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Jesus Christ lmfao I cannot believe this... and yet... a lot of people in this thread have either said or implied women overreact..
Incredible.
Hey i'm calling it as I see it in this case. Whether it is true or not is honestly just as irrelevant as this discussion.
But ... Shale does not identify herself as female. She literally says "I have no gender" at one point after discovering she used to be a woman.
On a side note. Considering both the lack of DLC characters (Which I feel is both a good and bad thing) and general Forum creepiness (as in approaching Tali Sweat levels of creepy) towards the general idea, Did you guys really think we would get a female Qunari Companion.
On a side note. Considering both the lack of DLC characters (Which I feel is both a good and bad thing) and general Forum creepiness (as in approaching Tali Sweat levels of creepy) towards the general idea, Did you guys really think we would get a female Qunari Companion.
I didn't at all really, mostly because I figured the Iron Bull would be a real companion.
To be honest, the design of the Qunari female, at least the mockup we saw earlier, is very impractical and more sexist than this entire discussion is. What type of warrior or mage wears straps like that along her chest?! it's almost like a chainmail bikini, just with leather straps.
I don't understand that logic at all in terms of companion count, but I won't get into that here.
It is the Bioware Uncertainty Principle: Allister and Loghain can not be companions or in the party camp at the same time.
On a side note. Considering both the lack of DLC characters (Which I feel is both a good and bad thing) and general Forum creepiness (as in approaching Tali Sweat levels of creepy) towards the general idea, Did you guys really think we would get a female Qunari Companion.
If Iron Bull hadn't been brainstormed as a guy, we probably would have. As someone who makes characters, or at least character concepts, the identity of the character usually comes all about in one massive burst, rather then a long and arduous process. That includes gender, which is often something decided as one of the first starter points along with a brief history and personality. Physical details and fleshing out comes later.
It's hard to get ride of your initial concept without scrapping it completely, and since gender tends to play a big role in this aesthetics wise, sometimes it just becomes too hard to redesign a character as another gender that won't throw the whole thing out of wack and prompt you to start over.
But one thing I'm sure of is that we were never going to get more then 1 qunari companion. That much I can be certain of.
I didn't at all really, mostly because I figured the Iron Bull would be a real companion.
To be honest, the design of the Qunari female, at least the mockup we saw earlier, is very impractical and more sexist than this entire discussion is. What type of warrior or mage wears straps like that along her chest?! it's almost like a chainmail bikini, just with leather straps.
Boob straps are almost as bad a design choice as useless belts/pouches/pockets from the 90's are. At least from my own opinion of outfit aesthetics.
If you want a character that isn't a man or woman, you really don't need to go and make the companion like... A wisp or sylvan (?) or anything so fantastical. Just make a non-binary/agender character! 8) MORE REPRESENTATION FOR EVERYONE! *tosses confetti into the air*
I know I expected another female companion, whatever the race. I guess I shouldn't have, and I guess I read too much into the DA team's intentions than I thought. Meaning that while the devs and writers might see the important NPCs will be interacting with sometimes as great for them, I interpreted that differently. That may be on me, and I own up to that, but it doesn't entirely change my feelings.
You know what? That's okay if I'm puzzled and a little let down. As even David said in this very thread, he understands why some folks are feeling left out and hurt. He wants us to constructively express our views and not dismiss them as "unimportant."
@Creeper You haven't done that and I really appreciate it. We might not entirely agree, but thank you for offering your opinion with class. That is also to anyone that has given their views about this manner politely. Some may not understand why we feel this way, but at least you're being respectful when you ask. You guys have been great and thanks for being cool. 
@Some of the other posters: If you feel that it's all silly and just a waste of time, then why are you here? We are here to offer constructive feedback and discussion regarding companions that we aren't entirely happy with. You're here just to badger others and tell them that they are being "[pick the latest term for posters you don't like here.]" Now, please tell me who's wasting time again?
I mean this with all due respect. If you think talking about this is a waste of time, then please stop bumping the thread and just leave. All your doing is making yourselves look bad while keeping this at the top of Page 1.
If Iron Bull hadn't been brainstormed as a guy, we probably would have. As someone who makes characters, or at least character concepts, the identity of the character usually comes all about in one massive burst, rather then a long and arduous process. That includes gender, which is often something decided as one of the first starter points along with a brief history and personality. Physical details and fleshing out comes later.
