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Uneven companion number. #NO QUNARI FEMALE!?


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Companions are always the most fleshed out, beloved and talked about characters, so yeah, its a bummer to not have more women in the party, regardless of who anyone wants to romance. It does seem that the adviser characters are fairly large NPC's though, so that does help things a bit...a little...I don't believe Bioware should have a quota, and obviously the task of populating a world is daunting and huge, and I certainly have the up most respect for that. However I do disagree with the idea that there could be too many women in power/prevalent in the world. I'm also confused since I was under the impression most leadership dies in the opening hour of the game haha, but anyways,  it would be fun to have more female companions and voices out there in the trenches fighting along side you, but I'm sure, that as always, I'll still enjoy every single one of the companions.

 

And yeah, if it had been a female Qunari that would have been awesome! But then again, I'm also excited that on my fem qunari playthroughs (and there will be MANY), I'll be a super special snowflake in the group. And I'll drink Iron Bull under the table :whistle: and beat him in any sort of Qunari headbutting shows of strength etc. She will *hopefully* romance Sera and it will be adorable. :wub:


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There are two female "advisors" and only one male. So at least they have the advantage there...


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#153
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tell how this makes sense to you? not trying to be a smart A, i really want to know how you got here. Im talking about a companion who is her own person and not controlle by me. why would that make sense. If i make a qunari female then she is not a companion sh she is my avatar. But if she is a companion than she would be her own person and not controlled by me get it? Plus thats not all i want. i dont agree with just 3 female's. and no, i do not think females get the short end of the stick in any bioware game. nor do i think women have been treated unfair. the only people on this thread saying that are the hardcore feminist.

If it's about personality, why does the companion need to be "hot?" If it's about learning about the Qunari, why would the companion need to be female? You want someone hot to look at, make one and fulfill all your own fanservice by making her lesbian romance Vivienne and run around in a bikini or something.


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I'm curious Mr Gaider if you would indulge me about how you design characters on the most basic level.

 

From what I've seen on your Tumblr you give out basic concepts and roles the character which the character will fill out. But what else is detailed in that profile? Is is just the concept and roles or is it things such as gender, race (if not specified by the role).



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Insofar as the OP's desire for a Qunari female character—I hear you, believe me. Sometimes it seems like we can never fit enough awesome concepts in one game. :)

That's what Dragon Age 4 is for!  :wizard:



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If it's about personality, why does the companion need to be "hot?" If it's about learning about the Qunari, why would the companion need to be female? You want someone hot to look at, make one and fulfill all your own fanservice by making her lesbian romance Vivienne and run around in a bikini or something.

 

^^^^^^^^

 

That's the plan!  :P



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Personally I get uncomfortable once the discussion about new companions is splitting the into a mathematic expression for the same of equality. That makes it seem mass produced rather than an organic extension of the writing process. Splitting nine companions evenly among the classes makes sense, splitting them evenly between all races and genders sounds forced and IMO contrived.

Not to say I don't want to explore the other races, or that I'm not bummed by the lack of female characters. I was really hoping for a female qunari companion for the sheer fascination of what that would entail and the interesting stories that would come with it. Ah well maybe in an expansion or sequel.

As a side extension of the conversation I do believe there is a need for more strong female characters. Bioware has done a great job for dragon age so far. Although I don't think an increase in good female characters will happen organically until more women are propagated throughout the gaming industry. Until that happens (and maybe even after) this will be a subject that gets the constant go around.
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That's what Dragon Age 4 is for!  :wizard:

 

or DLC



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or DLC

They've said there will be no DLC companions.



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They've said there will be no DLC companions.

 

I don't mean DLC companion



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I'm out of likes but basically everything Natashina has said is how I feel about it (If I could I would like all your posts but like quota. :( ) My disappointment in the 6:3 gender ratio for companions is because for me they are a huge part of the game experience and are mostly with you for much of the game meaning you get to see a lot more of them than any other character. I'd also like to see more diversity among the races of the companions and we've barely seen a female dwarf let alone a female qunari, it would be interesting to see how they view the world too.

 

Also agree with Nashiktal that bioware has done a good job of strong female characters in the past and I'd like to see more of them in the future (Including DAI of course because I'm sure I'll like the girls in this one too). If I had likes left I'd like Nashiktal's post and all of Mes's posts too.  

 

Oh and Oceanicsurvivor's post too... So likes all round  ;)  


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If it's about personality, why does the companion need to be "hot?" If it's about learning about the Qunari, why would the companion need to be female? You want someone hot to look at, make one and fulfill all your own fanservice by making her lesbian romance Vivienne and run around in a bikini or something.

ima straight guy meaing i like hot women. from what i have seen in the comics the quanri women are hot with interesting personality. i think your trying to be politically correct or something sorry not here. not gay women. but a qunari female just seems cool to me.



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or DLC

it just makes no sense for them to finally introduce female qunari and not make one a companion.



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samara_dragon_age_crossover_by_dayas_mix

Is this authentic or fanmade?



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Is this authentic or fanmade?

 

I'm guessing fanmade, considering that it's Samara with horns.


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So... only three female companions because there are already supposedly important female NPCs out there? Some sound reasoning there. I thought one of the recent interviews actually spoilered that both the leader of the Chantry and the Circle get killed off during a peace conference, at the very beginning of the story. So two of those very powerful and important women die at the start of the game? Are they qucikly replaced or something?

