Why in the heel inq need to even meet him and 1000 others characters from previous character is thedas only 10 km area with 1000 peoples to keep meeting same peoples over and over again in other countries with different protagonists?
Because Leliana knows him and possibly Varric? Because he's probably considered one of the best in the continent? Why should we settle for some no name assassin if Zevran is alive?
Because Leliana knows him and possibly Varric? Because he's probably considered one of the best in the continent? Why should we settle for some no name assassin if Zevran is alive?
as a fair point, this IS actually the first game where it really does make sense for characters from Origins to make a cameo, given Leliana's involvement and the location. She has access to the (possible) King of Ferelden or Leader of the Ferelden Grey Wardens, the Crows guildmaster, and senior enchanter of the Ferelden Circle of Magi. Not to mention the Grey Warden involvement leaves plenty of room for Oghren to show up, and even MORE so, Loghain in an ending that parked him in Orlais.
and senior enchanter of the Ferelden Circle of Magi.
Ummm no spoilers but no she doesn't...
Because Leliana knows him and possibly Varric? Because he's probably considered one of the best in the continent? Why should we settle for some no name assassin if Zevran is alive?
And what if leliana know sketch it means that inq have to know sketch as well same for hawke... especially that he is hiding.
No he isn't best even alistair states that and he admists it...
And considering that we can kill him , inq don't know him and i doubt that assassin will be enforced in for inquisition as morality well will be up to us not everyone would like assassin.
as a fair point, this IS actually the first game where it really does make sense for characters from Origins to make a cameo, given Leliana's involvement and the location. She has access to the (possible) King of Ferelden or Leader of the Ferelden Grey Wardens, the Crows guildmaster, and senior enchanter of the Ferelden Circle of Magi. Not to mention the Grey Warden involvement leaves plenty of room for Oghren to show up, and even MORE so, Loghain in an ending that parked him in Orlais.
Anora can be queen , warden can leave wardens , zevran can be killed and i doubt that he is gives where he is because he knew (possible) her
Spoiler
and you can even tell her no and don't take her to your party then she leaves...
Ummm no spoilers but no she doesn't...
I'm remembering incorrectly? The wiki cites *Wynne as Senior Enchanter as well. Irving is First Enchanter, but I'm pretty sure Wynne is a Senior.
EDIT: woops
I'm remembering incorrectly? The wiki cites *Wynne as Senior Enchanter as well. Irving is First Enchanter, but I'm pretty sure Wynne is a Senior.
Just read Asunder.
Just read Asunder.
Well, ****. So, that limits my earlier list somewhat, but the statement stands regardless.
And what if leliana know sketch it means that inq have to know sketch as well same for hawke...
No he isn't best even alistair states that and he admists it...
And considering that we can kill him , inq don't know him and i doubt that assassin will be enforced in for inquisition as morality well will be up to us not everyone would like assassin.
1. If there's a valid reason for Sketch to be in Inquisition then why wouldn't he show up? This doesn't even support your argument though; we're talking about a completely different character and one that doesn't have Zevran's elevated position.
2. Alistair says he's no "master of combat." Assassins aren't masters of combat first off; they're assassins. Plus that was at the time of Origins; 10 years ago in the timeline. If Zevran is alive in someone's playthrough then he has killed the last 3 master assassins sent after him AND the guild master. Good job ignoring that one and reaching back to Origins for your argument though.
3. Considering some people killed him, obviously he's not supposed to show up in their playthroughs. And honestly, what is with this morality point you're bringing up? Did morality stop players from doing the Crow questline in Origins or bribing Templars in DA2? Players will use whatever morality system options are put in front of their face. To hell with the companions that don't agree with it.
And considering that we can kill him , inq don't know him and i doubt that assassin will be enforced in for inquisition as morality well will be up to us not everyone would like assassin.
Anora can be queen , warden can leave wardens , zevran can be killed and i doubt that he is gives where he is because he knew (possible) her
Spoilerand you can even tell her no and don't take her to your party then she leaves...
