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[Brass_Buckles]

I liked the character Felassen in Masked Empire, and was disappointed by his apparent end.  But I wonder if he really did die, considering we know several key players in that novel will be in-game, according to one of the devs (Cameron Lee maybe?).

 

So, here's a thread for Felassen.  Discuss whatever you want to about him.

 

What we know:

 

• Felassen had violet eyes.
• He was apparently a fairly old elf and may or may not have shown his age (it wasn't really clear on that)
• He wore a hood to hide his Dalish tattoos.
• His tattoos were unusual in that they seemed to move and shift.
• He was a follower of the Dread Wolf, Fen'Harel, which is undoubtedly rather unusual for any elf.
• He told very interesting stories about Fen'Harel.
• He set out with the intent to betray Briala, but ended up betraying his unknown master.
• He seems to be familiar with the demon Imshael.
• He may not have truly been Dalish.
• He is very knowledgeable about demons, in fact seems to know Imshael personally, and does not interfere when Imshael is freed.
• He can use herbs to enter the Fade, instead of lyrium or a trance.
• He avoids sleeping because if he sleeps he will enter the Fade.
• He has considerable knowledge about Arlathan and the pre-Exalted Marches Dales.
• He prefers to make others think about the answers to their questions and situations, rather than giving answers outright.  He's a bit cryptic.
• His name in ancient elven means "slow arrow," in reference to a story about Fen'Harel.
• Felassen's name has apparently been changed at least once in the past, according to Imshael.

 

I kind of felt like there was a little more between Briala and Felassen than just teacher/student, particularly on Felassen's part.  Whether it was merely a deeper friendship, or he found her attractive (or they were mutually attracted, meaning Briala might be bisexual), I do not know and cannot guess.  The parting kiss could even have been read as a parent/child gesture (kiss to the forehead).

 

I also wonder if Felassen's master could possibly be... the Inquisitor.  It's highly unlikely; it will most likely end up being either someone we have already met, or a demon or spirit of some kind.  It could be another ancient magister along the lines of Corypheus.  And yet, imagine if he does come to the Inquisitor, who is supposed to be his master... what then?

 

I also suspect, due to matching some parts of Felassen's description, that Solas may end up being Felassen.  He lacks the vallaslin, but he does have violet eyes, and they are very tired looking eyes at that--like someone who has been sleep deprived for a long time.  Felassen was also quite good at blending in, which Solas's commoner clothing would certainly fit with.  If the vallaslin were magical rather than tattooed, it may have been possible for him to remove it.  It has also not been confirmed whether anyone from Masked Empire will be a companion.  Which means that they might not be, or Felassen might be Solas--we've seen the entire cast of companions, and no one else could be anyone we already met in Masked Empire.  If Patrick Weekes wrote Solas, then at the very least the two are likely to be connected somehow, if not the same character.

 

Given his potentially extreme age and his willingness to consort with spirits and demons, I also wondered if Felassen might have been possessed by a spirit or demon himself.  Perhaps a spirit of trickery, even--in which case he had to trick someone, but rather than Briala he chose to trick his master.

 

Again, anything anyone wants to discuss about Felassen, feel free.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

But Felassan was killed by his unknown master at the end of the novel. He can't appear in the game.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

I loved his character and was very intrigued by him. 

 

Something that struck me when finishing the novel was the story he told Briala about Fen'Harel.  Very similar to the same story that Merrill tells Hawke about the Gods being at war.  Then his demise happens.  I got the impression it was Fen'Harel who killed him.  I've also come to the conclusion that Fen'Harel is the Maker. 

 

Fen'Harel walks between the Forgotten Ones and the Creators.   The Dread Wolf aka Fen'Harel imprisons both of these gods sets.  The Forgotten Ones (Trevinter aka the Dragons in the earth and the Creators in their heavenly realm).

