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[thedancingdruid]

The timeline and map markers...http://www.dragonage...n_US/events?i=3 and now the subsequent article with Cameron Lee http://www.ausgamers...es/read/3432915

have me a tad bit worried...

 

(From the timeline on the official site)

"The Inquisition is founded around this time. The loose association of Andrastian hard-liners hunt heretics and mages in the name of the Maker."

 

(From AusGamers' interview with Lee)

"...as I understand it the first inquisition was during a time of a lot of chaos, and there was no Chantry so to speak and Mages were obviously running rampant and going mental. So it was originally more a vigilante group. So within that vigilante group you had the persecution of mages to a degree"

 

Further in the article...

 

"So the formation of the inquisition is kind of always like a plan B that the head of the Chantry was considering, and then Cassandra starts to bring this all up after the events at the temple. And she's doing that because she knows that the Chantry was considering it..."

 

Not to mention at least four, what might be considered "hard-line" chantry-type companions/followers/agents, Cassandra, Leliana, Vivienne and Cullen.

 

Is there cause for concern?

[wolfhowwl]

Is there cause for concern?

 

There is nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide.

 

You're not a blood mage, are you?

[Heimdall]

The first two quotes are about the 1000 year gone pre-chantry incarnation of the Inquisition.

 

Not really, if Lee's interview is to be believed, the Divine is probably going to die in the Intro.  The chantry has been effectively beheaded and the remnants are scrambling to elect a new leader.  I got the impression that Cassandra wants to reinstitute the Inquisition because she wants to get things done, not argue about who should be in charge of the sinking ship.  Your companions may have their opinions, but I wouldn't read that as a signal for lack of neutrality.

[Autumn Crowe]

Seeing as I plan on playing a Sarebaas first run through, my Inquisitor probably won't be on the Templar side.  ;D

[thats1evildude]

If you're hoping to play a game where you don't oppose or ally with anyone, then yeah, I would jettison those expectations.

 

Personally, I don't trust anyone professing to neutrality. With enemies, you know where you stand, but with neutrals? Who knows! It sickens me.

[ArtemisMoons]

You're not going to be forced to side with the Chantry/Templars, if that's what you're concerned about. 

[robertthebard]

Nothing to fear.  So one companion has an opinion that seems to disagree with you, and you're ready to throw the baby out with the bath water?

[Han Shot First]

Seeing as I plan on playing a Sarebaas first run through, my Inquisitor probably won't be on the Templar side.  ;D

 

The Qunari Inquisitor was born outside the Qun to Tal Vashoth parents. 

 

Saarebas are leashed mages found only amongst devotees of the Qun religion, who also have their mouths sewn shut. Since a mage Qunari Inquisitor was born a Vashoth, he or she won't be a Sarebaas. (that is a good thing...it means you actually get spoken dialogue rather than grunts) 

[LobselVith8]

Well, it seems like the Inquisition is pretty much created in the spirit of Justinia's Chantry by Cassandra. Leliana and Cullen are likely handpicked by Cassandra, and I'd wager that Cassandra's soldiers are the initial members of the Inquisition. The Inquisitor doesn't seem to play much of a role in the inception of the organization, aside from being chosen to be the leader. I'd assume the religious connotations surrounding the main character surviving the catastrophe at a "holy place" will play a role in why the protagonist becomes the leader.

[Heimdall]

Well, it seems like the Inquisition is pretty much created in the spirit of Justinia's Chantry by Cassandra. Leliana and Cullen are likely handpicked by Cassandra, and I'd wager that Cassandra's soldiers are the initial members of the Inquisition. The Inquisitor doesn't seem to play much of a role in the inception of the organization, aside from being chosen to be the leader. I'd assume the religious connotations surrounding the main character surviving the catastrophe at a "holy place" will play a role in why the protagonist becomes the leader.

Probably.

Cameron Lee's interview made it sound like something the Divine was toying with and Cassandra decided to implement. Frankly, I'm still a bit unsure why Cassandra would give leadership to our PC, especially considering her initial hostility in the trailer, but I'm guessing some opportunity arises for the PC to show their worth, or someone else won't accept Cassandra as the leader or some such.

What I want to know is why a Dalish PC would be at the conference in the first place, considering it seems to be between Mages and the Chantry. Bringing some sort of petition/demand to the Divine uninvited maybe?

[thedancingdruid]

@Wolfhowwl Ha, ha, you got me, now that you mention it, my warden didn't have an agreement with the chantry to provide lyrium to the grey wardens and did feel that a warden would find the ability to use her blood, or the blood of the darkspawn to power through the masses to get to the archdemon an acceptable trade in lieu of the lack of lyrium, though, in DA:O, elfroot was in abundance so she didn't really need it after all. Truth be told, however, storm of the century could be exhausting. And, my Hawke may have well have been since no one ever noticed she was a mage.

