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[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

>Counting sebastian in anything.

 

Might as well have told me to romance arl howe.

 

So basically:

 

'I'm right except when I'm not, and in that case then that evidence doesn't count because reasons.'

[Cainhurst Crow]

So basically:

 

'I'm right except when I'm not, and in that case then that evidence doesn't count because reasons.'

 

This is the BSN way, man. Look at all them dalish threads to see it.

[Rawgrim]

Right, so you take two off each and the ratio is 5:3, which is still not thrilling.

 

True. But there are more guys this time than females. I am not bothered by it at all. I can be friends with guys, even though I only go to bed with women. If the characters are great, wich they will be, it is all good.

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

>Counting sebastian in anything.
 
Might as well have told me to romance arl howe.
 

 

Even if the basis was flawed and we required *shudders* flirts to get the romance going, it was nice to have one with a good character that didn't involve doing the dirty deed.

 

The me2 'romance' with Samara isn't romantic. She refuses to be in a relationship with you, not just to have sex with you.

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

True. But there are more guys this time than females. I am not bothered by it at all. I can be friends with guys, even though I only go to bed with women. If the characters are great, wich they will be, it is all good.

 

I agree in theory, however considering I can't think of one time when there are more female companions than male ones, I'm still disappointed.

[Rawgrim]

I think....Baldur`s Gate 1 might have had more females than men.

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

I think....Baldur`s Gate 1 might have had more females than men.

 

Good to know, if true, but could you check?

 

I haven't played it and I don't want to spoil who the companions are.

 

Anyway, that was a long time ago, and there have been many games since where the ratio is either even or biased towards men.

[Cainhurst Crow]

The me2 'romance' with Samara isn't romantic. She refuses to be in a relationship with you, not just to have sex with you.

 You're just being offensive to the Gynephilic Asexual community now.

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

 You're just being offensive to the Gynephilic Asexual community now.

 

My favourite community </3

[kukumburr]

Directly this topic: Why are women a little sad in this case? Having a myriad of different NPCs that we interact with here and there (some more than others) is not the same as having 4 women among the companions.   Part of my concern is, for the most part it isn't the major NPCs that the average consumer is going to see plastered all over the magazines, ads and other media.   Other than a glimpse of previous companions in the ads ("oh look, it's Morrigan!) they'll see the same makeup that was in vanilla Origins: 6 men, 3 women as your party members.

 

It seems like that having most of the direct female representation coming from several NPCs feels like a disservice.  I still find it odd that someone would be confused that anyone might want another lady to travel with and journey with frequently.  Not someone that's gated only by event and/or a temporary companion and/or a quest giver.  

 

With that being said, please don't mistake my tone.  All of my previous statements about the company still apply and frankly, the fact that higher ranking members of the DA team come out to talk to us feels like they are listening to us.  Even when they don't agree.  

 

 

I'm certainly not against having another female companion, and I wouldn't be against having a majority of the companions be female for once either. I guess I just don't see how having one more female companion really makes female representation all better. We have three female companions, two of which we know are confident, independent women. To me, this is good representation. While I'm not against adding another one, I don't see how that makes a dramatic difference. In my opinion, bad representation would be having the female companions be less developed or weaker willed than the male companions. Or if there was a severe lack of female characters in general. It's like how "harem" games/shows have a majority of female characters, but they're all basically one-dimensional common tropes. They might have a majority of female characters, but I wouldn't call that good representation. I have no problem with people asking for more female companions, but it seems like some people are offended that it's not even and I don't really understand that.

 

As for advertising, don't they usually show 1 female companion and 1 male companion? I don't think they include all of them on most marketing things, do they? Like how they've mostly been featuring Cassandra and Varric.

[Rawgrim]

Good to know, if true, but could you check?

 

I haven't played it and I don't want to spoil who the companions are.

 

Anyway, that was a long time ago, and there have been many games since where the ratio is either even or biased towards men.

 

15 guys 10 females. My bad. You get alot of the male ones very late in the game, though. Most of the female ones you get early.

