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#101
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Thank you so much Derek,

 

and thank you Allan for getting Derek into this discussion :-)

 

For the last two days I was worried that in Poland my native language will be forced upon me. :-)

 

Now I can be sure I can safely buy my most anticipated title of the year and play in the language it was meant to be played ^-^

 

I have got one additional question though.

 

Would it be possible to have three options in there ? (instead of two)

1) Native subtitles  (Polish, French, German etc.) 

2) English subtitles 

3) Subtitles Off (so that I wouldn't have them for intro and in game cut scenes )

 

The reason for that is simple, If I choose English I would like to play the game exactly like it is being played in US and UK.


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#102
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@Raydenos256 

Derek confirmed, that Russian version is going to have both Ru and En subs. I assume same goes to Poland. At least that's how they want it to be.

 

As for '3)' - I see no problems with turning subs off, it had always been an option. DAO, DA2, all MEs. 



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Clarification question: does this apply to purchases made THROUGH Origin digitally?

With Mass Effect 3, if you bought the game in a regionlocked region, you were LOCKED into that region's VO and text and could not switch them unless you had someone with a different version of the game literally give the necessary files to you (and then mucked about with the registry) -- that was the case with the Russian digital download.

With Battlefield 3 and 4, the same thing.

With Dragon Age 2, Origin politely asked which languages did you want, but that's not something it has done in a LONG while.

 

The physical release of Mass Effect 3 was a proper multi-language release with multiple options for switching text.

 

I'm asking for reclarifications because Origin is a very un-user-friendly device that doesn't always do what it promises when it comes to languages (when I tried to purchase Dragon Age Ultimate through it last year, it told me it could only give me SPANISH VO, despite me being on the same IP in the same region), and while Steam is little better, Steam at least has a centralized language control thingamaboo and now fully transparent and comprehensible warnings about region locking as well.

 

I know this isn't something you have a lot of control over, as you're not directly responsible for Origin, but still. You have to be aware of what EA wants to happen doesn't always match up with what the gamers want to happen, right?


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Because things get really messy when you understand enough to see that the translation is...well, let's just say not perfect. You hear the words, you have a translation in your head, and you read something that matches neither what you hear nor what you think.

 

I know that feeling... It's like sometimes the translators didn't think about the context and just translated word by word, this also happened with DAO in Italian (I don't know about DA2, I made sure to get it in English).

 

Not to mention all the jokes that lose their original meaning, and how translations don't get the lore right!!!


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I am most probably moving to the US this fall and I  have no idea as to what will it do to my account and games on it. 

 

Region locking is pure evil and should go away.  If you are worried about the price difference and people importing  too much - offer both a non-locked copy for the same price people pay in the richer regions and a locked  one for those who are unwilling to pay for the non-locked one.   Loosing the ability to play games you legally bought because you decided to move to a different country is idiotic


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Incidentally, asking about language options and regional locks for the newly re-announced DAO  was the first thing I had done  after registering on  the old pre-social bioware forums  in 2008 (I think).  
6 years have passed and we still can’t get a unified language options policy  going…
 



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In Spain we have (in most AAA games, like Skyrim, unkown for DA:I) only two options:

 

-Purchasing "dubbed" Spanish version with a total of... ten! voice actors that do VO for every AAA game. 

-Having to "pirate" the "international" or English version.

 

I know there are plenty of reasons why this has to be limited, but my god do I wish I could play this game without having to bear listening to the same 10 voice actors over and over again. 

 

I really, really hope there is the option to buy the "international" or "US" version in steam origin spanish store. 

 

Really? Damn, that's brutal. :blink:



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@Raydenos256 

Derek confirmed, that Russian version is going to have both Ru and En subs. I assume same goes to Poland. At least that's how they want it to be.

 

As for '3)' - I see no problems with turning subs off, it had always been an option. DAO, DA2, all MEs. 

