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[MrMrPendragon]

Actually I think the Divine won't get killed in the explosion, but whoever responsible for the explosion will send assassins after her. Giving the Inquisitor a "Leliana/Cass encounter", where you save them and recruit both or either of them. This would also explain why they think the explosion isn't an accident and instead planned to kill the Divine and other prominent political figures.

Highly unlikely this would happen. Maybe I just don't want the Divine, Rhys, Evangeline, Fiona (Yes i don't want her to die. Shoot me), Celene, and Gaspard to die.

Edit: oh nvm. The divine does die apparently. Well I hope Rhys and Evangeline survive. Kinda makes Wynne's sacrifice meanignless if both of them died without putting up a fight.

[Wolfen09]

according to the aus article, the divine is killed in the explosion

[HiroVoid]

Cassandra killed the dragon. It was way easier for her than for the Warden too.

Easier than this?

[EmissaryofLies]

Remember that the Inquisitor walks out from the Fade. So yes, the Inquisitor is literally the light at the end of the tunnel Now that Hawke screwed up again everything is going wrong, it's time to put things right. Tha's the rule of drama, isn't it?

 

Still wondering how they will justify to use that place for the summit if Leliana wasn't with the Warden, Genitivi died, the ashes were defiled and the dragon and its mad cult were left alive.

 

 

All would be well if it was indeed Hawke's fault. Just for the sake of an inside joke. 

[Mistic]

 

All would be well if it was indeed Hawke's fault. Just for the sake of an inside joke. 

 

 

Semi-confirmed rumour: Hawke is the villain behind DA:I's plot.

[ReallyRue]

It could kill Anders too, I can imagine him being there. Maybe Carver/Bethany.

 

Everyone's at risk!

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

Holy Crap, the game starts at the Urn of Scared Ashes and everybody gets killed.  Direct insult to the Maker for sure.  Hmm, interesting.  I agree with an above poster, hope we get a walkaround like Ostagar before the big explosion happens.  I'd really like to see the Divine and Fiona just once at least. 

 

It will also be interesting to hear what Alistair/Anora have to say about the big boom happening in Ferelden. 

Modifié par ElvaliaRavenHart, 24 avril 2014 - 05:05 .

[Mistic]

Holy Crap, the game starts at the Urn of Scared Ashes and everybody gets killed.  Direct insult to the Maker for sure.  Hmm, interesting.  I agree with an above poster, hope we get a walkaround like Ostagar before the big explosion happens.  I'd really like to see the Divine and Fiona just once at least. 

 

It will also be interesting to hear what Alistair/Anora have to say about the big boom happening in Ferelden. 

 

I didn't notice the symbolism behind such an attack. It's true, it's as if someone was saying: "Screw you, Andraste!". Another thing to reinforce one of my theories for the villain behind DA:I, maybe a former enemy or former cult from the old Inquisition times. You know, when they were Andrastian vigilantes opposing chaos.

 

It also would remove an important plot-hole for the future. I mean, next time you see someone with an incurable disease in DA, you could have said: "Hey, go to the Sacred Ashes, they heal everything!". Not anymore.

[Wolfen09]

anders wont be there, hes either dead or too important to kill off especially when they said they had plans for him or justice him, if you killed him, in this game.  Im secretly hoping anders is the villain so i can end his life again

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

I think they've already said if you kill Anders he won't be in the game.  Which is to bad for the fade sequins.  I think it would be cool to run into him and Wynne both in the fade sequins. 

[Gervaise]

First off, is this site you are quoting an official Bioware site or associate, is it a leak or is it just someone speculating?

 

If it is true, then in a way it makes sense and accounts for why two leading members of the Divine's entourage end up as part of the Inquisition.  Of course with a problem of that magnitude the Divine might have ordered them to get involved but actually it helps knowing she is dead and the Chantry in chaos because I wouldn't have to feel I was acting for the Divine on proxy.  It also evens up the scale on the mage/Templar front if Fiona is dead since it seems highly likely that Lambert is already out of the picture.   The map on the Bioware site actually has a flag that says he is "missing presumed dead" at the beginning of the game.  I posted on the Cole thread that he would have hidden the body so that no one else got blamed but equally Lambert may not actually be dead but just imprisoned somewhere all alone and forgotten, just like Cole originally was.    It would also explain why there is such chaos if 3 powerful factions have suddenly lost their leaders, whilst at the same time Orlais is plunged into Civil War.   The Divine might have been a stabilising influence in Val Royaux but clearly that would no longer be the case.  The large number of deaths would be linked to the presence of pilgrims wherever the Ashes were located but it may have been chosen as sort of "neutral" ground for a meeting so there may not be many other major figures there - Evangeline and Rhys are probably safe, although if they were killed that would make Cole really want to find who was responsible.   The timing of the meeting is probably immediately after the close of the two novels, which almost run concurrently.    With the Templars temporarily without a leader, that would seem an opportune moment for the Divine to try and broker a peace with the mages as I assume Lambert's planned Exalted March on their hideout did not take place.

 

The explosion in the vicinity of the Ashes might also account for why the Inquisitor survived and even their strange powers.   I originally thought it would be along the lines of some powerful Fade Spirit, possibly a Hope spirit, possessing them.   However, it could merely be that they were close to the Ashes when the explosion happened and they not only got covered in the stuff so it in someway preserved/healed them but also absorbed it, a bit like Fenris' lyrium tattoos only more so.  What had previously been able to heal mortals is now able to heal the Veil as well.   That is kind of cool so I hope that is the case.   It would avoid having a separate being having an influence on events because in a way it would just be accident of fate that the Inquisitor was in the right place at the right time.