It's hard to get ride of your initial concept without scrapping it completely, and since gender tends to play a big role in this aesthetics wise, sometimes it just becomes too hard to redesign a character as another gender that won't throw the whole thing out of wack and prompt you to start over.
But one thing I'm sure of is that we were never going to get more then 1 qunari companion. That much I can be certain of.
Boob straps are almost as bad a design choice as useless belts/pouches/pockets from the 90's are. At least from my own opinion of outfit aesthetics.
Due to Iron Bull having left the Qun, as opposed to the Qunari Inquisitior who was never part of it. The whole character would be very very different if they were female because of gender roles in the Qun. The only women that see any sort of regular combat are people like Tallis, and they would be much more suited to being spies then warriors if they left the Qun.
I recall reading a post on a thread asking for a female Qunari Love Interest, or something along those lines, back in the earlier days of the DAI forums. I have yet to find it for reference sadly, but In said thread, David Gaider said they make characters LIs, and indeed companions, if it fits with the game's overall story and not to satisfy any... personal desires, if I remember correctly. This gave me the impression that there would be no female Qunari companions. Plus, I figured Iron Bull was THE Qunari companion.
Because Bioware tires really hard to be progressive in its portrayal of minorities and other disenfranchised groups in video games, and spends a lot of time talking about it and advocating for change in the industry. But they do not appear to be walking the walk, here, and are falling back on the very same cliches that the real world (and the game-making world) uses to explain the lack of women in the public sphere.
We call them out on it because we expect better from the company who allowed Manveer Heir to make such a passionate and reasoned call for equality at GDC. They talk a good game, and we expect them to play one.
That's all well and good and you all talk a good game but a big factor here is that you all have yet to actually play their game, and so you are coming to some rather damning accusations based on a number alone, ignoring practically everything else that actually makes up this game.
It is one thing to lament about the 2:1 ratio and how that limits the player's ability to shake up their party groupings without heavily relying on the 3 female companions to prevent a sausage fest. That much is clear at this point. But that's pretty much where this should all end because not a single one of us has even the slightest inkling as to how things in the game will play out and what role each character has in it.
We know nothing about how each companion relates to the story and overall plot, nor the NPCs and how little or great their interactions may be with us. We know nothing of their personalities or back stories, how they progress through the game and interact with us and other NPCs, nor how their gender informs these interactions. Not to mention the fact that no one here is privy to how the writers develop these NPCs, companions and story of this game. Or how easy, or likely hard, it is for them to just swap in or swap out companions or change their gender or race to satisfy parity.
Cole is a great example of how many in this topic have just ignored the characterization element to all this. He is a fade spirit manifest in the form of a man, but we know next to nothing about him as a being or how he is portrayed in this game and whether or not his corporeal form will have a significant bearing on his identity and character, yet he is lumped in with the men to emphasize this 6:3 atrocity, when it could easily be 5:3 and Cole, which isn't too far off from what you had in DA2 if you were a mage up until Carver left to be a Templar. Which brings up another point that we have no idea how available all of our companions will be throughout the game, one of them might die, or not join us for much of the game or they may leave early on for one reason or another, we simply don't know anything.
Another good example of the importance of characterization on the NPC side is someone like David Anderson from ME series. He was a companion for all of like 20 minutes and throughout the entire series didn't really command much of any screen time, yet his portrayal and role within the series and story made him an indelible and critical part of the experience, so much so that those final scenes of ME3 were far more impactful and emotional because of him, and for many were much more meaningful than many of the the Squadmates you had spent hours with and had delved greatly into their back story and lives with deep dialogue and personal missions. The same could very well occur in DAI with some of these major NPCs.
So basically my point is, until we all actually play the game and see what kind of characters and story BioWare has created and how it all relates to one another, I find this entire topic to be very vein and disingenuous and quite frankly it comes off as extremely shallow and petty.
Meanwhile I very much wanted a 5:4 ratio, with another non-human female companion, and you all may very well be right and BioWare has failed to "walk the walk," but right now, with how little we actually know of the game, hyperfocusing on numbers without context and throwing such serious accusations at BioWare just feels very foolhardy. In 6 months after we've all played the game and seen all that it has to offer by all means resurrect this topic and all those like it if it is truly warranted, I will gladly throw my support and voice my dissatisfaction, but until such time I'm going to take BioWare at their word.