 

@LordAesir So, in your opinion, Cassandra will have a different idea about the Inquisition and it won't be aligned with the beliefs of the Chantry?

 

@Autumn Crowe I enjoy playing mages so my characters generally have quite a dislike of the Qunari, especially Arvaraad, and though the new Inquisitor will be Vashoth, my Hawkes have not had the greatest impression of Tal-Vashoth to date, though Maraas was tolerable.

 

@thats1evildude Allies are all swell depending on circumstances I just may wish to choose to be wholeheartedly against the Chantry and its teachings and feel that might not be possible.

 

@robertthebard I would never throw out a baby: real, plastic, or otherwise.

 

@Puddikoma I sincerely disagree Cassandra and Leliana being "hands" of the Divine very much make them Chantry dogma followers, Vivienne as a top member of the circle was no doubt an Aequitarian, though maybe I'm incorrect, and Cullen, who I do like by the way, only stood up in the last minutes of the game, though I have no doubt even so he would still eat Chantry pie.

[Maria Caliban]

I don't think anyone has said the Inquisition will be a neutral organization.

[LobselVith8]

Probably.
Cameron Lee's interview made it sound like something the Divine was toying with and Cassandra decided to implement. Frankly, I'm still a bit unsure why Cassandra would give leadership to our PC, especially considering her initial hostility in the trailer, but I'm guessing some opportunity arises for the PC to show their worth, or someone else won't accept Cassandra as the leader or some such.
What I want to know is why a Dalish PC would be at the conference in the first place, considering it seems to be between Mages and the Chantry. Bringing some sort of petition/demand to the Divine uninvited maybe?

Possibly. Lambert's templars may be an issue for the Dalish because of their free mages, especially if it's fractured into different groups in his absence, or it could involve Briala's efforts to free the elves, leading to a Dalish presence as a possible neutral party in the human-elven conflict.

[thedancingdruid]

@LobselVith8 Agreed, so the worrying stands unabated.

[Heimdall]

 
@LordAesir So, in your opinion, Cassandra will have a different idea about the Inquisition and it won't be aligned with the beliefs of the Chantry?

From what we've heard, the Chantry is hardly a unified entity at the moment, so I doubt you'll have to worry too much about Cassandra or anyone else demanding the Inquisition bow to Chantry authority.

I imagine Cassandra's beliefs will be similar to Justinia's beliefs, since reviving the Inquisition was apparently Justinia's idea. Beyond that, who's to say how close those ideas are to the rest of the Chantry? Look at her fellow "hand", Leliana's beliefs are outright heretical according to the most orthodox among the Chantry.

[thedancingdruid]

@Maria Caliban I'm pretty sure it was one of the first concerns raised by the BSN, and someone, somewhere, in the know, said not to worry the PC would not be forced to agree with the Chantry, though DG did say the Maker does exist in the DA world.

[Maria Caliban]

@Maria Caliban I'm pretty sure it was one of the first concerns raised by the BSN, and someone, somewhere, in the know, said not to worry the PC would not be forced to agree with the Chantry...

That doesn't make you a neutral organization.

...though DG did say the Maker does exist in the DA world.

No. Nope. Never.

[Mihura]

Your organization is called Inquisition, I think that is a clue. During the game you probably going to have some room to side with this or that faction but it does seems to be more connect with the chantry and templars. 

[Mornmagor]

Cassandra probably wants something specific. She's a Seeker. It's a possibility she will clash with us about the direction of the Inquisition.

[thedancingdruid]

@Lord Aesir That may indeed be true, though still hard to swallow for a Dalish or Vashoth PC.

[Heimdall]

@Lord Aesir That may indeed be true, though still hard to swallow for a Dalish or Vashoth PC.

True enough. I suspect the PC will be too caught up with saving the world and gaining allies to become terribly concerned by it though.

[thedancingdruid]

@Maria Caliban There was a thread regarding whether one could or could not be an atheist and DG chimed in when someone stated that Morrigan was a good example of an atheist, that while that may indeed be true it doesn't mean the Maker doesn't exist. The PC can choose not to believe in the Maker but the Maker still existed in the DA universe.

[Heimdall]

@Maria Caliban There was a thread regarding whether one could or could not be an atheist and DG chimed in when someone stated the Morrigan was a good example of an atheist, that while that may indeed be true it doesn't mean the Maker doesn't exist. The PC can choose not to believe in the Maker but the Maker still existed in the DA universe.

He never confirmed that the maker existed, as I recall. All I remember him saying was that Morrigan's disbelief in the maker didn't necessarily mean she was an atheist.