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And I have felt very offended by most of the comments made here as well . Noone here as shown any respect for my opinions .So I feel it's only fair that I return the same .
This news was better than the trailer itself and all these people do is complain.My god some fans right?
Yes, how dare they complain that something they liked in the last game will not return in this one.
Heh I got my own hopes up.
;_;
If FemQunari isn't voiced by little...this game man. I'll be so heartbroken. First the elves being *barf* Dalish now this...female Inq having a VA I don't like will be the last straw.
The Dalish thing I actually found a way to make it enjoyable for me. I'm going to make my Dalish Mage Toph from Avatar. I already have a catchphrase:
*I wonder if eye colors can pull off blind eyes*
I don't think that's accurate, at least from my perspective.
As somebody who sees DA2's approach as bisexuality, many of the claims in that article are downright nonsensical (what does "one sexual orientation" even mean), and Cameron's overall statement is borderline insulting (to me; I see chatter that indicates it is truly insulting to some). I don't think it's a disconnect in a single phrase; for me, he doesn't seem to say why explicit orientations are an improvement more than that the inclusivity of the past game was bad... because realism and stuff.
As I said in my original comment, I don't think this was the way this news should have been revealed, especially not for a team that claims to want to be welcoming to all players.
Please elaborate. Feel free to go point by point, because I want to understand as best I can.
I'm biased by my knowledge of what's in the game. I'll certainly concede that we'll be bumbling buffoons and epically fail in communicating that, but I'd like to better understand so that at the very least I can understand it better. I'll make the point this time of not assuming what part of the conversation you (or anyone else) may be referring to, since it was kind of out of place for me to say that.
Anyone else find it funny people are saying how the game is discriminating against players who choose one gender, or orientation, when we don't even know who can or can't be romanced? Let alone who they would like to hook up with?
I think we've pulled the cart so far ahead of the horse, that we're now in nevarra and we ditched the horse back in ferelden.
EDIT: I think gaider, yourself allan, or perhaps another moderator on the community could have made a thread discussing this revelation so that we could have gotten the news straight from the people in charge, instead of through a third part source. Also, it would have allowed a more moderated and less...emotionally charged discussion to unfold the way it did. It makes the community feel welcomed in posting here and gives a sense that we bioware forumites are a part of the fandom that is recognized by the company we have shown loyalty and support to.
Just my two cents in the matter.
You dared to disagree with them, or were just not 100% on board with their rage and lamentation. And unfortunately, one side in particular has made the debate so toxic by pouring their emotional baggage into the mix, that to them, you're either with them, or you hate them personally.
I strongly encourage you (and anyone similar) to vacate this thread if this discussion bothers you. I think making posts like this is just going to agitate people and I think there's plenty of misunderstanding, from myself included, to go around that I'd rather it not expand into something confrontational or adversarial.
For instance, my post to DevSin was intended to be more collaborative than adversarial, even though it's a reasonably firm position against a colleague and the company I work for.
I assure people that concerns that my time is monopolized by a particular viewpoint, and therefore the need to present dissenting viewpoints in order to ensure I am not biased in what I learn, is overstated.
All I really got from that is Allan is clearly some kind of math genius. And here I am, still counting on my fingers.
I AM GIFTED IN OTHER AREAS THOUGH. MAYBE.
Assuming we're getting four companion LI's and two NPC Li's, then I don't see the NPC's as standing in the way of the companions, considering four is all we've ever gotten in DA, not counting DLC.
Except if there's an even distribution of orientations that include the NPC romances then that is most certainly getting in the way of companions. In DA2, gay or straight, you had 2 companion options (and bi people had 4 cuz they're awesome that way). If you added an NPC romance to DA2 you'd still have that option to choose between two companions. It's the prospective lack of choice that I find really concerning, because traditionally NPC romances have not had equal content. Even if all of the romance stuff is on par with the companions, you still don't get their comments on what's going on at any given time, or party banter, or the experience of having them at your side. Therefore, you may have a choice, but that choice is not equal. It'd be like going back to the bad old days of having to put up with Carth or Anomen no matter what.
As long as there are decent LI's I'm fine with this. Thing is, they should reveal the LIs orientations, or at least, who is romanceable.
