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#201
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Cass and Cullen were the first announced LIs.

 

Cullen*thus far* has only been portrayed as straight and Cass seems to be the poster girl of Inquisition like Morrigan and Isabella so I'm assuming she'll be romancable by males like those before her.

Isabela was bi.



#202
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My guess at the romances

Females

Straight: Cassandra
Lesbian: Sera
Bi: Scribbles

Males

Straight: Solas or Iron Bull
Gay: DHMG
Bi: Cullen

#203
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I notice Cameron's quote stutters when he says "realistic."  I have a feeling that it may not have been the word he was necessarily looking for, but while talking with someone may not have the easiest time determining the correct word

 

Yeah that's what stood out to me and made me think he wasn't actually quite sure why they decided to do this.



#204
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Meh.



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Great (and by that I mean not great). I foresee me not being able to romance the character(s) I feel the closest connection to, again. DA2's base game variety was a huge improvement over DAO base game. I just see this announcement as an indication that the base game is going to short stick me like DAO did. Luckily I have a good imagination, but yes even to me this is not welcome news/information/direction for DA: Inquisition. :(



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Let's not assume that. 

 

Assume what? I was being sarcastic actually. Some people wanted quality instead of quantity. So there it is. 

 

I love equal treatment but not everyone seems to like that. 



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Yeah that's what stood out to me and made me think he wasn't actually quite sure why they decided to do this.

I still think the word he was looking for was believability.



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There seems to be a misunderstanding that a lot of people have. "Realism" has nothing to do with magic, it has everything to do with the role the world portrays. When you've got a magical universe which pixies can turn people into unicorns, you've got to accept this universe because it exists and the world explains to us that it exists. A dragon's existence in the world of Thedas is realistic in the context of the universe, as does the use of magic and the Darkspawn and what say you.

 

However, sexuality in the Dragon Age has been portrayed in a very normal way. Women and men procreate, sexuality exists and gender expectations exist. To believe that everyone the player encounters has flexible sexuality which bends in the direction which the player fits destroys said world, the fact remains that some Thedosian people--just like real life--are gay, straight and bisexual.

 

To mock the "realism" shows ignorance of what someone means when talking about realism and serves little purpose.


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Actually, I'm not too concerned . I always play as both genders.
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Isabela was bi.

 

And it's actually suggested Isabela prefers women; both in Origins and DA2 she reacts more positively to a female PC than a male.


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Bully for straight people, then.

 

It doesn't matter. Point is, I don't want to be railroaded into one romance because it's the only one available based on sexuality/gender of my Inquisitor. I liked being able to choose.

 

If it turns out that I Lady Inquisitors get just as many choices as Dude Inquisitors, and furthermore have an even split amongst sexualities, I won't be bothered. But, if Lady Inquisitors have fewer options than a Dude Inquisitor, and only one lesbian option, I will be displeased.

 

I'll be very disappointed if there is only one option for a gay inquisitor, but I don't see why we're spending so much time harping on this. Everything the Dev team has said in the past about this issue implies that giving all PCs a choice is important to them.

 

Let's not jump to the conclusion that Bioware is going to screw this up. If the game comes out and gay PCs have only one option then we can all be rightfully indignant, but until then let's give them the benefit of the doubt?


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Sounds fine to me. It is unrealistic (and even slightly narcissistic) to expect all the romance options to be attracted to your PC, regardless of gender. I'll probably do a couple extra playthroughs just to see all the possible options.
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#213
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Gay: DHMG
Bi: Cullen

 

Interesting. I'd figured Cullen was straight.. He seemed to only have straight options in DAO.

 

DHMG resembles Freddie Mercury, so it's fitting :D



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Thanks for that response, I think you actually phrased that very eloquently.

 

Then I ask - why do they apply the realism argument only to romances? I'd like to understand where this line is between realism and fantasy, so these kinds of arguments can hold more weight. As far as I can tell there is no line, it's more a squiggly mess.

I think the line is internal consistency. So long as the companions' behavior is not too implausible in the setting, it can be accepted. The more implausible it is though, the less real it feels. The setting can be as implausible as it wants to be. But once you're within that setting, extreme abnormalities are immersion breaking.