Obviously those changes would be accounted for, similar to DA2. Besides, I wouldn't count anyone dead as officially dead, yet. To bring up old drama, I'm still certain that there's a very specific plot reason that Leliana could be killed in Origins and come back for 2.
Besides, I'm pretty sure Alistair has already been confirmed as showing up in the game. It wouldn't make much sense for him NOT to, given that the game spans orlais and ferelden and already has a plot that seems deeply politically rooted.
1. If there's a valid reason for Sketch to be in Inquisition then why wouldn't he show up? This doesn't even support your argument though; we're talking about a completely different character and one that doesn't have Zevran's elevated position.
2. Alistair says he's no "master of combat." Assassins aren't masters of combat first off; they're assassins. Plus that was at the time of Origins; 10 years ago in the timeline. If Zevran is alive in someone's playthrough then he has killed the last 3 master assassins sent after him AND the guild master. Good job ignoring that one and reaching back to Origins for your argument though.
3. Considering some people killed him, obviously he's not supposed to show up in their playthroughs. And honestly, what is with this morality point you're bringing up? Did morality stop players from doing the Crow questline in Origins or bribing Templars in DA2? Players will use whatever morality system options are put in front of their face. To hell with the companions that don't agree with it.
1.And what is valid reason i can pull 10000 reasons out of my a** if i want same can do devs doesn't mean that devs should bring every previous character it is fanservice and horrible writing.And yes sketch is character from da universe same for zevran you could bring anyone just for any reasons but doing that too much makes story unbelievable and cheap. Dai have already plenty returning character i don't think it needs more...
2.He said that too but zevran also speaks about master of crows who are much better than zevran on which zevran was only one who agreed with task so thats they didn't sent someone better and it is rather obvious they had better than him. And what argument i ignored it seems that reaching for game info is horrible thing to do well unless you reach for codex entry that are rumors...
3.LoL first they won't bring him more than cameo if he could be killed and throw up pretty much means that small amount of players would take him and pretty much large amount of players killed him. I can see leliana becase she survived no matter what.I mean that he would be even more pointless as morality is up to you as it is your player character so he could be killed and he was by many players , he is hidding and well many players don't want forced assasin for ethical reasons.So if inq will have assassin it won't be forced and it should be not be another returning character...
Obviously those changes would be accounted for, similar to DA2. Besides, I wouldn't count anyone dead as officially dead, yet. To bring up old drama, I'm still certain that there's a very specific plot reason that Leliana could be killed in Origins and come back for 2.
Besides, I'm pretty sure Alistair has already been confirmed as showing up in the game. It wouldn't make much sense for him NOT to, given that the game spans orlais and ferelden and already has a plot that seems deeply politically rooted.
They said no more Jesus gambit in da so well i doubt that and as i said there is even codex entry if you won't take her with you she isn't heroine just went straight to orlais so well she doesn't have any connection with characters that warden meet. Wasn't alistair confirmed only as king?
1.And what is valid reason i can pull 10000 reasons out of my a** if i want same can do devs doesn't mean that devs should bring every previous character it is fanservice and horrible writing.And yes sketch is character from da universe same for zevran you could bring anyone just for any reasons but doing that too much makes story unbelievable and cheap. Dai have already plenty returning character i don't think it needs more...
2.He said that too but zevran also speaks about master of crows who are much better than zevran on which zevran was only one who agreed with task so thats they didn't sent someone better and it is rather obvious they had better than him. And what argument i ignored it seems that reaching for game info is horrible thing to do well unless you reach for codex entry that are rumors...
3.LoL first they won't bring him more than cameo if he could be killed and throw up pretty much means that small amount of players would take him and pretty much large amount of players killed him. I can see leliana becase she survived no matter what.I mean that he would be even more pointless as morality is up to you as it is your player character so he could be killed and he was by many players , he is hidding and well many players don't want forced assasin for ethical reasons.So if inq will have assassin it won't be forced and it should be not be another returning character...
1. Says you to the bolded part. Bioware devs have been bringing back companions from previous games for awhile now. You might want to get used to it. I also would like to point out that the devs would at least make sense of a character returning. If anything, Zev has more of a reason to show up in DA:I than he did in DA2.