I strongly encourage you (and anyone similar) to vacate this thread if this discussion bothers you. I think making posts like this is just going to agitate people and I think there's plenty of misunderstanding, from myself included, to go around that I'd rather it not expand into something confrontational or adversarial.
For instance, my post to DevSin was intended to be more collaborative than adversarial, even though it's a reasonably firm position against a colleague and the company I work for.
I assure people that concerns that my time is monopolized by a particular viewpoint, and therefore the need to present dissenting viewpoints in order to ensure I am not biased in what I learn, is overstated.
I apologize allan, but that post was made some time ago. The topics already come about, gotten heated, and cooled down at this point to nominal levels.
I appreciate the heads up however, so thank you.
I like that characters have set sexualities, because then one can have a more fleshed out character. Races possibly, too. It's not discrimination, it's just a character's personal preference. I can easily imagine an elf having disdain for a human, for e.g...... Sexualities should not define a character (bleh to stereotypes), but a character's sexuality will affect some of his/her decisions/behaviors. Given that, I do hope that all players get equal choice. No doubt I'll check out each character and if I do like an LI, but he/she doesn't like me, I'll do another playthrough with the appropriate gender. I'd imagine it to be hellish for a dev to make player-sexual characters, and I don't like the fact of having different "versions" of followers. Sure, I'll get pissed if a character I like isn't romanceable, but that's the world that was created. I just hope it isn't the stereotypical LIs you'd expect for each gender.
I'm not too happy about the news , but I guess the DA2 "playersexual" options confused too many people.
I hope the romance won't fall too much in stereotypes , flamboyant characters are gay or bi and the straight are more "serious" .
In DAO the full straight romances were the one with the biggest story arc , Morrigan and Alistair ...
I guess we'll see.
I'm happy though friendship is going to have slightly more depth .
Anyway at worse I'm playing a forever alone Inquisitor on my first playthrough ...
To be honest I'm getting more annoyed at Bioware dancing around the romances issue for months + the whole yeah we made the cover of DAI with a pc who could be a woman or man on purpose and then realeasing trailers only with pc dudes.
It's like two step forward , one step back.
All I really got from that is Allan is clearly some kind of math genius. And here I am, still counting on my fingers.
Tbh, i didnt understand most of what hes said 
i just need a straight answer who i can romance or i will go crazy 
I know that this would be a wrench in the cogs of the hype engine, Allan, but is there any chance you could coax the other devs/writers into revealing who the LIs will be, and for whom they will be available, assuming this has been ironed out? I mean in the near future, considering few of the characters have been actually revealed yet. Or, at the very least, some idea of how NPCs and companions will be distributed across sexualities, although that seems to be a rather cold, mechanical way to go about things.
Yes, people like to speculate, but with this new information from Cameron Lee, you see what's happening--people, including me--are getting caught up in this negativity cycle, etc. I'm afraid if it goes up to release day when we find out, we are going to end up with people super-angry and exploding all over the forums, worse than they are now, out of disappointment. Better to let the cat out of the bag now, than to wait until later and have a firestorm. Besides, knowing would certainly help hype those characters.
I'm not trying to be crafty or anything. I just think maybe those who are going to be disappointed would be better off knowing sooner than later. Knowing that our faves might not even be an option for romance is kind of a buzzkill despite the wonderful trailer, new screens, updated site, etc.
The Dalish thing I actually found a way to make it enjoyable for me. I'm going to make my Dalish Mage Toph from Avatar. I already have a catchphrase:
XD
Nice.
I was just planning on having my Quizzy utterly ridiculous petting puppies nice and sweet but huge and woe betide you ****** her off. That isn't gonna be anywhere near as much fun if her voice is one that makes me go 
It wasn't so bad in DA2 since I figured I wasn't going to like her voice early on and I wasn't that into femHawke anyway. B
I'd really like to know exactly how fleshed out a character is is determined by whether or not the game specifies a preference toward a single gender. If a character is set on hetero or homosexuality, that's one thing, but that doesn't seem to relate to things like character development, how they feel about things directly involving the plot, etc..
Anyway at worse I'm playing a forever alone Inquisitor on my first playthrough ...
now now, there's no need to do that...
we don't know how these companions are personally, well except varric 
so you should'nt close yourself so soon.
you might be surprised
The main problem, for me, is that 2/2/2 is just an assumption.