 

Internal consistency is also part of why being the super special awesome chosen one can border on, or outright break immersion for people. If the main character is an extreme anomaly in the setting itself. However, people also want to feel special in a video game. So its necessary to find a balancing point between so awesome as to be out-of-place, and boringly mundane.



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The main complaint here is a lack of options. In Origins, if you want to play a gay male, Zeveran is your alpha and omega. Don't like Zevran? Well you're sh*t out of luck.

 

DA2 had flaws in it's presentation, but it maximized player options, and that is never a bad thing.

 

I hated Zevran so I can understand. I also hated Anders and Fenris (romanced both though). I never romanced Isabella because I like her as a friend for my Hawke (will change that soon) and Sebastian? Forget about it. Merrill is the only DAII I can romance without breaking into laughter. However, it wasn't the end of the world. Luckily, despite DAII's shortcomings (which were a lot mind you), I enjoyed the game....somewhat, so it was bearable and as a result, the romances didn't bother me as much.

 

"You should just be grateful that gay characters exist at all!"

 

No.

 

Let's get one thing straight. Don't put words in my mouth. You have every right to be upset but I was genuinely curious about why you weren't happy since your comment was oozing with so much sarcasm, I thought for a moment that it might have been the cause of the Veil Rip. 


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And it's actually suggested Isabela prefers women; both in Origins and DA2 she reacts more positively to a female PC than a male.

"Men are only good for one thing, Kitten. Women are good for six."


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#217
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There seems to be a misunderstanding that a lot of people have. "Realism" has nothing to do with magic, it has everything to do with the role the world portrays. When you've got a magical universe which pixies can turn people into unicorns, you've got to accept this universe because it exists and the world explains to us that it exists. A dragon's existence in the world of Thedas is realistic in the context of the universe, as does the use of magic and the Darkspawn and what say you.

 

However, sexuality in the Dragon Age has been portrayed in a very normal way. Women and men procreate, sexuality exists and gender expectations exist. To believe that everyone the player encounters has flexible sexuality which bends in the direction which the player fits destroys said world, the fact remains that some Thedosian people--just like real life--are gay, straight and bisexual.

 

To mock the "realism" shows ignorance of what someone means when talking about realism and serves little purpose.

Took the words out of mouth there, Dave. Couldn't "like" harder.



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Sounds fine to me. It is unrealistic (and even slightly narcissistic) to expect all the romance options to be attracted to your PC, regardless of gender. I'll probably do a couple extra playthroughs just to see all the possible options.

 

As unrealistic or narcissistic as expecting a character to fall for one regardless of one's facial slider selections.



#219
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Great (and by that I mean not great). I foresee me not being able to romance the character(s) I feel the closest connection to, again. DA2's base game variety was a huge improvement over DAO base game. I just see this announcement as an indication that the base game is going to short stick me like DAO did. Luckily I have a good imagination, but yes even to me this is not welcome news/information/direction for DA: Inquisition. :(

 

There's always the risk that the character you like best isn't romanceable.  No matter the orientation.

 

And again, let's wait and see what the details are.  I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have gone this route if they weren't confident that they had a decent selection for everybody.  Not just a token bi option or two.  That may or may not end up being the case.  But the fact is we simply don't know yet.



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and then he has flashbacks to the Female Mage Warden :P

"INSERT NAME!?Who's INSERT NAME Cullen?!?"

 

"...****."



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Sounds fine to me. It is unrealistic (and even slightly narcissistic) to expect all the romance options to be attracted to your PC, regardless of gender. I'll probably do a couple extra playthroughs just to see all the possible options.

Agreed.



#222
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"Men are only good for one thing, Kitten. Women are good for six."

Her getting jealous if LadyHawke flirts with Tallis and you're romancing Isabela in MoA pretty much confirms it.



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I'm preparing for the worst, where the only options for the gay male Inq are both unconventionally attractive. Paranoid maybe, but I would not be surprised if we get Nicholas Cage and Mr Moustache, while Cullen is the straight option =/

 

How dare you.

 

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"INSERT NAME!?Who's INSERT NAME Cullen?!?"

 

"...****."

 

Then the romance ends lol  :devil:


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#225
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Interesting. I'd figured Cullen was straight.. He seemed to only have straight options in DAO.

 

DHMG resembles Freddie Mercury, so it's fitting :D

Cullen is straight. That's just some poor soul's wishful thinking .