2. What's your point about all these people Zev mentions that are better than he? Whether or not they were the ones who came after him isn't even relevant. He killed the last few master assassins that came after him and their Guild Master. I doubt the ranks of the crows climb much higher than that. Also, that information wasn't derived from the codex entry (nice try). Zevran outright states it himself if you meet him in DA2.
3. Did I ever say he should show up for more than a cameo? I didn't and that is all I would expect. The title of the thread isn't: "Zevran for companion in DA:I!"
1. Says you to the bolded part. Bioware devs have been bringing back companions from previous games for awhile now. You might want to get used to it. I also would like to point out that the devs would at least make sense of a character returning. If anything, Zev has more of a reason to show up in DA:I than he did in DA2.
2. What's your point about all these people Zev mentions that are better than he? Whether or not they were the ones who came after him isn't even relevant. He killed the last few master assassins that came after him and their Guild Master. I doubt the ranks of the crows climb much higher than that. Also, that information wasn't derived from the codex entry (nice try). Zevran outright states it himself if you meet him in DA2.
3. Did I ever say he should show up for more than a cameo? I didn't and that is all I would expect. The title of the thread isn't: "Zevran for companion in DA:I!"
1.Sadly but they used such fanservice in da 2 cameos in daa were fine at least i hope they will keep that from da 2 level where it was ridiculous on soap opera level.
2.Where he stated that as far i renember that was in his codex possible but i don't renember that.
3.Cameo isn't important character it is just reference and as i should for sake cameo it is just stupid bring another returning character when we have so many already. And he can't be rather important character so well...
Because Leliana knows him and possibly Varric? Because he's probably considered one of the best in the continent? Why should we settle for some no name assassin if Zevran is alive?
Pretty much this.
While I'm generally against characters returning just for the sake of a cameo, a role for Zevran in DA:I actually makes sense. The Inquisitor wouldn't be running across Zevran by accident. Leliana is already part of the Inquisition and Zevran is potentially the guild leader for the Anitvan Crows. Why would Leliana be employing unknown and possibly less trustworthy or less skilled assassins? Whether or not Zevran is still with the Crows, it would make sense for Lelinana to seek out Zevran's services first. And it certainly makes sense for the Inquisitor to seek the services of the Crows, who are the most feared assassins in all of Thedas.
3. Considering some people killed him, obviously he's not supposed to show up in their playthroughs. And honestly, what is with this morality point you're bringing up? Did morality stop players from doing the Crow questline in Origins or bribing Templars in DA2? Players will use whatever morality system options are put in front of their face. To hell with the companions that don't agree with it.
They could pull a Wrex, John Doe is the guild leader of the Crows working for Leliana or if alive Zev is the guild leader working for Leliana.
They could pull a Wrex, John Doe is the guild leader of the Crows working for Leliana or if alive Zev is the guild leader working for Leliana.
Or they could have the Antivan Crows under Zevran's replacement decide not to align exclusively with Leliana, leaving the Inquisition to use some other less proficient guild.
I never even considered this (which is terrible because Zevran is one of my favorite Dragon Age characters) and I would love to have Zevran show up as some badass Guild Master of the Crows, when appropriate of course. Oh, now I'm going to be disappointed if he doesn't show.
Man if everyone of the companions from every game comes back its going to be like a can of Sardines in Skyhold's War room
I would love to see my favorite elf again.
I've been hoping Zev makes an appearance since they announced the game. The Zevran I know is cutting his way through the Crows and it would not surprise me one bit if he ends up as the Guild Master. So I vote a resounding YES! (Though I probably should keep my hopes to a minimum so I won't be crushed by disappointment.)
I can take him or leave him, honestly. I won't be sad if he doesn't show up.
I think it makes sense for Zevran to show up because part of this story is about the Warden and Hawke being missing. So I would hope the friends I put so much time and effort developing relationships with would want to be a part of rescuing me. I'm hoping Zevran will show up and frankly I'm hoping Fenris will offer his service to the military arm of the Inquisition. I'm hoping Isabela will be one of my spies and if I remember correctly Sten is an Arishok now so I hope I run into him too.
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