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[Zubi Fett]

Hello and thank you for coming by,

 

I would like to speak and present one matter which can be resume on the next line:

 

How can sex and nudity be a tabu and blowing up a mans head off be a "cool thing"?

 

I create this topic to discuss this matter and seek opinions rather than sending a message to game developers or on this case, BioWare. As I'm sure this matter is probably chose from EA, a business decision.

 

Going back to the matter; The human body is treated as if it was a terrible thing along with sex, where the scenes avoid the male/female parts yet we see the animation of a head turning into peaces with all detail when getting shot with a sniper.

 

I think this is clearly a social thought remain from the dark age when the church on power did pursue the classic ways and "pagan believes", however I'm yet amaze how a beautiful thing such as sex is presented in all media as a terrible tabu and killing other people is acceptable. 

 

Don't take me wrong, I'm not saying that fights are terrible thing to be presented, a mature history must be presented as it will be on life it self(what will a video-game be with out it!?). But accepting this on violence and not on nudity and sex is childish.

 

In my opinion, if this tabu will be defeated all related to it will feel natural as it should be. Any scene of nudity or sex in any video-game or other media feel extremely artificial this days.

 

What do you think about it?

 

 

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

It is a little absurd that people are ok with violence and recoil at nudity.


Also part of me thought this was going to be a picture of that ball girl again.

[mybudgee]

Because Jesus hates pleasure for its own sake. However he is a HUGE fan of suffering & bloodshed. Also the Easter Bunny hates peanut butter cookies

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

I don't think it's a big deal either way whether nudity is shown or not shown. So what if someone's genitals are censored? Unless it's an attractive woman I usually don't pay much attention to that area anyway.

 

I think it's a little ridiculous female breast are censored (like on naked and afraid) since men can bare their chests all they want, but at the end of the day if it's just da melons you want to see, then just go find a playboy.

[smoke and mirrors]

I don`t have a problem with nudity but in games it comes down to censorship . The lower the ratings the more games you can sell and it`s all about selling games , although i wonder if a game with lots of nudity wouldn`t sell anyway .

[Derpy]

Because I see a bunch of it on google as it is.

[Derpy]

Nvm.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Nudity should be illegal forever 24/7.

[Derpy]

Nudity should be illegal forever 24/7.

Says the clopper.

[cindercatz]

I mostly agree with you. Shaming behaviour in general is a major social control mechanism, including sexual shaming. So nudity used in a serious context has always directly exploited and challenged that mindset. It's more powerful dramatically because that cultural taboo still exists. Corporations tend to be averse to challenging the conformists too much, which is one reason creative people have tended to be anti-corporate mindset. Even a mostly liberal minded company like BioWare/EA has a struggle picking its battles in the market.

 

Nudity in media has unfortunately been one of those areas the far right and far left sometimes meet. So I'd say any place the ideological extremes meet is probably somewhere I wouldn't want to be.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Says the clopper.

Says the person with an avatar of a naked pony.

 

Seriously when a baby is born it should be immediately thrown in jail for not wearing clothes. That's the law.

[karushna5]

Hello and thank you for coming by,

 

I would like to speak and present one matter which can be resume on the next line:

 

How can sex and nudity be a tabu and blowing up a mans head off be a "cool thing"?

 

I create this topic to discuss this matter and seek opinions rather than sending a message to game developers or on this case, BioWare. As I'm sure this matter is probably chose from EA, a business decision.

 

Going back to the matter; The human body is treated as if it was a terrible thing along with sex, where the scenes avoid the male/female parts yet we see the animation of a head turning into peaces with all detail when getting shot with a sniper.

 

I think this is clearly a social thought remain from the dark age when the church on power did pursue the classic ways and "pagan believes", however I'm yet amaze how a beautiful thing such as sex is presented in all media as a terrible tabu and killing other people is acceptable. 

 

Don't take me wrong, I'm not saying that fights are terrible thing to be presented, a mature history must be presented as it will be on life it self(what will a video-game be with out it!?). But accepting this on violence and not on nudity and sex is childish.

 

In my opinion, if this tabu will be defeated all related to it will feel natural as it should be. Any scene of nudity or sex in any video-game or other media feel extremely artificial this days.

 

What do you think about it?

First of all, for most people blowing up a mans head lies in fiction. It isnt something relateable. Also video games dont take death seriously At All, that is the point. The idea that the Catholic Church was the first ones to make Sex private, i think you are sadly mistaken. There are institutions long before that included that sex was a private thing between 2 people.

I think it originated because people dont like PDa, no matter how fine you are with the human body, seeing your best friend and his boyfriend do it wildly on the couch while you watch TV just is awkward.

