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So Cullen Is A Romance... Son, I Am Disappoint


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Son, I am disappoint.

 

I was hoping that BioWare would not make Cullen a companion, let alone an LI. Another heartthrob blond male templar romance. And once again, they are retconning a previously established character's sexual preference. *sigh* I really hope the way a male Inquisitor can romance Cullen is one that acknowledges the fact that he clearly prefers women over men, and his falling for the Inquisitor makes sense. My doubts are high, though.

 

It seems to me that BioWare won't be making Varric a romance like I was hoping. I never wanted to romance him, but it shows that BioWare is not willing to try branch out. They never liked the idea of romancing a dwarf, gnome, halfling, orc, etc. in the first place. I only hope that that fact doesn't extend to qunari.

 

BioWare, I know you like bringing old characters back, but bringing at least 3 pre-existing characters back as companions? I think you've gone a bit crazy. OK, very crazy.

 

I'm sorry, but this clearly screams "fan service." BioWare says that Cullen fans are a vocal minority - and those opposed are a vocal minority too - but not only are they catering to a small group, but they're going the whole 9 yards, while ignoring a big group. I wouldn't have minded Cullen being a companion, because as Cullen fans have said, he could easily have a role to play, but making him a romance, too, when you know many more people wanted to romance Varric, and were disappointed when they found out he wasn't in DA2? That's just wrong.

 

I won't be romancing Cullen unless either one or more of my Inquisitors make sense with him, or I give in, like with Anders. However, I will always refuse (not childishly, but with a modicum of sense) to romance him as a male.

 

I don't hate Cullen, I mean, I love Morrigan, but I've never, ever finished her romance. I don't hate Anders in DA2, either. I love him in 2, though not as much as I did in Awakening.



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How did you come to all these conclusions? Cullen is not a companion, if you dont want to romance him, then dont, its simple. Why'd you assume Cullen is Bi? What told you that Varric wouldnt be a love interest? Its one thing to bring characters back for the sake of a cameo, but these characters are back because they're actually important to the plot, very important.

 

Cullens romance may have been a fan service, but his role in the inquisition is more than legitimate considering his strong ties to the Templars and this game focusing partly on the MvT conflict


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It has been long time clear that Cullen is LI. I'm just sad he's not companion, that would have been better than romance in my opinion. We haven't had templar companion yet.. it seems like that will never happen (Alistair was training as templar he's not templar since he hasn't done actual job).

 

Varric might still be companion and Cullen might be straight, I wouldn't think too much into it before devs confirm these informations.


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Pfft.

 

Making Cullen a romance makes a decent amount of people happy, and hurts no one, except snobs who want to ruin other people's fun.

 

I wish I could say even half as much for the other design decisions Bioware has made.


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I disagree that showing interest in a member of the opposite gender means that you are straight and therefore any interest you show in members of the same gender is a 'retcon.'

There's evidence that Cullen will not be a companion, even if he his a romance.

BioWare does like blonde men, don't they? Well, in this case, they had ample fan support for the decision. I hope one day my BioWare PC will be able to run her fingers through the glorious golden locks of a suitably appreciative female companion, but until that day comes, I see no reason to deny the Cullen fans that pleasure.

I find his inclusion odd, but no more so than Isabela and Anders in DA II.
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This sounds more like 'Why should they get Cullen, when I can't have Varric'.  

And you pretty much answered your own question about fan service. If they truly wanted make any one a LI purely out of fan service, then it would have been Varric because, by your own words more people wanted him.  

If they don't make Varric a LI, which I don't think they have said either way, it makes sense cause he wasn't one in 2 because he still was very much devoted to Bianca (whether or not that is still the case here, remains to be seen)

Cullen as we know, did not have any such devotion, we never saw him in a relationship, we never heard of him being in one and his attraction to the mage warden doesn't really count as nothing happened and that was over 10 years before.



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I don´t care if he is a romance, as long as he doesn´t fill up  one of the companionslots. I am happy the fangirls can romance him, and I can stay away from him. :) 

 

Its a decent deal I´d say. Give the girls some love, while not filling up important companionspace. There is already way to many returning characters as it is.



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I disagree that showing interest in a member of the opposite gender means that you are straight and therefore any interest you show in members of the same gender is a 'retcon.'There's evidence that Cullen will not be a companion, even if he his a romance.BioWare does like blonde men, don't they? Well, in this case, they had apple fan support for the decision. I hope one day my BioWare PC will be able to run her fingers through the glorious golden locks of a suitably appreciative female companion, but until that day comes, I see no reason to deny the Cullen fans that pleasure.I find his inclusion odd, but no more so than Isabela and Anders in DA II.


So how would you feel if Alistair and Morrigan suddenly started showing interest in the same sex?

