Cameron Lee interview about the Chantry (Spoilers).
#51
Posté 24 avril 2014 - 08:21
#52
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Posté 24 avril 2014 - 08:29
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Inb4 Anders Is a Martyr
#53
Posté 24 avril 2014 - 08:32
Rhys death could explain Cole joining the Inquisition, sadly.
If that's the case, I'd rather have Rhys alive and Cole crawl back into whatever hole he was hiding in.
#54
Posté 24 avril 2014 - 08:47
I have a strong feeling that they will be killed off in the explosion.I'm starting to wonder if Warden/Hawke (and/or really) will be at the summit.
Would that upset you guys if they were and they, well, perished?
#55
Posté 24 avril 2014 - 08:55
I'm starting to wonder if Warden/Hawke (and/or really) will be at the summit.
Would that upset you guys if they were and they, well, perished?
They said that if they came back they would play a major role not just a cameo. If they were killed of at the beginning that would be a cameo.
#56
Posté 24 avril 2014 - 09:19
They said that if they came back they would play a major role not just a cameo. If they were killed of at the beginning that would be a cameo.
Wouldn't be the first lie.
#57
Posté 24 avril 2014 - 09:22
But Mike Laidlaw said the leaders of the faction in the civil war were killed. He probably misspoke, but still...
Yeah, but in Cameron's interview its described as a meeting between mage leaders and Chantry leaders
#58
Posté 24 avril 2014 - 10:33
Yeah, but in Cameron's interview its described as a meeting between mage leaders and Chantry leaders
Given the presence of the Dalish, Dwarven, or Vashoth protagonist, it may not have been limited to the Chantry and mage leadership.
#59
Posté 24 avril 2014 - 10:34
Given the presence of the Dalish, Dwarven, or Vashoth protagonist, it may not have been limited to the Chantry and mage leadership.
Well, the blast apparently kills thousands of people so who knows what the range of the blast could have been.
#60
Posté 24 avril 2014 - 11:09
I've been saying that they'll kill her off in-game for years now, even more so when that survey leak described what DAI would be about, lol.
#61
Posté 25 avril 2014 - 12:32
I'm starting to wonder if Warden/Hawke (and/or really) will be at the summit.
Would that upset you guys if they were and they, well, perished?
Both were stated to be missing at the end of the epilogue of DA2. I seriously doubt that they'd both turn up from whatever they were doing just to go visit a peace conference.
I'm also wondering if the epilogue of DA2 takes place just before the start of DAI. I could see Cassandra's interrogation of Verric taking place just as she and Leliana are preparing to travel to the peace conference. Verric decides to tag along, and all three of them arrive (with Cassandra's assembled troops) just in time to see the aftermath of the explosion.
#62
Posté 25 avril 2014 - 02:58
Both were stated to be missing at the end of the epilogue of DA2. I seriously doubt that they'd both turn up from whatever they were doing just to go visit a peace conference.
I'm also wondering if the epilogue of DA2 takes place just before the start of DAI. I could see Cassandra's interrogation of Verric taking place just as she and Leliana are preparing to travel to the peace conference. Verric decides to tag along, and all three of them arrive (with Cassandra's assembled troops) just in time to see the aftermath of the explosion.
Seems most likely ro me.
#63
Posté 25 avril 2014 - 03:01
I think they said the time pass between DA2 and DA:I is what, The time that passed between the RL release of DA2 and DA:I plus Travel Time, or was it just Travel Time. Can't remember.
#64
Posté 25 avril 2014 - 03:02
I think they said the time pass between DA2 and DA:I is what, The time that passed between the RL release of DA2 and DA:I plus Travel Time, or was it just Travel Time. Can't remember.
Just travel time.
#65
Posté 25 avril 2014 - 03:08
Celene and Gaspard are probably safe. With all the setup in TME, there's no way they would cut off that plot line so abruptly and without resolution.
The only people I think are seriously at risk are Justinia and Fiona. The implication seems to be that Justinia's death leads directly to the formation of the Inquisition. Fiona's death paves the path for Adrian and Rhys to become leaders of rival Mage factions. The Templars already lost Lambert, so I don't know what's going on there. Chaos for everyone.
Many people don't read the books they just play the games meaning the game world still has to explain who these people are briefly but likely that means many gamers won't be so attached to them if they do die. I'm not sure this makes someone more or less likely to die mind you but if they appear in the prologue or story set up at the beginning of the game in a big conference setting be afraid... be very afraid for them... they're going to die ![]()
Unless storm out in a fit of pique about the seating arrangements or something equally trivial before everything goes BOOM!
#66
Posté 26 avril 2014 - 01:06
If Justina really dies at the intro, there it goes any reason for me to take an favorable stance with the Chantry. With their only progressive leader dead, I don't see much reason to support them in any way at this point. Unless they show us that Justina was not the only level headed member in their order.
Why on earth would you believe that Justina was the only progressive leader in the first place?
The sheer fact that she was able to become the leader in a consensus-driven leadership selection should indicate that there are like-minded people who are open to her views. She wouldn't have a support base, or allies to help her selection, otherwise.
Progressives don't rise to power in the midst of a sea of conservatives. Progressives rise to the top when there is a significant undercurrent of supporters and allies to support their rise. Unless you intend to argue that the Chantry has somehow become radically less progressive since her assumption of power, the idea that she's somehow the one good Chantry leader reflects more of your views than the actual leaders within the Chantry.
#67
Posté 26 avril 2014 - 09:37
Why on earth would you believe that Justina was the only progressive leader in the first place?
The sheer fact that she was able to become the leader in a consensus-driven leadership selection should indicate that there are like-minded people who are open to her views. She wouldn't have a support base, or allies to help her selection, otherwise.
Progressives don't rise to power in the midst of a sea of conservatives. Progressives rise to the top when there is a significant undercurrent of supporters and allies to support their rise. Unless you intend to argue that the Chantry has somehow become radically less progressive since her assumption of power, the idea that she's somehow the one good Chantry leader reflects more of your views than the actual leaders within the Chantry.
Agreed. With the glaring exception of the traitorous Grand Cleric in Dawn of the Seeker, so far the higher-ups in the Chantry we've met have been relatively nice. Ok, they can be accused of being ineffectual and playing it safe instead of taking necessary risks, but that's another matter.
However, progressives can and do rise to power among conservatives (and the other way around) as long as they get enough support, support that can be given despite being progressive/conservative, not because of it. There are more qualities needed in a leader than just their views on a certain aspect of the organization's ideology. I mean, the decisive thing that tipped the balance could have been such a petty reason as being the best Orlesian candidate in the conclave, because the Chantry may favour Orlesian Divines.
Fiona is a good example of that situation in the Mage camp. She's the Grand Enchanter despite the Libertarians not being the largest fraternity in the Circle. Since DA:O it has been said that the Libertarians are getting more and more influence, and her election is a proof of that. However, the moderate Aequitarians are still the largest and most decisive fraternity.





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