Then the idea of women carry offspring, and thus have to be controlled with who they have sex with or else the idea of taking care of a child that is not your own. Since affairs are so private, and people are never open with them, sex started becoming very Taboo outside marriage. Rules on sex are not universal but they are close across cultures.

that said, also as I said, sex in the game is treated a lot more seriously than the violence. Full on sex isnt romantic most of the time. That carries with their face. The actual act is a lot more... crude and doesnt lend itself well to a story, especially one of romance. Real sex just doesnt look dramatic. This is why even R rated movies will skip the sex bits and illuminate the idea of sex rather than the bits as it is more evocative. Of course you could make it look like Porn, but that is unrealistic and childish as showing nothing.

 

Since most people do the romances for ...romance. other games that show the sex often have very little to no actual emotion involved. Its hollow. Evocative hinting was the way to go. I see it more as a creative choice. Anything else would look crass because real sex is messy and generally unattractive, while Porn sex is ridiculous and untasteful, not to mention, morally suspect. The reason they dont show it in more flingy situations, is because it doesnt harmonize well with the sex scenes with your love intrest and once again few people really want to see real sex. So idealized sex is either pornographic/unemotional/ or done as Bioware does  which is allude but not show. Of those three choices, 3 seems the best choice

[Dovahzeymahlkey]

Nudity and Violence in Media are both mature topics and thus get mature ratings. It is simply the culture that views them at the time that says one is more "ok" than the other. Mature content can vary from person to person and what they are comfortable with in a specific topic under an umbrella of mature subjects is different from the next person.

 

TL:DR get off the soapbox and deal with it.

[luna1124]

LOL.. always a good place to find amusement Because people today like to fake love and make war

[bmwcrazy]

This thread is useless without pics.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[smoke and mirrors]

LOL.. always a good place to find amusement Because people today like to fake love and make war

 

Luna i have always like to make love and fake war but i am strange like that

[RavenousBear]

Yep, I find it illogical that our society views nudity and sex worse than violence when it comes to games, movies, media, etc... In fact I have seen instances where violence is encouraged and glorified. No wonder our shitty society has so many issues.

[Orian Tabris]

It's stupid how good things like the creation of humanity (although, humans are hardly "good") are frowned upon, and people attack (i.e. sue, complain, etc.) those who show it, while bad things like the death of humanity are acceptable in fiction.

 

We see violence all the time in the news at 7:00pm, while sex usually isn't shown until after 10:00pm - 2 hours after most children are in bed, and the ones that aren't, most likely go to bed at 9:00pm, are old enough to have had sexual education. Those that usually are allowed to stay up late probably don't have parents who are too concerned about morals - or are at least laid back about it - which means they're more likely to be OK with showing the harshness of reality, or whatever.

[Sir DeLoria]

This is more of an issue in the United States, here in Europe a movie can often contain full frontal nudity and/or sex scenes and still be rated PG-13.

However we(or at least the rating agencies) are extremely squeamish when it comes to blood and gore. The polar opposite of the US in that sense.

[Orian Tabris]

This is more of an issue in the United States, here in Europe a movie can often contain full frontal nudity and/or sex scenes and still be rated PG-13.

However we(or at least the rating agencies) are extremely squeamish when it comes to blood and gore. The polar opposite of the US in that sense.

Damn! You're lucky! I live in the country of wannabe Americans: Australia.

[smoke and mirrors]

Me too but we had nudity on TV in the 70`s on Number 96 .

[metatheurgist]

Damn! You're lucky! I live in the country of wannabe Americans: Australia.

Hmm, I think I have to disagree with you. We get an almost equal serving of sex and violence in Oz. Remember Underbelly and recent crime dramas? We also have a history of fairly racy media and we've never been shy about violence. I think the violence isn't as bad as the Americans and the nudity isn't as liberal as Europe. Also have to disagree that we're wannabe Americans since our Prime Minister just reinstated Knighthoods and the monarchist movement is growing in popularity.

[Orian Tabris]

Hmm, I think I have to disagree with you. We get an almost equal serving of sex and violence in Oz. Remember Underbelly and recent crime dramas? We also have a history of fairly racy media and we've never been shy about violence. I think the violence isn't as bad as the Americans and the nudity isn't as liberal as Europe. Also have to disagree that we're wannabe Americans since our Prime Minister just reinstated Knighthoods and the monarchist movement is growing in popularity.

 

Have you not heard the pronunciation of the letter 'z', or the shortening of mathematics by many Australians? And what about the misuse of plurals (although, Americans probably misuse plurals too, even in their own version of English)? And then there's Australia's pop culture. And the weird dislike of the French (although the British don't like the French either, and we're mostly descendants of them... so maybe that's a moot point).