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[TK514]

Well I'll be very disappointed if the Reaver spec is ignored story wise. Especially after all that talk of how dragons are important to the world and how people with dragon blood have a greatness in them that we had on the comics.

 

I will laugh if they retcon Reavers into heroes of legend, to be admired and viewed with positive awe rather than soul/flesh eating monsters.

 

Maybe they'll claim that real Dragon's blood gets you the Hero of Legend spec, and knock-off Wyvern blood gets you deranged cannibal spec.

[CapivaRasgor]

I will laugh if they retcon Reavers into heroes of legend, to be admired and viewed with positive awe rather than soul/flesh eating monsters.

Maybe they'll claim that real Dragon's blood gets you the Hero of Legend spec, and knock-off Wyvern blood gets you deranged cannibal spec.

You've made my day.. still laughing at the deranged cannibal bit. But still, I think there will be more skill-wise to the Reaver than maneating. I mean, they've got to compensate for having just one spec no? Not to mention that I have I hard time picturing every member of the Theirin dynasty eating people... or perhaps they ate Orlesians in social gatherings? Suddenly all the anti-Ferelden sentiment that the Orlesians have makes sense.

[SgtSteel91]

Maybe you unlock it by killing the 20 or so Dragons rumored to be around the game world. Get power by murdering a dangerous, but endangered, species to extinction!

[TK514]

You've made my day.. still laughing at the deranged cannibal bit. But still, I think there will be more skill-wise to the Reaver than maneating. I mean, they've got to compensate for having just one spec no? Not to mention that I have I hard time picturing every member of the Theirin dynasty eating people... or perhaps they ate Orlesians in social gatherings? Suddenly all the anti-Ferelden sentiment that the Orlesians have makes sense.

 

Every time Alistair talks about "Cheese", it's a euphemism.

[CapivaRasgor]

Every time Alistair talks about "Cheese", it's a euphemism.

OMG.. that time Alistair cooked "lamb" at the camp, right after I killed Marjolaine.. Leliana even pointed that the texture didn't quite feel like lamb... guess that means she'll always carry a bit of Marjolaine with her.

[TK514]

OMG.. that time Alistair cooked "lamb" at the camp, right after I killed Marjolaine.. Leliana even pointed that the texture didn't quite feel like lamb... guess that means she'll always carry a bit of Marjolaine with her.

 

Now the secret has been 'unmasked'.

[Maria Caliban]

Not to mention that I have I hard time picturing every member of the Theirin dynasty eating people... or perhaps they ate Orlesians in social gatherings?

The qunari say that Calenhad was a Reaver. That's not the same as every Theirin being one and it's also speculation; the qunari weren't on Thedas back then.

[CapivaRasgor]

The qunari say that Calenhad was a Reaver. That's not the same as every Theirin being one and it's also speculation; the qunari weren't on Thedas back then.

Well who's to say that? Maybe the Theirins ate the Qunari back then... maybe that's why Sten refers to Alistair as kadan now, he fears being eaten.

Seriously, this whole man eating thing on this thread - which *ahem* you started - got me a little carried away. I know it was speculation, I'm just fooling around.

[TK514]

Alistair got lucky.  No one knew at the time of his Joining that he had a pre-existing condition of "Therin Dragon Blood".  Who knows what kind of negative drug interactions could have happened when he took in the Taint?

 

It's a wonder he didn't swell up and explode or become some Darkspawn Dragon Man amalgamated horror.

[CapivaRasgor]

Alistair got lucky.  No one knew at the time of his Joining that he had a pre-existing condition of "Therin Dragon Blood".  Who knows what kind of negative drug interactions could have happened when he took in the Taint?

 

It's a wonder he didn't swell up and explode or become some Darkspawn Dragon Man amalgamated horror.

 

I think that there is either some major retconning coming up or that the Dragon Blood in Theirin bloodline dilutes over generations.

[Maria Caliban]

I like the Qunari version of Calenhad. It means he was an utter back-stabbing bastard that drank the blood of his enemies on the battle field. Much better than 'and then Arthur pulled sword from stone; happily ever after'.

... have you ever read the Morte de Arthur? Cause it doesn't have a happy ending.