It's not an option if you're in the "you get subs but not dubbing" regions. Or, if you're learning the language, want to get subs in English, voice in English, but are stuck with subs in Russian only (ME2 and ME3 if you bought them digitally through Origin, ME1 for ALL RUSSIAN RELEASES, even the undubbed one).

 

Don't forget: SUBS LANGUAGE = MENUS LANGUAGE.



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Clarification question: does this apply to purchases made THROUGH Origin digitally?

With Mass Effect 3, if you bought the game in a regionlocked region, you were LOCKED into that region's VO and text and could not switch them unless you had someone with a different version of the game literally give the necessary files to you (and then mucked about with the registry) -- that was the case with the Russian digital download.

With Battlefield 3 and 4, the same thing.

With Dragon Age 2, Origin politely asked which languages did you want, but that's not something it has done in a LONG while.

 

The physical release of Mass Effect 3 was a proper multi-language release with multiple options for switching text.

 

I'm asking for reclarifications because Origin is a very un-user-friendly device that doesn't always do what it promises when it comes to languages (when I tried to purchase Dragon Age Ultimate through it last year, it told me it could only give me SPANISH VO, despite me being on the same IP in the same region), and while Steam is little better, Steam at least has a centralized language control thingamaboo and now fully transparent and comprehensible warnings about region locking as well.

 

I know this isn't something you have a lot of control over, as you're not directly responsible for Origin, but still. You have to be aware of what EA wants to happen doesn't always match up with what the gamers want to happen, right?

 

Interessing.

 

I bough the ME Triology, DA:O-Ultimate Edition and DA:II through Origins. Origins asked always asked me in which language I'd like to install the games. I believe with ME and DA:II I could choose ... almost every language here in Europe I can think of, with DA:O-Ultimate Editino it asked my aswell, but my only choice was German.

I am in Austria (German speaking), my client is in English.



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It's not an option if you're in the "you get subs but not dubbing" regions.

I can't understand you. The big reply from Derek said that ANY region, that has NO dubs is going to have EN VO, translated text as an option, as well as the original EN text.

 

As a 'victim' of  the mandatory localization in ME3, I'm perfectly aware, that UI text is also affected by the language preset.

In DAI you can pick English, turn your subs off and enjoy your English UI. Or are you asking for the Polish UI combined with English subs? That's not going to happen, I'm afraid. 

 

 

if you're learning the language, want to get subs in English, voice in English, but are stuck with subs in Russian

Well, according to that big post, the only ones who 'stuck' this time are those who are going to get their dubbed VOs. Which is not Poland. And BW is looking for ways to fix that. As I said - you're going to have EN  VO + an option to choose text this time. Unless they change their mind.



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First Bioware game in Brazilian Portugues. You have my thanks, Bioware  :D



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Really? Damn, that's brutal. :blink:

 

Not really.

 

90% of the physical games are EURO5 (English, French, German, Spanish and Italian) here so I don't know where he's getting that idea from...

 

Worst case scenario you can just buy the UK version from any online retailer or use Steam/Origin and choose whatever language you want.



#113
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So happy to see they will have Japanese subtitles! I sometimes cannot understand all the dialogues in English, this is going to be helpful, thank you! O(≧∇≦)O



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Very good!  Brazilian Portuguese.   I am very happy, cause I see, here in Brazil, the Dragon Age official website in Portuguese!    Thank you Bioware!

 

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Just bumping this thread to see if there is any update on the availability of English VO in all regions through Origin before pre-ordering. It has me a bit worried, as EA has been offering Dead Space and Titanfall for free lately - but only in German. Installed, uninstalled... I'm in Switzerland with 4 national languages and 40% foreigners, so having German-only stores and games is incredibly silly. May I also point out that EA global publishing headquarters are in Geneva, Switzerland, with English as their working language, so it's also incredibly ironic?

 

Please just make the original English version available to all regions through Origin. Believe it or not, we English speakers are not confined to the UK and North America. Thank you. 



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Have you tried setting your Origin client language to English? I'm in Germany and it downloaded all my games in English language without any further input from me.



