue got the better of me and I simply didn't catch on to that idea.  However, I have not insulted, personally attacked, or been demeaning to anyone in any of my posts in this thread so far.  Implying that I don't get out enough is just flat-out rude and I don't appreciate it.  I'm all for a good debate and a civil discussion, but only if it stays civil.



#739
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Right Eric I understand where you are coming from but that doesn't necessarily mean we aren't going to be treated equally and that the gay romances won't be just as good as the straight ones! It's the dragon age Bioware teams game just like it's ours and I doubt they would make a game that goes out of its way to offended or cheat the gay community. These guys are known for being inclusive, I seriously doubt they would throw that away :)

 

True. 


We'll see what happens. I'll have hope. 



But I may require Cullen...  :whistle:



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Naw ...I'll most likely place him on the front line of the war . -_-


Shouldn't Cullen be the Bathsheba of this analogy, not the Uriah?

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Dragon Age has always been known as an open and ambiguous beast where sexuality is concerned

 

What the what? When the hell did this become dragon age's reputation? Dragon age 2 was like that yeah, but origins wasn't. The way some people phrase things, I swear.

 

Well it is not like I did no see this coming, and that statement is so wrong in so many levels, I am starting to lose interest in the game fast.

 

Personally, if you're only playing the game to get your sexual jollies rocked, I won't miss you being gone.


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#742
Allan Schumacher

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Sorry about that.

 

Your assumption is correct. How different is it to create a 2/2/2 model vs an all bisexual model?

 

Well, ignoring the big one (one has two more romances, which is a non trivial investment of time which I hope doesn't need too much explaining), I don't know if I would say that either is significantly more or less complicated/difficult.  For the bisexual lines, you're going to need to make subtle differences in lines due to pronouns, which is a check not only for IS_ROMANCED but also GENDER, and both games would have bisexual content.

 

For a non bisexual romance you only need to worry about the romance checks (though it's probably still not a bad idea to keep the gender checks in in case your design changes) past the original start of the romance.  So in this sense they are "simpler" and possibly less prone to bugs.  But it'll probably mean unique content for the cutscenes (i.e. different companions will have different contexts for their content) and stuff like that, beyond just the extra word count for the two extra characters.

 

Note that I'm not necessarily word of law on this.  Someone like David would be able to give more definitive answers, as I am only really exposed to systemic issues and don't really have the visibility on the full day to day challenges that both implementations may have.


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#743
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Just for reference (may have been posted elsewhere), this is the full interview if people wanted to get a feeling for the conversation before the romance answer.

 

http://www.ausgamers...es/read/3432915



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Well, this is unexpected news. Personally I'd hoped for the player sexual approach in DAI. I never felt uncomfortable around the companions in DA2, nor did I feel that they lacked depth because of their fluid sexualities. Personally, I romanced only the opposite gender from my character but I really liked the fact that everyone had the opportunity to experience the romance of their preference. It just seemed more inclusive or fairer to me.

Still it is what it is and I feel confident that the writers will have created interesting and engaging characters that we will enjoy getting to know even if we are unable to access the romance content. It feels like a bit of a bummer though. :(
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#745
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Sooo, if 2/2/2 is actually happening and the 6 includes 2 NPC romances then that'd mean that straight women only have 1 companion romance option (Cullen being straight or bi and one male companion being straight or bi). This...really sucks. I kinda hate NPC romances.


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#746
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But I may require Cullen...  :whistle:

 

Cullen has been bi in my Dragon Age since origins. Romanceable same sex or not in DA:Inquisition; nobody will convince me otherwise.

 

We shall see if Bioware makes my Cullen view AU or not in DA3. LOL



#747
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I would like to take a moment to thank Allan for all his contributions, clarifications, and guidance in this thread. 


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#748
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What the what? When the hell did this become dragon age's reputation? Dragon age 2 was like that yeah, but origins wasn't. The way some people phrase things, I swear.

 

 

Personally, if you're only playing the game to get your sexual jollies rocked, I won't miss you being gone.

This !

For a half of the people in this thread.



#749
Allan Schumacher

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See, the thing is, Bioware just doesn't have the best track record for this.  They have made efforts, and the DA team, in particular, is very conscious of these issues, but honestly even Origins was unsatisfactory for me.  Two straight characters who have direct impact on the plot and two non-straight ones who don't?  Zevran implying that he only slept with men because it helped with his job as an assassin?  Zevran being the cliche flirty oversexed bisexual?  

 

I want to hope they'll handle this well.  I do.  I put a lot of faith in the DA team.  But Bioware's history, coupled with how this news was presented, makes me worried.

 

I think it's perfectly valid to have concerns.  There's still a looooong time (and it probably seems even longer for some) before release so hopefully between then and with news of the content at release, it's something that you can sit back and go "I'm okay with this."  We shall see I suppose :S



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I wonder if you can replace advisors :P I hope so.