[SgtSteel91]

I don't get the monster connotations associated with Reavers. A lot of the fights you get into are a life or death struggle, especially in a setting like Dragon Age, so why wouldn't a Reaver's abilities be useful? You're most likely going to get hurt in the fight, so why not turn that into a positive for you by getting stronger when you are hurt? And draining life force (a lot of the material describes it as draining life force like you're Shang Tsung from Mortal Kombat) from an enemy you are porbably going to kill anyway just means you don't have use up your health potions, saving money.

 

It's all very economical, in my opinion.

[Maria Caliban]

I don't get the monster connotations associated with Reavers. A lot of the fights you get into are a life or death struggle, especially in a setting like Dragon Age, so why wouldn't a Reaver's abilities be useful? You're most likely going to get hurt in the fight, so why not turn that into a positive for you by getting stronger when you are hurt? And draining life force (a lot of the material describes it as draining life force like you're Shang Tsung from Mortal Kombat) from an enemy you are porbably going to kill anyway just means you don't have use up your health potions, saving money.
 
It's all very economical, in my opinion.

I agree, eating people is economical and efficient. Fighters needs to consistently consume meat to maintain their fitness levels and in a pre-modern society with no refrigeration, that can be very difficult.

Alternatively, wherever my Inquisitor goes, there's probably going to be a ton of dead bodies just *lying around.*

Should I just let them rot? That's a health hazard!

[SgtSteel91]

We got the Grey Wardens and the only counter to the Blight because people suggested eating Darkspawn to gain their strength; just putting it out there.

[Cat Fancy]

Could a Reaver devouring other non-same-species humanoids confer all of the benefits of cannibalism with none of the prion diseases? I don't know anything about biology, medicine, or this universe's lore, but I can confidently say "yes."

[CapivaRasgor]

I agree, eating people is economical and efficient. Fighters needs to consistently consume meat to maintain their fitness levels and in a pre-modern society with no refrigeration, that can be very difficult.

Alternatively, wherever my Inquisitor goes, there's probably going to be a ton of dead bodies just *lying around.*

Should I just let them rot? That's a health hazard!

 

And here was I about to start taking this thread seriously again, glad you've put some sense into my mind... I was doing another playthrough of DA 2, guess I'll just go back to eating templars now, the lyrium adds a unique flavour.

[CapivaRasgor]

Sorry for the double post but did I just mention eating templars with my Reaver there /\... Isn't Templars and Reavers the point of this thread? Oh crap....

[SgtSteel91]

Could a Reaver devouring other non-same-species humanoids confer all of the benefits of cannibalism with none of the prion diseases? I don't know anything about biology, medicine, or this universe's lore, but I can confidently say "yes."

 

Most lore makes it out to be that Reaver's take "life energy" from corpses (in DAO) or enemies (in DA2). There doesn't appear to be any restriction to this, so you can "eat" the life force of a dead bear, a giant spider attacking you, or a bandit and you still get the same health restoration.

[Cat Fancy]

I actually agree, but the devs say otherwise for whatever magical reasons. Humans can mate with dwarves as well. I don't know if the qunari can reproduce with other races; they might have a real opportunity here and they don't believe in wasting those.

[Maria Caliban]

Could a Reaver devouring other non-same-species humanoids confer all of the benefits of cannibalism with none of the prion diseases? I don't know anything about biology, medicine, or this universe's lore, but I can confidently say "yes."

This is a universe where snorting blue rocks lets you cast spells, so I wouldn't worry about eating your own species either. It's not just cannibalism, it's magical cannibalism.

[Dayze]

Reavers don't "have' to be cannibals; though that limits their absorption's of "life/spiritual" energies to the bodies of the recently killed.

 

And as pointed out its not strictly limited to the humanoid species.

 

Thinking about it; reavers don't' really need to eat the food its the injury itself that causes the release of energies just like when they do it to themselves......so I guess going full cannibal is just a nice secondary aspect of it.

 

Though thinking about it; their are other story aspects, Templars start to lose their "mind" in that lyrium usage takes its toll after awhile.....Reavers lose their mind and become unhinged almost by sheer fact of being a Reaver and I have no idea how long that takes according to story lore.

 

So their could be some pretty serious game play consequences here.

[SgtSteel91]

Maybe it's not so bad if it's used in moderation? Cullen has been huffing lyrium half his life and he seems no worse for wear in Inquisition. It could be the same for Reaver abilities.

 

And who knows, maybe the Champion specialization will eventually turn you in a selfless, death-seeking martyr.