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[Cainhurst Crow]

Not ... really? I mean, women can commit rape, but they don't really have the right equipment to be THAT kind of rapist.

 

I'm trying to envision this giant lesbian rapist you mention, and I'm coming up with either a Game of Thrones parody, an "women in prison" porno or a Russ Meyer movie. (Faster, Brienne of Tarth, Kill, Kill?)

 

I'd probably be poor rhaegar the mountain gets, instead of rhaegar's wife. Or possibly still rhaegar's wife. Also the implications with sandor would be so creepy.

 

For example, "Sandor hates his older sister, because when they were children she _____ his _____ in the _______. Some children are born with a talent for violence."

[TheCreeper]

For dragon age it probably wouldn't change much, for game of thrones it would change pretty much everything of their intentionally sexist power structure(because george wants you to know that westeros is not a good place to live, and is very far from fair.).

 

Though you would lose some of the largeness of the character by making them female, such as the broad shoulders, and massive abdominal and muscular structure that marks them as tall and wide and looking like a mountain of muscle. Or worse, make their hugeness come out in other ways, and giving the term "Mountain Range" and entirely new meaning.

No that's Very wrong. In GOT, they may be sexist but Brienne of Tarth is allowed to exist (although faces a lot of problems because of the life she chose and if I remember right was an officially anointed knight. You could not have someone like the Iron Bull come out of the Qun if they were a woman because Women raised in the Qun are never allowed to be a Warrior because it is seen as a waste of their talents. Sure you could make them come from some other career or have them come from somewhere other than the Qunari but then they would not be the Iron Bull. 

 

edit: The above conversation has been taken in a direction I never intended it to go.

[Ryzaki]

Watch the show womyn lol

 

NOPE.

[Cainhurst Crow]

No that's Very wrong. In GOT, they may be sexist but Brienne of Tarth is allowed to exist (although faces a lot of problems because of the life she chose and if I remember right was an officially anointed knight. You could not have someone like the Iron Bull come out of the Qun if they were a woman because Women raised in the Qun are never allowed to be a Warrior because it is seen as a waste of their talents. Sure you could make them come from some other career or have them come from somewhere other than the Qunari but then they would not be the Iron Bull. 

 

A very excellent point, regarding the qunari. I hadn't considered that.

 

As for the mountain, well it would come down to whether anyone would see the practicality and be clear headed enough to see the opportunity had. The lannisters might not be so prone to have such a violation of the norm so publicly visible. And I believe brinne was a knight due to the person knighting her and such being a much more open mind on such matters. ((Poor, Poor, Renly. He might have made a good king)).

[Grieving Natashina]

This has been a weird read.  We went from "why there is no Quanri ladies" to discussing/debating/bickering over representation in the DA games, to rape, to GOT spoilers.  Folks wonder why I'm entertained by the Scuttlebutt section of the forums.  

[TheCreeper]

This has been a weird read.  We went from "why there is no Quanri ladies" to discussing/debating/bickering over representation in the DA games, to rape, to GOT spoilers.  Folks wonder why I'm entertained by the Scuttlebutt section of the forums.  

What I've learned is that I make overly distracting comparisons.

[Grieving Natashina]

What I've learned is that I make overly distracting comparisons.

Could be worse.

[Giantdeathrobot]

A very excellent point, regarding the qunari. I hadn't considered that.

 

As for the mountain, well it would come down to whether anyone would see the practicality and be clear headed enough to see the opportunity had. The lannisters might not be so prone to have such a violation of the norm so publicly visible. And I believe brinne was a knight due to the person knighting her and such being a much more open mind on such matters. ((Poor, Poor, Renly. He might have made a good king)).

 

Renly did think she was ridiculous in private (in the books), but when someone can beat the snot out of Loras in single combat you want them protecting your royal arse.

 

And apart from the Qunari, Thedas is certainly much less sexist than GRRM's world. Female heads of religion? Empresses with no limit to her power because ladyparts? The equivalent of female Maesters (First Enchanters and scribes)? Women fighters being dime a dozen rather than exceptionally rare? Women in position of power in military organisations like the Seeker, the Templars and the Grey Wardens? That stuff is just not happening in Westeros, just as it almost never happened in real life medieval Europe which both settings are based on. And even then, the Qunari are less sexist than pushing gender roles to the logical extreme, as I see it at least.

[Grieving Natashina]

Renly did think she was ridiculous in private (in the books), but when someone can beat the snot out of Loras in single combat you want them protecting your royal arse.

 

And apart from the Qunari, Thedas is certainly much less sexist than GRRM's world. Female heads of religion? Empresses with no limit to her power because ladyparts? The equivalent of female Maesters (First Enchanters and scribes)? Women fighters being dime a dozen rather than exceptionally rare? Women in position of power in military organisations like the Seeker, the Templars and the Grey Wardens? That stuff is just not happening in Westeros, just as it almost never happened in real life medieval Europe which both settings are based on. And even then, the Qunari are less sexist than pushing gender roles to the logical extreme, as I see it at least.

What don't the Quanri push to the logical extreme?

[Cainhurst Crow]

Renly did think she was ridiculous in private (in the books), but when someone can beat the snot out of Loras in single combat you want them protecting your royal arse.

 

And apart from the Qunari, Thedas is certainly much less sexist than GRRM's world. Female heads of religion? Empresses with no limit to her power because ladyparts? The equivalent of female Maesters (First Enchanters and scribes)? Women fighters being dime a dozen rather than exceptionally rare? Women in position of power in military organisations like the Seeker, the Templars and the Grey Wardens? That stuff is just not happening in Westeros, just as it almost never happened in real life medieval Europe which both settings are based on. And even then, the Qunari are less sexist than pushing gender roles to the logical extreme, as I see it at least.

 

It makes sense, if you've read plato's thoughts on the ideal government. The qunari are pretty much a heavy borrowing and mild alteration of plato's republic, with philosopher rulers being able to be both genders(religious sect), the military being composed of all men(arishock sect), the producer class having more rights then the other classes to express themselves but less political power (merchent sect). Everyone's children are raised by the state, parents and children do not know each others identities, and reproductive sex is done through arranged breeding. Its all there.

[David Gaider]

This has been a weird read.  We went from "why there is no Quanri ladies" to discussing/debating/bickering over representation in the DA games, to rape, to GOT spoilers.

 

Yep. I think this thread has run its course.