 

SPOILERS FOR NEW TWO NOVELS FOLLOW - Just warning you.

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Justina had her "day in the sun" in the two novels.   She doesn't appear in Masked Empire but Lelianna does the talking on her behalf and of course we do meet her in Asunder.   Whilst she says all the right things, I didn't really respect her.   I thought sending Pharamond off to some remote place, but nevertheless inhabited,  to do highly dangerous magical research without any supervision was irresponsible in the extreme.  Then considering everything that occurred was her responsibility, to callously order Pharamond made Tranquil again just to appease Lambert was showing her true colours.    In Masked Empire she says that the elves are "children of the Maker just as we are and just as deserving of his Grace" behind closed doors via Lelianna to Celene but then insists she puts the elven unrest as reciprocating action to match her doing something about the mage/Templar situation.   Bearing in mind that at this point it is only unrest in the Circles, not yet full scale rebellion, I find her attitude somewhat odd if she knows she can do something about it but hasn't done so yet.   If she is waiting on Pharamond's research, then she knows she has done something and thus her demand of Celene is unnecessary.   

 

In fact if Justina came out in public and said that all people were the Maker's children, including both mages and elves, that would be a start in getting life improved for everyone (apart from the Nobles) because up to now people have used the Chantry's teaching to justify their poor treatment, in direct contradiction I might add of what it actually says in the Chant itself.  Unfortunately, as the Chantry controls what is actually chanted and the interpretation placed on it, the majority of people are illiterate (apart from Nobles and Chantry members who have a vested interest in not revealing anything) and also powerless to change things (unless they do rebel on mass) then the Divine is merely maintaining the status quo. 

 

So whilst I don't like seeing anyone blown up and it does look and sound from the trailer that Anders' efforts were pretty much a damp squib in comparison, I'm not too upset that Justina and Fiona are gone, if that is the case.  

[Inquisitor Julianos]

Magic did it *nods*

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

@ Gervaise

 

Well all we know so far is that it happens at or near the urn of scared ashes.   Did it happened in the room where the Urn actually is?  Did the Chantry replace the urn with another one?  Did the explosion happen say in Haven or Redcliffe or near Crestwood? 

 

Does this mean that Alistair/Anora are dead since the conference was in the host nation of Ferelden? Are they at the conference?  

 

That temple is massive in many areas and had some large sized rooms to accommodate that many people. 

 

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[Cobra's_back]

@Gervaise

 

I'm also not impressed with Justinia. She pretty much used people.

[Cobra's_back]

The explosion in the trailer happens in the building containing the Urn of Sacred Ashes, apparently. 

 

This maybe poetic justice. Andraste the poor slave girl would most likely want nothing to do with the present day Chantry. I thought she was about freedom not oppression.

[EmissaryofLies]

No no no!

 

The Chantry is all about freedom! They didn't annul or purge anybody, they set them free!

[Hanako Ikezawa]

This maybe poetic justice. Andraste the poor slave girl would most likely want nothing to do with the present day Chantry. I thought she was about freedom not oppression.

Then again destroying a peace conference doesn't seem Andraste's style. 

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

Only three groups I can think of that would want that Urn or temple destroyed

 

1. Trevinter

2. Dalish Elves

3. Qunari

 

 

I wasn't sure to add mages in here because some mages do believe in the Maker and Andraste. 

 

Anders would have been a prime suspect for causing a boom.  He has done it before,to bad he is dead.

[EmissaryofLies]

Something about watching the Chantry blow up puts me on cloud nine. 

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

Yeah the first time playing DA2 and you get to that point I'm sure everyone had that wow moment! Took me forever to decide to kill Anders.  I put the game on pause and was like ****!

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Yeah the first time playing DA2 and you get to that point I'm sure everyone had that wow moment! 

Well, my moment did start with a W. The other two letters were different, though. 

[TheKomandorShepard]

Then again destroying a peace conference doesn't seem Andraste's style. 

We don't know her style what Andraste style was all we know is idealized figure presented by chantry as white vs black.

 

After all it is dragon age so i doubt that she was so nice as chantry try paint her.

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

Well whoever did it has to have some key abilities and motives:

 

1- They have to have the power and/or knowledge to open a Fade Tear

2- They must have a reason for why they would want the conflict to continue

3- They probably want to do something more important that just keep a conflict going.

4- They also probably had to be there to do it, meaning they are skilled at infiltration, or a member of a group involved.

 

This leads to a rather large pool of suspects actually.

Any mage who can be possessed, any Chantry official who is wanting to kill the mages off, a political radical wanting mages to be free without compromise, groups profiting off of the turmoil like possibly Tevinter, or even more unknown elements.

 

At this time I would put good money on it being a demon, possibly Flemeth, Fen'Harel, etc.

 

Maybe Sandal?

He did say a prophecy that kinda sounds like this.

You forgot Briala. The only thing she possibly lacks is the ability to tear the fade open, but that may change with some ancient elven thing she finds or something.

[Cobra's_back]

Then again destroying a peace conference doesn't seem Andraste's style. 

 

I don't think the bomber is a good guy. He/She may have their own reason for doing this.

 

It is poetic because of the location. The Chantry has no right to claim Andraste's location.

 

They have shamed her.

[Cobra's_back]

We don't know her style what Andraste style was all we know is idealized figure presented by chantry as white vs black.

 

After all it is dragon age so i doubt that she was so nice as chantry try paint her.

 

We know she was a slave and she joined up with the Elves. We do know she was fighting against oppression.