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Have you tried setting your Origin client language to English? I'm in Germany and it downloaded all my games in English language without any further input from me.

Hi and yes. My Origin is always set to English. Googled "change language" for an hour as well for both games. No way to change it. I'm not alone here, I have several friends in Switzerland who tried it with Titanfall too, gave up and uninstalled...  


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#118
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Just bumping this thread to see if there is any update on the availability of English VO in all regions through Origin before pre-ordering. It has me a bit worried, as EA has been offering Dead Space and Titanfall for free lately - but only in German. Installed, uninstalled... I'm in Switzerland with 4 national languages and 40% foreigners, so having German-only stores and games is incredibly silly. May I also point out that EA global publishing headquarters are in Geneva, Switzerland, with English as their working language, so it's also incredibly ironic?

 

Please just make the original English version available to all regions through Origin. Believe it or not, we English speakers are not confined to the UK and North America. Thank you. 

Since the game isn't final, I will once again guard this by stating that the following is true as of June 23rd, 2014. The plan is to offer English text in all possible regions regardless of the Origin client language. Again, we don't have everything final and there might be regional requirements from EA groups (Legal, Sales, Bob from Accounting) that I don't know about at this time that could force us to change our plans.

 

Specifically in your situation in Switzerland with an English Origin client, you should end up with an English install by default. A person in Switzerland with an German Origin client would get German text and German VO, with the option to change the text to English.



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From my experience (Austria) you get the international version in Origins and just have to change a line in an .ini file from, in my case, de-DE to en-US.

 

On the other hand both DAO as well as DA2 were in German originally despite having an English Origin client.


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Just bumping this thread to see if there is any update on the availability of English VO in all regions through Origin before pre-ordering. It has me a bit worried, as EA has been offering Dead Space and Titanfall for free lately - but only in German. Installed, uninstalled... I'm in Switzerland with 4 national languages and 40% foreigners, so having German-only stores and games is incredibly silly. May I also point out that EA global publishing headquarters are in Geneva, Switzerland, with English as their working language, so it's also incredibly ironic?

 

Please just make the original English version available to all regions through Origin. Believe it or not, we English speakers are not confined to the UK and North America. Thank you. 

I am in the Netherlands and bought Titanfall here, and it was in German as well. However, if you buy it in Western Europe, the English files are included and you can change it in the game properties- that's how I did it. Just type "-language English" and that changed it for me. I have lived in Germany as well, and I have always been able to play my games in both German AND English. Sometimes I had to change languages in the game itself, sometimes outside, but it was never a hassle. 



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From my experience (Austria) you get the international version in Origins and just have to change a line in an .ini file from, in my case, de-DE to en-US.

 

On the other hand both DAO as well as DA2 were in German originally despite having an English Origin client.

 

Austrian here aswell.

 

This is why Origins is so weird sometimes. For me, DA:O was in German but DA:II in English. Client lang. is English, of course.

 

But I am really happy that you guys are still looking into a English VO for us.



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Derek, thanks so much for looking into this. Really appreciated. 



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I am in the Netherlands and bought Titanfall here, and it was in German as well. However, if you buy it in Western Europe, the English files are included and you can change it in the game properties- that's how I did it. Just type "-language English" and that changed it for me. I have lived in Germany as well, and I have always been able to play my games in both German AND English. Sometimes I had to change languages in the game itself, sometimes outside, but it was never a hassle. 

Tried the -language English trick. Game just would not launch at all. Disabled that and it launched fine... in German. :) 



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Hi and yes. My Origin is always set to English. Googled "change language" for an hour as well for both games. No way to change it. I'm not alone here, I have several friends in Switzerland who tried it with Titanfall too, gave up and uninstalled...

I'm from germany and had this problem once with deep space. I contacted support and explained my problem and they helped me.

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I'm curious has anyone seen a video for da2 in a Japanese dub I'm actually curious as to whether it's good or not.

Watching dawn of the seeker in japanese got me wondering