Due to Iron Bull having left the Qun, as opposed to the Qunari Inquisitior who was never part of it. The whole character would be very very different if they were female because of gender roles in the Qun. The only women that see any sort of regular combat are people like Tallis, and they would be much more suited to being spies then warriors if they left the Qun.
The decision for iron bull to be a huge hulking warrior, the decision for a huge hulking warrior in general, kinda made it predestined to be a role for a male. Not trying to be sexist here but when it comes to thinking of that sort of character, more often people will think of The Mountain then they will Brinne of Tarth, just to throw a bit of game of thrones in the mix.
Brienne of Tarth I only saw a few clips of her and I'm in love.
It ALMOST tempts me to watch GoT.
Almost.
Brienne of Tarth I only saw a few clips of her and I'm in love.
It ALMOST tempts me to watch GoT.
Almost.
Boromir, Charles Dance, and Peter Dinklage isn't enough?
Game of thrones.
Come for the awesome characters.
Stay for the heartbreak of those characters dying.
Only women?
Well, I'm not a woman, so there goes that "presumption" of yours. lmao
I love watching blanket statements get torn to shreds with a single well-placed comment. Here's a like for you and thank you for that.
This is why blanket statements are bad. Adding "some" or "most" or "in my experience" to your posts goes a long way.
Boromir, Charles Dance, and Peter Dinklage isn't enough?
Nope. Too depressing.
The decision for iron bull to be a huge hulking warrior, the decision for a huge hulking warrior in general, kinda made it predestined to be a role for a male. Not trying to be sexist here but when it comes to thinking of that sort of character, more often people will think of The Mountain then they will Brinne of Tarth, just to throw a bit of game of thrones in the mix.
The difference is. You could make the Mountain a Woman and it could still work in universe without much being changed, besides the unpleasent implications of having a Giant now Lesbian Rapist Murderer but whatever. Iron Bull being Gender flipped completely breaks setting unless you drastically change them into something else.
Nope. Too depressing.
There's some good moments to counteract the depression lol
There's some good moments to counteract the depression lol
But then I hear people crying in agony a few days later. Not for me. 
But then I hear people crying in agony a few days later. Not for me.
Watch the show womyn lol
I didn't at all really, mostly because I figured the Iron Bull would be a real companion.
To be honest, the design of the Qunari female, at least the mockup we saw earlier, is very impractical and more sexist than this entire discussion is. What type of warrior or mage wears straps like that along her chest?! it's almost like a chainmail bikini, just with leather straps.
To be fair, almost all Qunari warriors in DA2 ran around bare-chested showing off their 300-level chiseled abs. So it's not like the race is any stranger to the eye candy. Clothes are not a demand of the Qun, apparently.
Also, I'm digging the Game of Thrones references. You know, i would actually like a Brienne of Tarth-esque companion. Just make her less painfully naive; the show version is better than the book version on that front IMO. Cassandra fits the badass woman in heavy armor type but she's not the hulking, homely mass of muscle Brienne is.
The difference is. You could make the Mountain a Woman and it could still work in universe without much being changed, besides the unpleasent implications of having a Giant now Lesbian Rapist Murderer but whatever. Iron Bull being Gender flipped completely breaks setting unless you drastically change them into something else.
For dragon age it probably wouldn't change much, for game of thrones it would change pretty much everything of their intentionally sexist power structure(because george wants you to know that westeros is not a good place to live, and is very far from fair.).
Though you would lose some of the largeness of the character by making them female, such as the broad shoulders, and massive abdominal and muscular structure that marks them as tall and wide and looking like a mountain of muscle. Or worse, make their hugeness come out in other ways, and giving the term "Mountain Range" and entirely new meaning.
The difference is. You could make the Mountain a Woman and it could still work in universe without much being changed, besides the unpleasent implications of having a Giant now Lesbian Rapist Murderer but whatever.
Not ... really? I mean, women can commit rape, but they don't really have the right equipment to be THAT kind of rapist.
I'm trying to envision this giant lesbian rapist and all I'm coming up with either a character in a Game of Thrones parody, the villain in a well-cast women in prison porno or one of the "heroines" of a Russ Meyer movie. (Faster, Brienne of Tarth, Kill, Kill?)
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