Sadly, since they didn't even had a gender-balanced party, the possibility they'll botch LI's options is still very present.
I know that this would be a wrench in the cogs of the hype engine, Allan, but is there any chance you could coax the other devs/writers into revealing who the LIs will be, and for whom they will be available, assuming this has been ironed out? I mean in the near future, considering few of the characters have been actually revealed yet. Or, at the very least, some idea of how NPCs and companions will be distributed across sexualities, although that seems to be a rather cold, mechanical way to go about things.
Yes, people like to speculate, but with this new information from Cameron Lee, you see what's happening--people, including me--are getting caught up in this negativity cycle, etc. I'm afraid if it goes up to release day when we find out, we are going to end up with people super-angry and exploding all over the forums, worse than they are now, out of disappointment. Better to let the cat out of the bag now, than to wait until later and have a firestorm. Besides, knowing would certainly help hype those characters.
I'm not trying to be crafty or anything. I just think maybe those who are going to be disappointed would be better off knowing sooner than later. Knowing that our faves might not even be an option for romance is kind of a buzzkill despite the wonderful trailer, new screens, updated site, etc.
I really couldn't agree with this more, but it may not be within his power to influence such a decision?
I know that this would be a wrench in the cogs of the hype engine, Allan, but is there any chance you could coax the other devs/writers into revealing who the LIs will be, and for whom they will be available, assuming this has been ironed out? I mean in the near future, considering few of the characters have been actually revealed yet. Or, at the very least, some idea of how NPCs and companions will be distributed across sexualities, although that seems to be a rather cold, mechanical way to go about things.
Yes, people like to speculate, but with this new information from Cameron Lee, you see what's happening--people, including me--are getting caught up in this negativity cycle, etc. I'm afraid if it goes up to release day when we find out, we are going to end up with people super-angry and exploding all over the forums, worse than they are now, out of disappointment. Better to let the cat out of the bag now, than to wait until later and have a firestorm. Besides, knowing would certainly help hype those characters.
I'm not trying to be crafty or anything. I just think maybe those who are going to be disappointed would be better off knowing sooner than later. Knowing that our faves might not even be an option for romance is kind of a buzzkill despite the wonderful trailer, new screens, updated site, etc.
I agree. I'm already not happy with the way things are, but at least I'd have the opportunity to suffer through the worst of it BEFORE DA:I is anywhere clsoe to releasing. Otherwise this anxiety is just gonna build up until it explodes.
Although I doubt Allan can sway them to do anything.
Are we seriously going to debate who has a more objectively sound reason for playing pixel make believe games?
Nope! 
XD
Nice.
I was just planning on having my Quizzy utterly ridiculous petting puppies nice and sweet but huge and woe betide you ****** her off. That isn't gonna be anywhere near as much fun if her voice is one that makes me go
It wasn't so bad in DA2 since I figured I wasn't going to like her voice early on and I wasn't that into femHawke anyway. B
Thanks.
Well, at least you have two voices to choose from.
I agree. I'm already not happy with the way things are, but at least I'd have the opportunity to suffer through the worst of it BEFORE DA:I is anywhere clsoe to releasing. Otherwise this anxiety is just gonna build up until it explodes.
Although I doubt Allan can sway them to do anything.
Agreed.
Before having the X is an LI thing was fine because I was assuming all the companions were bi...with this though some clarification would be nice.
Sadly, since they didn't even had a gender-balanced party, the possibility they'll botch LI's options is still very present.
I'm inclined to assume that some of the characters in the party simply cannot be romanced.
So long as its equal for both male and female, I'm alright with this.
Sadly, since they didn't even had a gender-balanced party, the possibility they'll botch LI's options is still very present.
I've been reading through the thread and I'm more confident now than when I made this post that we'll get a fair distribution, based on someone finally finding the link where David Gaider talked about resources allowing an "even spread", plus the impression I get from Allan's commentary. I hope they don't take too long to tell as at least what sort of demographics we're looking at with sexualities (doesn't need to be characters confirmed, just distribution figures) but for now I feel more hopeful. We'll see. 
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