 

Felassan helps Briala get the keystone to unlock the eluvians and the secret phrase refers to Fen'Harel.  The Dalish now have a way to fight against humans, city elves, dwarves, and the chaotic chantry.  If anybody would be ticked about that it would seem to me to be the Maker.

 

I also got the impression he encouraged Briala to turn against Celiene. 

 

Ok, so was he one of the creators?  He also tells Briala the story of the two elven creator gods who tried to kill each other.

Modifié par ElvaliaRavenHart, 25 avril 2014 - 02:05 .

[Brass_Buckles]

But Felassan was killed by his unknown master at the end of the novel. He can't appear in the game.

 

We assumed he died.  The first thing I thought when I read the book, after seeing Solas in a screenshot, was:  OMG that's Felassen.  And then I remembered, wait, Felassen died, can't be.  And then we have learned that Solas has violet, exhausted eyes.  Could just be a coincidence, but maybe not.

 

Given some similarities to Solas, I am not sure.  Of course, it could be that Solas has the same employer, or is possessed by the same demon, or is Felassen's son.  We don't know.

 

The catch is, we assume he died, but he was struck from behind.  So I think, either he's dead, possessed, or Solas.  Or possessed and Solas.  Hard to say.

 

Regardless how you feel about the Solas-as-Felassen theory, this is a thread for discussing all things Felassen.  Even if he's dead he's a cool character who deserves to be remembered.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

We assumed he died.  The first thing I thought when I read the book, after seeing Solas in a screenshot, was:  OMG that's Felassen.  And then I remembered, wait, Felassen died, can't be.  And then we have learned that Solas has violet, exhausted eyes.  Could just be a coincidence, but maybe not.

 

Given some similarities to Solas, I am not sure.  Of course, it could be that Solas has the same employer, or is possessed by the same demon, or is Felassen's son.  We don't know.

 

The catch is, we assume he died, but he was struck from behind.  So I think, either he's dead, possessed, or Solas.  Or possessed and Solas.  Hard to say.

 

Regardless how you feel about the Solas-as-Felassen theory, this is a thread for discussing all things Felassen.  Even if he's dead he's a cool character who deserves to be remembered.

 

But, it's explicitly spelled out in the text: "He never heard the blow that killed him."

[Brass_Buckles]

It's explicitly spelled out in the text: "He never heard the blow that killed him."

 

And it's also explicitly stated that Wynne and Leliana both came back from the dead due to Fade spirits.  Please go elsewhere if you want an argument.  That is not what this thread is for.  As I said, it's for discussing Felassen, whether or not he shows up in the game.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

I have to agree with Jedi here.  The text does say that.  He also took great care in being careful to not dream and enter the fade.  He knew it was going to happen...his death.

[Brass_Buckles]

I have to agree with Jedi here.  The text does say that.  He also took great care in being careful to not dream and enter the fade.  He knew it was going to happen...his death.

 

I come up with lots of wild theories.  I honestly did not remember the word death actually being used, but, if he's dead he's dead.  I strongly suspect, though, that there will be some connection between Felassen and Solas.  Even if they are not the same person, they share tired, violet eyes... which could be a genetic trait, i.e. they could be brothers, father/son, etc.  Or possessed by the same spirit/demon.  Or Felassen's master possessed his corpse, becoming Solas.  Anything could be true.

 

Regardless, live or dead, it'd be hard to argue that Felassen was not an interesting character.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

Agreed, I was sad that he was killed.  But, if he is a creator god, then perhaps he had a way to preserve his life like Flemeth. 

 

Maybe Solas is related to him somehow through the Dalish Clans. 

 

Being honest I never considered the possibility of the possession thing.

[Gannayev of Dreams]

Felassan was an interesting character.  But it's easy to make a character interesting when they are shown to have advanced powers and or/knowledge but also do not have any personal information revealed about them, or if they do, it is most likely a lie.

