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Who was the PC before "the Incident" and why are they qualified to become the Inquisitor?


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Perhaps because you don't really have significant ties to certain groups at the start?

Leliana and Cassandra are both loyal agents of the Divine, so they probably dont think of themselves as someone made to lead a neutral group?

Or perhaps the Inquisitor can summon giant cheese wheels from the fade for everyone!

 

At this point it is a non-issue till we learn more.

Mmmm Cheese.



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Yeah, but it doesn't really need to be extensive (not that your saying it does) and in any or rather most circumstances they'll have a lower/less extensive resume than Cassandra or Leliana or even Cullen possibly know what I mean? I'm sure they'll come up with more reasons, but so far it seems 1. You founded the Inquisition 2. You are the only person with the rather important ability of closing these tears and 3. It seems the Antagonist has a vested interest in specifically messing with you. You might also be the only person capable of/having success at hunting the primary antagonist which makes you the prime candidate for leadership. Just my thoughts, but I'm interested in your opinion on it.
 

Thats what i said lol

Well spending years besides one of the greatest tacticians in history has something to do with that i'd assume. I'm not saying you have to be a warlord prior to this event, im just saying it would make more sense if this person had some sort of background in combat or is an authority figure of some sort 

I dont want to seem like im saying that this person needs to be a highly decorated veteran, i just want to know they have some minimal experience to make being the leader of such a powerful organization, make sense. The idea that the PC's only claim to fame for this position is their unique ability, just throws me off because it wouldnt make sense



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Perhaps because you don't really have significant ties to certain groups at the start?

Leliana and Cassandra are both loyal agents of the Divine, so they probably dont think of themselves as someone made to lead a neutral group?

Or perhaps the Inquisitor can summon giant cheese wheels from the fade for everyone!

 

At this point it is a non-issue till we learn more.

Mmmm Cheese.

 

 

wait so the inquisitor is sheogorath... makes more sense then the old god baby  :P



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Perhaps because you don't really have significant ties to certain groups at the start?

Leliana and Cassandra are both loyal agents of the Divine, so they probably dont think of themselves as someone made to lead a neutral group?

Or perhaps the Inquisitor can summon giant cheese wheels from the fade for everyone!

 

At this point it is a non-issue till we learn more.

Mmmm Cheese.

That's my thought as well, not the cheese summoner thing, the other thing. Leliana likely feels she's better suited as a spy then a Leader, Cassandra probably feels that it would be best if someone not from the chantry lead the group, so that whatever bias she might have don't play a factor in getting the job done. That or she figured having the wo/man with the actual power to close the tears would be a much better rallying figure then her, the Internal Police of the now likely dead Divine.



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Thats what i said lol

I dont want to seem like im saying that this person needs to be a highly decorated veteran, i just want to know they have some minimal experience to make being the leader of such a powerful organization, make sense. The idea that the PC's only claim to fame for this position is their unique ability, just throws me off because it wouldnt make sense

I think, but I have to ask, isn't that obvious? I'm honestly not trying to be snide, but the fact that we can fight at all kind of says that we have the experience you mentioned. We can probably hold our own by virtue or having the basic skills of the character. Does that mean we have experience in leading? Idk, I think that every protagonist we've had so far besides Shepard (at least in BioWare games) have just been really promising fighters/thieves/mages/students/etc.

 

As for the Inquisition I'm not sure it's even formed yet. As you said it was cemented by the breach, but what exactly does that mean for us? Obviously that's a question that will be answered by release, BUT the Inquisitor has been mentioned to be the founder of said Inquisition and maybe its because they say are the one who really pushes the group forward. Cassandra and Leliana know about the Inquisition, know that it was a Plan B, but without the Divine didn't know what to do with that information or what the Divine's plans were besides starting the Inquisition.

 

In the A World Unveiled trailer a dev mentioned that we "seize" the power which may say that we kind of just take lead and that upon seeing that we're not totally incompetent throughout the first level or two of the game let us take the reigns with the caveat of "we'll be watching".

 

On a side note even with a strong resume I am wondering why Cassandra isn't the lead, but that could be said of any character and any organization. The Chantry is a shambles regardless of who's leader of the Inquisition and her very presence in the group I think unless your a non-human is enough to make everyone question the Inquisition's neutrality.



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Thats what i said lol

I dont want to seem like im saying that this person needs to be a highly decorated veteran, i just want to know they have some minimal experience to make being the leader of such a powerful organization, make sense. The idea that the PC's only claim to fame for this position is their unique ability, just throws me off because it wouldnt make sense

Well I agree, I too would like some explanation of why suddenly all these important figures are willing to cede authority to the PC.  In reality it's because we are the player character but I'd like a bit of reasoning about it for my own enjoyment.

 

If I were Cassandra there is no way I would be handing over my troops arbitrarily to some bloke with a dodgy story and a glowing hand while the world plunges into chaos.  I'd insist he made his veil closing services available but he wouldn't necessarily get a say in leadership decisions until such time as I determined Quizzy's advice was valuable.  I hope we are given some mechanism to understand why she or anyone of importance would trust this characters judgement.

