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This forum can collectively be quite obtuse.
A new trailer comes out along with gobs of information in associated interviews and THIS is the topic du jour?
I just don't get the sexual hangups around here.
Yesterday's info has already been dissicated.
I've been hit with a few PMs as well, and I think I understand. It's definitely not the way I read it (I consider bisexuality to be a "set sexuality."), due to prior biases and general inexperience with the topic, so thank you for the clarification.
It seems like it'd also be increasingly jarring to those that feel that DA2 was simply 4 bisexual companions, because it'd certainly come across as "There were no set sexualities in DA2" or "The bisexual companions of DA2 do not display a set sexuality."
I do want to echo Shorts' statements, that discussion about the ambiguity (and whether or not it's a preferred thing) was actually one of the larger topics at the BioWare base during PAX Prime, so the idea that there are people out there that consider the sexualities "ambiguous" or "open to interpretation" are certainly out there and certainly not a small/trivial component.
This forum can collectively be quite obtuse.
A new trailer comes out along with gobs of information in associated interviews and THIS is the topic du jour?
I just don't get the sexual hangups around here.
This forum can collectively be quite obtuse.
A new trailer comes out along with gobs of information in associated interviews and THIS is the topic du jour?
I just don't get the sexual hangups around here.
When people are content, there's not a lot of discussion. New trailer comes out, everyone thinks it's awesome, everyone's excited to see the companions revealed. Not a lot to talk about there. There's some speculation, some squeeing. There's some debate over the nature of the inquisitor and some disagreement over whether they should have used a male inquisitor for the trailer or whether this companion or that should have made the cut, but for the most part, everyone's content.
This? This is something the forums seem inherently incapable of agreeing on, so of course it's going to go like wildfire.
This forum can collectively be quite obtuse.
A new trailer comes out along with gobs of information in associated interviews and THIS is the topic du jour?
I just don't get the sexual hangups around here.
Or maybe people don't like being segregated based on their gender, just generally?
I'm not interested in romancing pretty much any of the available companions, but I was planning to buy this game regardless because I thought I was supporting a company that was doing the right thing.
Then count yourself lucky that it isn't something that bothers you.
Curse me running out of goddamn likes.
This is why every death in everything needs to be the Wilhelm Scream. Can never go wrong with that.
My favorite scream has to be fem smug. that Guggggh she does is hilarious.
But yeah I hope we don't have to wait til near release to learn the distribution. That...would blow.
This forum can collectively be quite obtuse.
A new trailer comes out along with gobs of information in associated interviews and THIS is the topic du jour?
I just don't get the sexual hangups around here.
I'm not surprised, this is BSN after all.
I'm not particularly keen on passive aggressive comments about a particular group of people because what they like in our video games, and with how much passion, isn't in perfect alignment with everyone elses.
And I say that as someone that doesn't even care for romances in his RPGs.
Abstain from the thread if it is bothering you. Do not talk **** about other forumites.
Allan I need more likes D: give me some!
Have to say this news makes me extremely worried about the romance content in DAI. What's the price being paid for sticking this restriction in. Little to no choice of LI dependent on your character's orientation, less inclusiveness, less content per LI. The only vaguely reassuring thing is if they said that romance had got a significant increase in resources to cope with this restriction. However all previous indications were that this is not so.
My favorite scream has to be fem smug. that Guggggh she does is hilarious.
But yeah I hope we don't have to wait til near release to learn the distribution. That...would blow.
I would love it if they announce all the VA's before the game gets released 
I think the Male Inquisitor sounds fine, but I'm curious about the other Male voice and especially the female voices. They might convince me to roll a female 
I think every problem would be solved if every and all romances were for Garrus.
This. He was just the right mix of funny and supportive and adorkably awkward. *sigh* I'd love a romance in DA:I that feels as natural as his.
Allan I need more likes D: give me some!
LOL I feel your pain. Mine have oddly just rolled over. It's 9PM where I am... It doesn't make any sense, but at least I'm rich again! 
"some characters just being one sexual orientation" I thought they ment everyone would be bi, until i read the comments...
LOL I feel your pain. Mine have oddly just rolled over. It's 9PM where I am... It doesn't make any sense, but at least I'm rich again!
I didn't even know we had a limited number of likes to give. 
I'm not particularly keen on passive aggressive comments about a particular group of people because what they like in our video games, and with how much passion, isn't in perfect alignment with everyone elses.
And I say that as someone that doesn't even care for romances in his RPGs.