 

He seems like a long drawn out plot device to introduce us to whatever force was his "master" rather than a meaningful character in his own right, though.  Maybe it has a connection to Solas, maybe not, but I think THEY are the ones we'll be dealing with in DA:I.

[sandalisthemaker]

He was killed while in the Fade, though.

 

Wouldn't that just make him tranquil like Feynriel?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Man was directly responsible for releasing a Forbidden One. I sure wouldn't want him in the Inquisitor. Our goal is to keep the demons out, not let them in.

[Brass_Buckles]

Felassan was an interesting character.  But it's easy to make a character interesting when they are shown to have advanced powers and or/knowledge but also do not have any personal information revealed about them, or if they do, it is most likely a lie.

 

He seems like a long drawn out plot device to introduce us to whatever force was his "master" rather than a meaningful character in his own right, though.  Maybe it has a connection to Solas, maybe not, but I think THEY are the ones we'll be dealing with in DA:I.

 

I'd say his master could be Anders, except, well, I'd guess most people killed Anders.  But you can't kill a spirit, so Justice/Vengeance could be responsible...

 

I don't think he was really a plot contrivance.  He did have some depth of character.  He actually threatened Briala, whom he clearly cared about, for asking him whether or not he were truly Dalish.  I suspect the answer to that question was, "No."  And with his Fen'Harel worship, no one should have been surprised that his intent the whole time was to trick Briala... even if he ultimately changed his mind.

 

He was fairly powerful, but I don't think he was more so than the player character mage has been in previous Dragon Age games.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

@ Sandal 2.0

 

Perhaps.  I just find it strange that he told Briala that story of one creator god trying to kill the other.  The one almost killed gets away and to me it was like the end of the story he told Briala.  Wow, I hope that made sense. 

 

@ Hinata

 

I found it interesting that the Forgotten One could look like a human man/mage.   

[leaguer of one]

So does anyone else feel  Felassen  reminds them of 9 and/or 10 Doctor of Dr. WHO?

 

Every Time he talked I picture him being voiced by David Tennant.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I wasn't looking for a fight. I just felt talking about the likelihood of him appearing in the game was on topic.

 

Anyway, he was certainly an interesting one, but I really found him to be a very sinister figure. I did not trust him. That he's seemingly on friendly terms with a being like Imshael speaks poorly of him, but the fact that he allowed Michel to unwittingly release him to wipe out the Virnhen kind of makes him pretty much straight up evil. The book pretty heavily implied he was working for Fen'Harel, but whoever his master was, they were probably the big bad behind the crisis DAI because he knew the Veil Tears were coming.

 

And although he seemed genuinely to care for Briala and the fate of the elven people, the fact that he encouraged her to free her people by propagating chaos made him a problematic influence in my book. I feel like if I'd been in her place, I might have taken away something different away from all his lessons about Fen'Harel.

[Brass_Buckles]

I wasn't looking for a fight. I just felt talking about the likelihood of him appearing in the game was on topic.

 

Anyway, he was certainly an interesting one, but I really found him to be a very sinister figure. I did not trust him. That he's seemingly on friendly terms with a being like Imshael speaks poorly of him, but the fact that he allowed Michel to unwittingly release him to wipe out the Virnhen kind of makes him pretty much straight up evil. The book pretty heavily implied he was working for Fen'Harel, but whoever his master was, they were probably the big bad behind the crisis DAI because he knew the Veil Tears were coming.

 

And although he seemed genuinely to care for Briala and the fate of the elven people, the fact that he encouraged her to free her people by propagating chaos made him a problematic influence in my book. I feel like if I'd been in her place, I might have taken away something different away from all his lessons about Fen'Harel.

 

I would have been suspicious of anyone who favored Fen'Harel openly, too.  And yet, honestly, the plan she came up with due to his stories, is actually a remarkably good plan for the elves.  It doesn't seem like Thedas is much like the real world, where peaceful protests can sometimes win the day.  Yes, it is a horrible thing that she plans to steal from supply lines etc. and stage attacks... but given the state of the elves, can you blame her?