 

This is an old chestnut with me because I've always thought Alistair handing over complete decision making authority in a Blight to the Warden (a new recruit he'd met very recently) was absolutely ridiculous (unless that recruit was the Cousland heir).  If his self-confidence issues prevented him from leading, the most logical result would be a collaborative partnership with the Warden.  We all know the gameplay necessity for it but I'd like a bit of theatrics just to make the story easier to swallow.


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That's a good point @The Creeper



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I think, but I have to ask, isn't that obvious? I'm honestly not trying to be snide, but the fact that we can fight at all kind of says that we have the experience you mentioned. We can probably hold our own by virtue or having the basic skills of the character. Does that mean we have experience in leading? Idk, I think that every protagonist we've had so far besides Shepard (at least in BioWare games) have just been really promising fighters/thieves/mages/students/etc.

 

As for the Inquisition I'm not sure it's even formed yet. As you said it was cemented by the breach, but what exactly does that mean for us? Obviously that's a question that will be answered by release, BUT the Inquisitor has been mentioned to be the founder of said Inquisition and maybe its because they say are the one who really pushes the group forward. Cassandra and Leliana know about the Inquisition, know that it was a Plan B, but without the Divine didn't know what to do with that information or what the Divine's plans were besides starting the Inquisition.

 

In the A World Unveiled trailer a dev mentioned that we "seize" the power which may say that we kind of just take lead and that upon seeing that we're not totally incompetent throughout the first level or two of the game let us take the reigns with the caveat of "we'll be watching".

 

On a side note even with a strong resume I am wondering why Cassandra isn't the lead, but that could be said of any character and any organization. The Chantry is a shambles regardless of who's leader of the Inquisition and her very presence in the group I think unless your a non-human is enough to make everyone question the Inquisition's neutrality.

I meant minimal experience in tactics and politics, leadership qualities, not in basic combat. Theres no way we would be given a character with no fighting experience



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I think that's the hang up right there:  People seeming to believe that the Inquisition has been around for a thousand years, and we're taking control.  This is not the case, from what I've seen to date.  The Inquisition, this time around, is new.  It's initial army, that everyone is so worried about being in control of is 2 or maybe 3 people.  I'd wager a third or more of the game is going to be building that big army, and, the qualifications for leading that big are going to be largely centered around "you're the one that built it", on top of being the only one capable of closing breaches, that we know of.  We won't be commanding major forces 5 minutes into the game.  Hell, we may not be commanding major forces 2 chapters into the game, we don't know.  There's no sense in getting all worried about something like that at this juncture, since, for all we know, we won't have vast armies at our command until the very end of the game.



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the Inquisitor is the perpetrator of the attack and suffers amnesia while inadvertently receiving the power to close the fade rifts. It's SW:KotoR Revan plot all over again.



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Let me just point out that many pilgrims make the trek to the Urn of Ashes on their own.  For all we know, the Inquisitor may just be a traveler in the wrong place at the wrong time.



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I don't think its going to take that long in the story to gather significant forces seeing as capturing keeps seems to be a big part of the game play. Leading considerable amounts of soldiers, taking control of multiple keeps and land, that's a powerful position that we will likely have early on. I mean, the PC sits on a damn throne for god sake. 



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You might have more choice in Bioware games compared to others but that choice isn't limitless, i think perhaps in the Keep when your setting your world up an character you will also have a limited background checklist so to speak that will answer the OP

 

But that like everything else is just speculation an i hate speculating an reading about games until i've played them but im weak an cant resist



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Perhaps because you don't really have significant ties to certain groups at the start?

Leliana and Cassandra are both loyal agents of the Divine, so they probably dont think of themselves as someone made to lead a neutral group?

 

Interesting perspective. It would be ironic, wouldn't it? There are several people in the forum thinking that the presence of Cassandra and Leliana in the Inquisition means that we will have to work for the Chantry, while maybe in-game those two are trying to make the organization as independent as possible.

 

I think that's the hang up right there:  People seeming to believe that the Inquisition has been around for a thousand years, and we're taking control.  This is not the case, from what I've seen to date.  The Inquisition, this time around, is new.  It's initial army, that everyone is so worried about being in control of is 2 or maybe 3 people.  I'd wager a third or more of the game is going to be building that big army, and, the qualifications for leading that big are going to be largely centered around "you're the one that built it", on top of being the only one capable of closing breaches, that we know of.  We won't be commanding major forces 5 minutes into the game.  Hell, we may not be commanding major forces 2 chapters into the game, we don't know.  There's no sense in getting all worried about something like that at this juncture, since, for all we know, we won't have vast armies at our command until the very end of the game.

 

Agreed. I really think that our first forces will be a bunch of volunteers, so the only step we need is to convince them and Cassandra (if they are, as I suspect, the "our men" Cassandra mentions in the last trailer). Your next followers won't ask why you are leading them because the Inquisitor will be already the boss by the time they meet you. Even if it's just the boss of a small party.