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Have you not been reading the many responses that have been left for you in this thread? They don't need to explain it, anyway maybe he is the one struggling to come to terms with his sexuality that was hinted at some time ago?
I'm completely indifferent OP.
The only thing that concerns me when it comes to the topic of companionship is dat Izzy.
Agree 100%, Cullen is like the worst character ever.
I can't wait to kill him
I don't mind Cullen...
However, I have not forgotten about Bethany.
The only thing that would make such a moment better is if it were Hawke doing the killin'.
Your argument is full of "ifs". If this and if that. The bottom line is that we don't know if Cullen was straight in DA: O. You assume he is based on very weak, minimal evidence that happens in one out of 12 origin stories (male/female, 6 race/class combos). That's not compelling. However, if you want to treat such weak evidence as something worth merit, go for it. Don't be surprised when people poke holes in your theory, though.
How is your argument NOT full of "ifs" and "maybes?" Your entire premise rests on the possibility that Cullen COULD be bi or gay yet you have no clue any more than someone arguing for the notion that he's straight. How very hypocritical of you.
How is your argument NOT full of "ifs" and "maybes?" Your entire premise rests on the possibility that Cullen COULD be bi or gay yet you have no clue any more than someone arguing for the notion that he's straight. How very hypocritical of you.
I didn't say that my argument isn't full of "ifs" and "maybes". However, my statement isn't that he is bisexual, either. It's that he could be bisexual. The argument that he is straight is definitive. It's a declarative statement and requires more than "if" and "maybe" to support it. The argument that he could be bisexual is speculative and is perfectly fine with "if" and "maybe". Argumentation 101 stuff, here.
Why would he need to hide his sexuality? Thedas is a very progressive place unlike Earth.
Who said anything about hiding?
I didn't say that my argument isn't full of "ifs" and "maybes". However, my statement isn't that is bisexual, either. It's that he could be bisexual. The argument that he is straight is definitive. It's a declarative statement and requires more than "if" and "maybe" to support it. The argument that he could be bisexual is speculative and is perfectly fine with "if" and "maybe". Argumentation 101 stuff, here.
How is your argument NOT full of "ifs" and "maybes?" Your entire premise rests on the possibility that Cullen COULD be bi or gay yet you have no clue any more than someone arguing for the notion that he's straight. How very hypocritical of you.
You really can't see the difference?
Hide and Seek Hall of Famer Waldo of "Where's Waldo" fame, said somethin' 'bout hidin'.
I didn't say that my argument isn't full of "ifs" and "maybes". However, my statement isn't that is bisexual, either. It's that he could be bisexual. The argument that he is straight is definitive. It's a declarative statement and requires more than "if" and "maybe" to support it. The argument that he could be bisexual is speculative and is perfectly fine with "if" and "maybe". Argumentation 101 stuff, here.
So you throw someone's argument under the bus for having the same gaping holes that yours has. If anything, his argument is 1 step closer to being correct than yours simply because we never saw Cullen hit on a male warden. It's one more shred of evidence that he has and that you don't have. All of this "he could be" or "maybe he just hasn't met the right person," does nothing to support your claim. Spamming hypothetical situations won't help you win your argument.
Who said anything about hiding?
There is absolutely no evidence that he is not straight other than "he's still in the closet". Which is silly because Thedas is a progressive place. So I'm applying Occam's zazor here and I'm going to say he is straight, given what we know so far. He only crushed on a female mage.
It's Occam's "Razor" and it doesn't really apply to a conversation like this.
We are arguing for a possibility, that is all. It's also not always correct and is entirely abut assumptions not facts.
Why else would he not be attracted to a male mage?
We have already been through this.
This will sound absolutely insane, but please bear with me...How about we....WAIT AND SEE?
There is absolutely no evidence that he is not straight other than "he's still in the closet". Which is silly because Thedas is a progressive place. So I'm applying Occam's zazor here and I'm going to say he is straight, given what we know so far. He only crushed on a female mage.
True, but lack of evidence =/= evidence in and of itself. I can see where you are coming from. I really can. It's possible given what we know that he is straight. However, the "flirting" dialogue with a female mage Warden goes nowhere (in fact, he, literally, runs away when propositioned) and it only occurs in 1 out of 12 possible origins. So, it's just not compelling. In, literally, zero of my over a dozen playthroughs, do I have any evidence of his sexuality because I never rolled a female mage. Outside of that one dialogue option, there's nothing.
I mean, I get it, it's something. My argument is that it's not really strong evidence to say outright that he must be straight. If the statement were, it's likely he's straight, then I'd be better with it. It's the same way that I say he's likely to not be gay. Because I think it is likely, but not definite. We just can't say with that little evidence that he is definitely straight. That's my point.
It's Occam's "Razor" and it doesn't really apply to a conversation like this.
We are arguing for a possibility, that is all. It's also not always correct and is entirely abut assumptions not facts.
So you throw someone's argument under the bus for having the same gaping holes that yours has. If anything, his argument is 1 step closer to being correct than yours simply because we never saw Cullen hit on a male warden. It's one more shred of evidence that he has and that you don't have. All of this "he could be" or "maybe he just hasn't met the right person," does nothing to support your claim. Spamming hypothetical situations won't help you win your argument.
Are you being deliberately obtuse?
This will sound absolutely insane, but please bear with me...How about we....WAIT AND SEE?
Hush, dear. Common sense is not welcome here.
Who's nitpicking now?
And it does apply here. The simplest explanation is most often correct.
I let you get away with the mistake last time and it really, honestly doesn't apply here.
The simplest explanation is most often correct.
Not even remotely.
"The truth is rarely pure and never simple."- Oscar Wilde
So you throw someone's argument under the bus for having the same gaping holes that yours has. If anything, his argument is 1 step closer to being correct than yours simply because we never saw Cullen hit on a male warden. It's one more shred of evidence that he has and that you don't have. All of this "he could be" or "maybe he just hasn't met the right person," does nothing to support your claim. Spamming hypothetical situations won't help you win your argument.
It's clear that we are not going to agree on this because I come from a viewpoint that one "shred" of evidence is not enough to say definitively that some is true. It doesn't work that way. To claim that something is true, you have to have strong enough evidence to say that the other options aren't true, which in this case, you don't have. If I said, "Cullen is definitely bisexual", then it would be on me to provide that evidence. The same way that people who say, "Cullen is definitely straight" have to. The only thing that they can point to is one optional piece of dialogue that happens in 1 out of 12 origins and that implies (not proves) that he is interested in females, but not males. I'm sorry, but that's not compelling. If you are convinced by that, fine. However, if (and its possible this won't happen) he is bisexual, don't come back here to complain that he was retconned, because that's not the case. If he said to a male Warden, "Sorry, not into guys" and then was shown to be bisexual in DA: I, you'd have an argument. Otherwise, it's flawed logic.
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