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[Chealec]

If you agreed, then why bother writing the essay? My comment was obviously a response to his. You can't just ignore the context.

 

Salmon

[OniGanon]

You must be encountering different Puggernauts from me.

 

The ones I see are the type to run the hell away from Banshees and spend 6 seconds meleeing every Husk they see.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

Salmon

Apologies. I didn't really have a good reason to come at you harshly.

[Miniditka77]

I don't mind them either.  I personally couldn't stand to do what they do, going through match after match doing nothing but holding the B button.  If I were at their level, I'd rather get less credits having fun in Silver than Puggernauting through Gold or Plat.  But they do make my life easier, and I often don't have to use that many consumables in matches with them, which is more than you can say for the majority of Gold PUG players.

[Ghost Of N7_SP3CTR3]

let me clean it up.

So maybe it's just my opinion about the most powerful kit....I just am not by any stretch of the imagination a normal puggernaut.I find it easy to knock down 150-200k points every game with him.So I see it as an extremely powerful kit.

[Pheabus2009]

Agreed. I actually like to see Juggs on Plat pugs, or Gold pugs when I'm testing new builds, a big hex shield in the back when I'm doing devices is priceless.

If I'm using a glass canon build, such as the GI or DAI, a jugg in the team usually helps me get very high score.

[q5tyhj]

Put a Javelin on it and then reconsider.     My last 8 or so games with it, I topped the scoreboard every game except for one - that one I left in wave 2 because of excessive lag.

 

Being able to top the scoreboard hardly makes it "one of the most powerful kits in the game", relative to all the others. Most good players should be able to top the scoreboard in PUGs with pretty much any kit. The question is whether you can kill more/faster/score higher with the Juggernaut than you could with any other kit, with the same weapon and level of equipment, and the answer in almost every case is "no".

 

Doesn't mean its a bad kit- I still enjoy it. It just is fairly lacking in killing power (which it easily makes up for in survivability... and the whole "cool" factor of playing as a gigantic robot). 

 

Also, I agree with the OP 100%. Way rather see a Puggernaut than a filthy grenade-stealing AIU or a Krogan vanguard with a Kishock (had one of the latter last night, he must've died 3-4 times per wave, EVERY wave). 

[Jenova65]

Never fails to amaze me the things BSN can find to quibble about, lol
 

The thing about it all, as far as I can see is that the many different classes and many different characters within the classes is to cater for a variety of different play styles, so that everyone that loves playing can find something they can contribute to the game with. 

 

I like juggernauts! I don't like volus, my survivability as a volus is about .5 of a second... but hey, I've seen a couple of players surprise me and RogueState with the way they play, I am happy to be proven wrong when I make snap judgements lol.... they were impressive to watch

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

Ummm ... was responding to your "score means jack ... " - score does mean something, it means you're killing more things than other people but that's it. So yeah, a Juggernaut can top the scoreboard, in the same way a Vorcha Hunter, Volus Vanguard or anything else can top the scoreboard given the right circumstances (better player, got lucky on the map/enemy, whatever).

 

Doesn't mean the Juggy is a powerful points-monster - agree with you on that point.

It really depends. Top score can often mean simply that you're the one off solo scorewhoring while everyone else is doing the objectives.

 

Apologies. I didn't really have a good reason to come at you harshly.

This is BSN. No reason is required.

[me0120]

I still don't like them. The game feels different when there's a puggernaut in the game.

[ThatOddGuy]

Salmon

Tuna

[ThatOddGuy]

I use the Juggernaut when I don't feel like wasting consumables. I also use him when I want to get better with odd weapons.

 

I am now a huge Crusader fan. Thank you Juggs!

 

I like using or having Puggernaut allies. For all-around utility, he is one of the best kits in the game. He may not be the most effective at dishing out damage, but if you are able to use your size to draw ridiculous amounts of aggro, you can really start doing some damage.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

I still don't like them. The game feels different when there's a puggernaut in the game.

It's not about liking them for me. It's just that I'd rather have one than some of the PUGs I tend to run into. If you're going to play badly, you may as well be a good distraction.

[ALTBOULI]

I saw one get taken out by a rocket trooper once.

Burn! I was just about to bring that up to 

[smeckie]

Burn! I was just about to bring that up to 

Please tell me it was Scrubsar

[megabeast37215]

It's not about liking them for me. It's just that I'd rather have one than some of the PUGs I tend to run into. If you're going to play badly, you may as well be a good distraction.

That's pretty much where I'm coming from.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

Burn! I was just about to bring that up to 

 

I have no recollection of said event.

[ALTBOULI]

Please tell me it was Scrubsar

 

Nope it was B00g13scrub 

[crashsuit]

To be fair, rocket troopers are dirty cheating bastards. Last night I had two of them targeting me at once, while I was cloaked.

[smeckie]

Burn! I was just about to bring that up to 

Nvm. It wasn't Husar or b00g13man<-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Yes it was.

[Jenova65]

To be fair, rocket troopers are dirty cheating bastards. Last night I had two of them targeting me at once, while I was cloaked.

^ *nods sagely* 

[ALTBOULI]

I have no recollection of said event.

 

You were too busy bleeding out like a scrub

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

Nvm. It wasn't Husar or b00g13man<-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Yes it was.

 

It's not as straightforward as it sounds. I unfortunately got caught out in the open by two Primes, who happened to take me down to healthgate. The double-tapping rocket trooper did the rest. The funniest thing was I'd literally just said "How on Earth do people get downed playing the Juggy" a few seconds earlier.

[megabeast37215]

It's not as straightforward as it sounds. I unfortunately got caught out in the open by two Primes, who happened to take me down to healthgate. The double-tappimg rocket trooper did the rest. The funniest thing was I'd literally just said "How on Earth do people get downed playing the Juggy" a few seconds earlier.

Y U no big shield?

[robarcool]

Amen. Big fat moving decoys are always welcome