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So how would you feel if Alistair and Morrigan suddenly started showing interest in the same sex?


Spiffy.
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Spiffy.


Good for you.

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I'm actually in a total agreement with the concept of making Cullen not only a companion, but also giving the player (or some other NPC) the option of building up a relationship with him. To me Cullen has been getting far too much attention in the Dragon Age series. Not only he was in DA1 but DA2! Now hes in DA3. Its time for Cullen to get married up and to retire from the world, and let someone else take his throne of being a popular male among the female fans out there. Cullen either needs to have a tragic ending or a happy one. His story needs to end at some point, and this is the perfect opportunely for Bioware to do it.

I would like Cullen to be straight. I want the game to be as realistic as possible, and that means that not everyone in the world is bisexual. Some prefer the opposite sex while other prefer to romance people in the same sex.

While I truly respect the LGBT community I don't want their influence to invade my entertainment. giving Bisexual status to all of the followers is within bad taste.



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Good for you.


That was random.
 

I would like Cullen to be straight. I want the game to be as realistic as possible, and that means that not everyone in the world is bisexual. Some prefer the opposite sex while other prefer to romance people in the same sex.


Cullen being bisexual does not mean that everyone in the world is bisexual.

 

While I truly respect the LGBT community I don't want their influence to invade my entertainment. giving Bisexual status to all of the followers is within bad taste.


I struggle to think of any Western entertainment that doesn't have queer influence.

That boat has long since sailed.

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That was random.


I could have said more about how Morrigan was clearly disgusted by Leliana's comments amongst other things and how it would be a retcon if she suddenly started showing interest in women all of a sudden, but I was too bored to reply.

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I'm sorry my response to your random question wasn't appropriately scintillating.

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I could have said more about how Morrigan was clearly disgusted by Leliana's comments amongst other things and how it would be a retcon if she suddenly started showing interest in women all of a sudden, but I was too bored to reply.

Right. Because when a woman isn't interested in a specific woman, that clearly means it's impossible for her to be interested in any woman. :V


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So how would you feel if Alistair and Morrigan suddenly started showing interest in the same sex?

Given his somewhat fear and distrust of women, being more comfortable with men, lack of confidence and the whole lamppost comment, I could certainly see it myself. I am sure someone somewhere can give a reason for Morrigan being a Confirmed Spinster. 



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I'm sorry my response to your random question wasn't appropriately scintillating.


Apology accepted.

Right. Because when a woman isn't interested in a specific woman, that clearly means it's impossible for her to be interested in any woman. :V


Alright. So what proof do you have that she isn't straight?

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While I truly respect the LGBT community I don't want their influence to invade my entertainment


what does that even mean?

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Alright. So what proof do you have that she isn't straight?

 

I know this wasn't directed at me, and I'm not saying I think Morrigan isn't straight, but if I were going to make an argument for her being bisexual I'd say she spent years being groomed by Flemeth to fulfill a purpose. Flemeth forced her into bed with men. And Morrigan didn't even know what Morrigan wanted until she was knee deep in it. You could argue that she was conditioned, and it's not out of the realm of possibility that she just doesn't know or is afraid to acknowledge anything else. If that is the case, of course she would be bothered by Leliana. 


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Why make a separate thread, when there is a Cullen thread on the top of the page?



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While I truly respect the LGBT community I don't want their influence to invade my entertainment.

"I don't have anything against them thar homos, but I sure don't want them spewin' their queer all over mah telly-vishun."

 

Too late. Ignoring the dozens, even hundreds of gay people that work and have worked in entertainment, you realise that there are gay people on Bioware's staff, right?

 

Their influence invaded your entertainment years ago. It has always been there.


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While I truly respect the LGBT community I don't want their influence to invade my entertainment. 

I'm not wild about you influencing my entertainment, either, I'll be honest. 


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I know this wasn't directed at me, and I'm not saying I think Morrigan isn't straight, but if I were going to make an argument for her being bisexual I'd say she spent years being groomed by Flemeth to fulfill a purpose. Flemeth forced her into bed with men. And Morrigan didn't even know what Morrigan wanted until she was knee deep in it. You could argue that she was conditioned, and it's not out of the realm of possibility that she just doesn't know or is afraid to acknowledge anything else. If that is the case, of course she would be bothered by Leliana.


Or she could be just straight and clearly uncomfortable with women hitting on her. Occam's zazor and all that.

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More Cullen complaining then is it? Just let the Cullen fans be happy and get over it now please.

 

Or she could be just straight and clearly uncomfortable with women hitting on her. Occam's zazor and all that.

 

I thought that was just meant to be a hypothetical scenario that explains how someone can still be bisexual whilst not being interested/ showing interest in one particular person of the same gender. 

 

I don't think anyone is actually saying Morrigan is Bi, just that she could be as could any character.  


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