[Rawgrim]

10 male 6 females in Baldur 2. That game also has romances. 2 for straight males, 1 for straight females. First game to have romances, I belive. First Bioware game, anyway.

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

15 guys 10 females. My bad. You get alot of the male ones very late in the game, though. Most of the female ones you get early.

 

Still, sucky ratio.

[dlux]

 You're just being offensive to the Gynephilic Asexual community now.

Hopefully somebody from asexual community doesn't state that they don't want romance stuffed down their throats. That would just enrage people from other communties.

[Mihura]

Hopefully somebody from asexual community doesn't state that they don't want romance stuffed down their throats. That would just enrage people from other communties.

 

I said I would be done with this topic... but no dude I am asexual and I love romances so you can put your prejudiced in the bag and throw it in the sea of sitty-comments-I-will-never-do-again. 

[CronoDragoon]

Then why are you even bringing this up, if it doesn't apply to dragon age? Sounds like off-topic shenanigans to me.

 

I didn't bring it up. But since it's been brought up, it's applicable to the DA series in that future games could follow Inquisition's ratio, which would make it a problem.

 

I think a reasonable way to sum things up is: It's not really a problem that there are more men than women in this particular game. But it'd be nice if over the course of the series things evened out (I doubt this conversation would be the same if DA2's cast had 4 women, 2 guys, for example).That way, you don't have to feel like you're on a tightrope from game to game, but you're still cognizant of a potential situation where the important character stories are predominantly men over the course of multiple games, in which case perhaps there's something you can do to change that.

[dlux]

I said I would be done with this topic... but no dude I am asexual and I love romances so you can put your prejudiced in the bag and throw it in the sea of sitty-comments-I-will-never-do-again. 

I didn't even know there was a topic. lol

 

So many different communities, with so many different sexual preferences, that all get mad for so many different reasons, and stuff you into a specific pigeon hole and state you are a certain biggot. I can't even keep track anymore. 

[AlanC9]

10 male 6 females in Baldur 2. That game also has romances. 2 3 for straight males, 1 for straight females. 

 

Fixed.

[Rawgrim]

Fixed.

 

Thanks. Typo. 3 female elves, actually. Why do we allways get female elf spellcasters in Bioware games?

[Ryzaki]

Fixed.

 

Hehehe.

 

[Urazz]

I'm guessing there will be a female Qunari NPC or two that you can romance at least.

 

Really, why be pissed over the amount of men or women in the party?  Really, you should only be pissed off if the amount of romances for each gender is not about equal with party members.

[Maria Caliban]

Yes, thats why playing the Inquisitor, Warden, and Shepard are so important to me, they are made that way to work with both genders same lines and no one sees an issue.

Shepard was designed to be a man.

[Iakus]

Thanks. Typo. 3 female elves, actually. Why do we allways get female elf spellcasters in Bioware games?

 

Enhanced Edition also adds one more straight male romance (a half-elf wild mage, of course  ) one straight female romance, one bi male, and one f/f.

[javeart]

Video game problems, the scourge of third world countries!

 

of course you would do that, ignoring my actual answer to you (that the problem is sexism, not video games) and find a way around to once again make the complaint look silly. Oh, yes, so unexpected 

[andar91]

I admit that I was struck by the gender ratio of companions, though if there are still plentiful female characters represented in the story overall, it's still a lot better than most games/media do at all. I would prefer a more even split, truth be told, but the writers are gonna write who they feel strongly about. And as at least one person I've seen has said, I'd rather have 3 fantastically developed female companions than 10 of a lesser quality.

 

As far as romances go, I'm a little puzzled that having set sexualities is more restrictive to queer players. I am a (male) queer player, and I prefer relatively set sexualities--it's more reflective of the real world the audience belongs to. Yeah, sexuality is fluid, but the idea that ALL romances were as flexible as they were in DA2 is a tad strange to me. Yeah, more choices for players, but it sort of creeps me out that people want to be able to walk up to anybody and instantly romance them. Why would you? They have to be interested too, and sometimes they aren't.