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[AlaskaThe1st]

I dunno, I'm rather enjoying myself 

[KainD]

Mages aren't a race, they are mutants within their own species.

Everything evolves through mutation. Mutants are new different species.

[Lanavis]

Can two white people produce a black child? No.

Can two nonmages produce a mage? Yes.

 

Ergo it's not a race.

The funny thing is that 2 white people can produce a black child as long as one or both of them have black in them. It's INCREDIBLY unlikely, but possible.

And since it has been implied that magic used to be everywhere and in everyone, those nonmages could be assumed to both have at least one magic ancestor.

Granted I don't view mages as a race in the slightest.

[Cainhurst Crow]

The funny thing is that 2 white people can produce a black child as long as one or both of them have black in them. It's INCREDIBLY unlikely, but possible.

And since it has been implied that magic used to be everywhere and in everyone, those nonmages could be assumed to both have at least one magic ancestor.

Granted I don't view mages as a race in the slightest.

 

That actually depends on all humans having originating ancestors who were all mages, which seems entirely unlikely. And dark pigmentation isn't usually a recessive trait, so the situation you described sounds like it'd be 100000000000 to 1 odds of happening. As far as has been shown, farmers and lower class people can give birth to mages, and I doubt they had some 4th or 5th generational mage blood in their veins to have pulled that off.

[Br3admax]

The funny thing is that 2 white people can produce a black child as long as one or both of them have black in them. It's INCREDIBLY unlikely, but possible.

And since it has been implied that magic used to be everywhere and in everyone, those nonmages could be assumed to both have at least one magic ancestor.

Granted I don't view mages as a race in the slightest.

You just said the magic words. no pun intended, they are black. House is talking of opposite ends of the spectrum, which should have been obvious.

 

 

As to the other response, you all need Jesus. 

[EmperorSahlertz]

Mages are genetical. The more mage ancestors you have the more likely you are a mage. Altos Tevinter families give birth to mages in 90% cases, and have their mage roots going for hundreds of years.

Be that as it may, since we know of cases were both parents are mages yet the offspring of the coupling is NOT a mage, we can conclude that Magic is NOT genetical, and is determined by another sofar unknown factor.

 

 

Everything evolves through mutation. Mutants are new different species.

Nope. Unless you are about to claim that all of those humans who will be born without a sense of smell in the future, in fact aren't humans at all, but some new species...

Mutation is adaptation of an organism to changed conditions. Given the extent of the mutation, you can begin to argue taht it has indeed evolved into a new race, but minor changes (which we see every day, even in humans,) does not constitute a new species, or even race.

[KainD]

Magic is not a minor change.

[DarthLaxian]

Racist would be an incorrect term. Supremacist would be more fitting. And the term "mundane" is already deregatory enough.

 

well, yeah, it is putting baseline humans down, but what do you expect, there's millions of normal humans (so many that mages would probably lose on principal if it came to a straight up fight - at least if they would not have time to prepare - because they would simply get swamped) so in a way yes, mages are special (does not mean that "mundanes" should just have to accept mage dominance or something though)

 

greetings LAX

ps: reminds me of a certain TELEPATH from a certain show happening on a certain space station   - "After all they are just mundanes" ^^

[The Baconer]

Defects, dead-ends, laborers...

[Sir Froggie]

Blood tubes
Chant-humpers
Dream jimmies

[EmperorSahlertz]

Magic is not a minor change.

Nor is it geneological, which we just established makes Mages not a seperate race of their own..

[Wolfen09]

Friendship sacks?

[Thomas Andresen]

Beyond "mundanes," from DA:O, as was pointed out on the first page, I'm pretty sure there is no other such thing as the OP asks for, in-universe. Yet.

I will not venture into "let's make up derogatory slang" land, however. Because of reasons. Very specific, opinionated reasons.

[General TSAR]

Mutants are new different species.

Yeah that why Albinos are considered to be a separate.....oh wait.

[AltanIV]

Can two white people produce a black child? No.

Actually they can, if they both have black ancestors the "black" gene can stay and finally show itself. But that still is a minority.
Then again I don't consider mages as a race. As much as I don't consider black people as a race, blacks are humans, whites are humans, that's all there is to it.

And albinos are a genetic anomaly, you also have albinos rabbits for example.

Back to the topic. Beasts.

[General TSAR]

And albinos are a genetic anomaly, you also have albinos rabbits for example.

And that's what mages are: genetic anomalies.

[AltanIV]

And that's what mages are: genetic anomalies.

Doesn't make them a race nonetheless. But yep mage could be considered as a genetic anomaly if you consider that humans, elves or qunaris can have mage children.