Even if every function of power was occupied by a female character, I still would care far less about them than about the companions. As others have already said, the companions get the most screentime, the most dialogue, and they are the ones you can develop relationships (not just romance) with. Maybe the game will surprise me, but I highly doubt I will be able to chat away and exchange gossip with the Empress of Orlais.


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So... only three female companions because there are already supposedly important female NPCs out there? Some sound reasoning there. I thought one of the recent interviews actually spoilered that both the leader of the Chantry and the Circle get killed off during a peace conference, at the very beginning of the story. So two of those very powerful and important women die at the start of the game? Are they qucikly replaced or something?
Even if every function of power was occupied by a female character, I still would care far less about them than about the companions. As others have already said, the companions get the most screentime, the most dialogue, and they are the ones you can develop relationships (not just romance) with. Maybe the game will surprise me, but I highly doubt I will be able to chat away and exchange gossip with the Empress of Orlais.

The 'importan non-followers' people are talking about, I guess, are Leliana and SG, who wil be part of the Inquisition and probably have a lot of screentime, as well as the possibility to have dialogues with them and build relationships (likely romance with SG). And it seems they'll follow you outside keeps too, since Leliana was present in a camp Shot.
Still not the same as being a companion, but better than what we'd have with Celene, Anora or Briala if they're in the game

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Considering Inquisition takes place in a world where many (if not most) of the world's power players are female (the ruler of Orlais, the head of the Chantry and the Circle of Magi, possibly the ruler of Ferelden and others...not to mention the many characters outside of the party with whom you will also be deeply involved. I can honestly say I don't think we're doing badly on that front, not enough to feel we should switch the gender of a character concept we like to hit an arbitary number in this one group of characters. It sounds like it might be easy to do, but that's never been how character concepts come to be--we're not just flipping switches on a variety of grids until we hit some perfect balance for every desire and then writing interesting stories.

 

 

The 'importan non-followers' people are talking about, I guess, are Leliana and SG, who wil be part of the Inquisition and probably have a lot of screentime, as well as the possibility to have dialogues with them and build relationships (likely romance with SG). And it seems they'll follow you outside keeps too, since Leliana was present in a camp Shot.
Still not the same as being a companion, but better than what we'd have with Celene, Anora or Briala if they're in the game

 

Gaider himself seems to consider the Empress and the leader of the Chantry as valid reason for no more female companions.


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Gaider himself seems to consider the Empress and the leader of the Chantry as valid reason for no more female companions.

I was referring to what people are saying there though. And I didn't interpret Gaider's words as those non/followers being the reason of three female companions, but just that the game has still a lot to major female characters.
We still get two major-non Follower that we'll be with us and that which we'll have dialogues and possibility to build relationships. How much dialogues the three (two women) non-followers will have in the game, we'll be able to know only after the game will be released.

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I wanted to romance a qt female qunari companion ;_;. The female companions are fugly imo



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Gaider himself seems to consider the Empress and the leader of the Chantry as valid reason for no more female companions.

 

Again, it seems to me that DG is saying that Bioware considers gender representation to be about diversity in the game as a whole in terms of what we might call "prominent figures" rather than just party-NPCs. 



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Again, it seems to me that DG is saying that Bioware considers gender representation to be about diversity in the game as a whole in terms of what we might call "prominent figures" rather than just party-NPCs. 

 

And again, I get that, but I disagree.


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My only real issue with the companion lineup diversity-wise is that the only dwarf companion is one we have already had as a companion in the past. Other than that it looks to be the most promising companion lineup we've had so far. 



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I'm just disppointed they're still going with a majority being humans with a token member of each of the other races (though I think we're getting two elves?). A female qunari companion would be awesome, but I wouldn't say no to two male qunari instead.



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In my opinion there is a huge difference between 3/6 and 4/5 one is twice as much for one. The other is less, goodness knows we expect to get less, but not twice as less. And yes great woman characters around are great, but no one cares about the side characters half as much as the main characters. Duncan being, maybe, an exception.

Wishing for almost half, and getting twice as less is sad and depressing. It isnt the number so much as the equality. I can have two all male teams before one all female team. Or twice as many characters to fill any role before the female character of the same class. And even more, I feel obligated to love to pieces every single female character there is, because there are so few of them in comparison.

Sera isnt the girl with the bow, she is the only female rogue. Cassandra isnt a tough woman who can handle herself, she is the only female warrior. And Vivienne isnt a mage who can run Orlais if she tried, she is my only female mage. I cant afford to like or dislike them. They will be scrutinized, hated, and there are too many guys otherwise.

And besides that, almost every game there are fewer, Origins... More guys. Awakening...more guys, Dragon age 2... More guys but only barely. Mass effect...even, mass effect 2 ... More guys on a 6(although that is being generous because Morinth and Samara really only have half content due to their interexchableness) to 7, Mass effect 3 even ( although gameplay favored guys)

So out of recent franchises, 2 even, 2 close to even, and 2 not even at all. Most women expect close to even, and the idea it could ever be imbalaced for us a daring proposition we not even dream of. We get that. But for it to be so lopsided is depressing. Also the fact that a given character concept must be male, as if the reason female characters are so misrepresented isnt because the cool concepts are "male by default" All the male characters not previously established could be women stories.

There is nothing about a "male concept" or story that is essentially male. It is just a concept, that is perceived to be male. I dont know. I guess I thought Bioware understood that. Im sorry, it just hurt.
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