 

It's also a reasonable question to ask why Felassen would have favored opening tears up in the Veil?  He must have had a reason that he would help do this.  Maybe something to do with what I've heard about the comics, there being a "time before the Veil," when the Fade and reality were one and the same.  Sort of like Synthesis, only in Thedas it happened in reverse.

[leaguer of one]

I would have been suspicious of anyone who favored Fen'Harel openly, too.  And yet, honestly, the plan she came up with due to his stories, is actually a remarkably good plan for the elves.  It doesn't seem like Thedas is much like the real world, where peaceful protests can sometimes win the day.  Yes, it is a horrible thing that she plans to steal from supply lines etc. and stage attacks... but given the state of the elves, can you blame her?

 

It's also a reasonable question to ask why Felassen would have favored opening tears up in the Veil?  He must have had a reason that he would help do this.  Maybe something to do with what I've heard about the comics, there being a "time before the Veil," when the Fade and reality were one and the same.  Sort of like Synthesis, only in Thedas it happened in reverse.

I don't blame he. If you got to face strong enemies you fight smart with cunning if you can't win a straight fight.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

So does anyone else feel  Felassen  reminds them of 9 and/or 10 Doctor of Dr. WHO?

 

Every Time he talked I picture him being voiced by David Tennant.

 

There were points in the book where I felt like the author imagined him as if he was played by Robert Downey Jr. His line "I was offended. Were you offended?" to Briala near the beginning of the book felt like it could have been right out of Iron Man or something.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

I don't recall him agreeing to open up the fade.  He was trying to help Briala get the keystone and the phrase, to help her unlock the eluvians.  The eluvians are a means of travel by the elves of old from Arlathan.  I don't think Briala realizes that when she does open them that they will be used to allow a massive breach in the veil.

 

So the question needs to be asked does someone kill Briala in the game and takes control of the eluvians to tear the fade or could Briala have become possessed?

Modifié par ElvaliaRavenHart, 25 avril 2014 - 02:57 .

[AresKeith]

But Felassan was killed by his unknown master at the end of the novel. He can't appear in the game.

 

He could in the Fade for some unknown reason

[AresKeith]

I also suspect, due to matching some parts of Felassen's description, that Solas may end up being Felassen.  He lacks the vallaslin, but he does have violet eyes, and they are very tired looking eyes at that--like someone who has been sleep deprived for a long time.  Felassen was also quite good at blending in, which Solas's commoner clothing would certainly fit with.  If the vallaslin were magical rather than tattooed, it may have been possible for him to remove it.  It has also not been confirmed whether anyone from Masked Empire will be a companion.  Which means that they might not be, or Felassen might be Solas--we've seen the entire cast of companions, and no one else could be anyone we already met in Masked Empire.  If Patrick Weekes wrote Solas, then at the very least the two are likely to be connected somehow, if not the same character.

 

For this part, I do feel that Solas might be somewhat similar to Felassen

[Brass_Buckles]

For this part, I do feel that Solas might be somewhat similar to Felassen

 

If he is, then he'll probably be possessed by a spirit or demon.  That's the downside, if Solas = Felassen.  Because it might very well mean he's actually a nasty, horrible person who will betray us.  Then again, Felassen was a nasty, horrible person who would probably have betrayed us...

[MrMrPendragon]

2 things I am 95% sure about

1. Felassan is not a creator or any kind of god. That would confirm the Dalish religion, which is never,eeeeeeever, going to happen.

2. Felassan, his mission, and his master have nothing to do with the Dread Wolf. For more or less the same reason as number 1.

It's pretty interesting how he knows so much about the Fade and demons. Like he takes regular trips there, or maybe even lives there and conspires with his master.

[Chari]

He reminds me of Xellos O_O
And yeah, I suspect Solas can be him, if somehow he survived