Abstain from the thread if it is bothering you. Do not talk **** about other forumites.
This. He was just the right mix of funny and supportive and adorkably awkward. *sigh* I'd love a romance in DA:I that feels as natural as his.
What sort of things did you like best about his romance? I've only begun one with him once, but them stopped right before it was "locked" in because it felt so friggin' awkward! Like the game was trying to convince you not to romance him! I am definitely going to give him another shot if I replay ME again though.
Edit: Oh WOW I must be tired. I asked you a question you had already answered. Oh dear.
Have to say this news makes me extremely worried about the romance content in DAI. What's the price being paid for sticking this restriction in. Little to no choice of LI dependent on your character's orientation, less inclusiveness, less content per LI. The only vaguely reassuring thing is if they said that romance had got a significant increase in resources to cope with this restriction. However all previous indications were that this is not so.
Well they did talk about romances (or the characters) being more fleshed out because of this. I guess all we can do is wait and see if the tradeoff was worth it.
I don't give likes, I get likes.
I apologise if I hurt anyone's feelings. My comment was meant as a joke, seeing as how our unofficial motto is "If we can't romance it, kill it".
Honestly, I thought the motto was "if we can't romance it, complain about in the forums until the next game is released"?
Honestly, I thought the motto was "if we can't romance it, complain about in the forums until the next game is released"?
I would love it if they announce all the VA's before the game gets released
Agreed. At least then I'll know how much hope to have.
The male voice I heard sounds serviceable if female doesn't work for me. But I'm way to attached to my fem Qunari mage to want to let her go 
It is one of the reasons I'm pro playersexual selfish as it is. I don't like being forced to endure a voice I can't stand for ~30 hours for 20 damn minutes of content. I'm not doing it. I didn't do it for Garrus and I won't do it for DAI. I'll just skip the romance ;_; since mods are probably out.
LOL I feel your pain. Mine have oddly just rolled over. It's 9PM where I am... It doesn't make any sense, but at least I'm rich again!
You lucky bastard D:
I apologise if I hurt anyone's feelings. My comment was meant as a joke, seeing as how our unofficial motto is "If we can't romance it, kill it".
Fair enough and apologies if I seem snarky. I've been in this thread a long time and a lot of it was suboptimal in its pleasantness. A case of "using the words that people that are more hateful often use" and the difficulties it comes in disassociating said words.
I didn't even know we had a limited number of likes to give.
Ya it's like 40 or 45 or something.
It's better to hoard them. 
Well they did talk about romances (or the characters) being more fleshed out because of this. I guess all we can do is wait and see if the tradeoff was worth it.
I seriously doubt it, considering there is not a single reason to think that strictly straight or strictly gay characters are any more in-depth than bisexual characters.
So I can understand your perspective and the reason for the SWTOR analogy, are you feeling deflated because you feel this will negatively affect some sort of representation in the game?
In part, because I really don't think BioWare's given good representation in past games. It wasn't until ME3 that we saw a set gay character, and even then it was only one, and lesbian options in BioWare games have always been with a bi-sexual companion (I'm not counting DA2 here, since that was player sexual), which has always felt to me less about representation and more about male fantasy (guys playing a guy character can hook up with them, but also lesbians are hot so we'll allow that as well).
It's also always felt like there's less choices with set sexuality with companions. Or not even felt; there is less choice. Want to play a lesbian Shepard but don't like Liara? Tough luck. Want a gay Warden but don't like Zevran? Well he's all you're getting.
I used SWTOR as an analogy because of my own experiences with it. I was very disappointed with the lack of same sex options, but I got the game anyway because I hoped they'd eventually add them in. Then I played for a year, still hoping the whole that they'd be added. Then the expansion was coming out where they were added, and I knew from beta testers that they'd stuffed it up, but I still bought and played the expansion anyway, because damn you BioWare for making fun games, and still with the hope they'd bring out a patch or something to fully include properly implemented same gender content, which they never did, and I know I'm not the only one who wanted that content who did what I did and bought and played the game, and I just can't help but feel if we'd all held off on buying the game BioWare would have seen it was an important thing to us and worked to include it into the game. A vote with your wallet type thing. And that was my point. No one does vote with their wallet, and so there's no major incentive on the part of the devs to do things differently.
The only way in which DAI's set sexualities approach could be less inclusive - in the sense of the term being used now, which I'm not sure is technically accurate - is if there are fewer options per gender available compared to DA2.
Which means less than 4 options for men and 4 options for women, regardless of the protagonist's orientation. We do not know if this is the case.
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