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[AresKeith]

I remember hearing a theory that both Felassen and maybe Solas might be ancient elves

[Heimdall]

*Opens mouth to tell you all about how Felassen is probably either an ancient elf dreamer (As the antagonist of Inquisition/his master is going to turn out to be) or the Formless One, who instead of dying drifted through the Fade confused until the veil tear, where he assumed the identity of a dying mortal without realizing it, stumbling out of the Fade as the future Inquisitor*

*Realizes how tired he is and goes to bed instead*

[Divine Justinia V]

I remember hearing a theory that both Felassen and maybe Solas might be ancient elves

 

I would love if Solas knew Felassan.

[Leo]

I liked Felassan, but I wonder why he let the Virhen clan die and if he is actually Dalish with a clan of his own.

 

I think his master might be a Somniari, explaining why Felassan likely died in the Fade...I wonder if his master is a Tevinter Magister.

 

Like a few others here, when I thought of Felassan, I imagined he would look similar to Solas.

[Dermain]

I liked Felassan, but I wonder why he let the Virhen clan die and if he is actually Dalish with a clan of his own.

 

I think his master might be a Somniari, explaining why Felassan likely died in the Fade...I wonder if his master is a Tevinter Magister.

 

Like a few others here, when I thought of Felassan, I imagined he would look similar to Solas.

 

I wouldn't say he was serving the "Big Bad" but it's likely he was working with Flemeth/Morrigan/Someone equivalent to them in power. 

 

I do find it interesting that he was a "Dalish", who likelywould have been a Keeper given his age, that did not seem to actually have a clan. It's also interesting that Imshael (who I originally read as Ishmael) continually called him "Slow Arrow" instead of Felassan (unless that was the translation of his name). It is also slightly troubling that he knows Imshael,  but that could be explained by his old clan also summoning the demon.

 

On a side note, Merril now seems LESS crazy for what she was doing in DA2....

[Augustei]

In DA2 if we killed the Somniari Feynriel in the fade he simply became Tranquil.. Felassen was killed in the fade so doesn't that mean he should just be tranquil and not dead?...Plus in Asunder a cure for tranquility was found.
Heres to hoping this isn't the last we've heard from Felassen =D

[Cobra's_back]

2 things I am 95% sure about

1. Felassan is not a creator or any kind of god. That would confirm the Dalish religion, which is never,eeeeeeever, going to happen.

2. Felassan, his mission, and his master have nothing to do with the Dread Wolf. For more or less the same reason as number 1.

It's pretty interesting how he knows so much about the Fade and demons. Like he takes regular trips there, or maybe even lives there and conspires with his master.

 

I agree. I thought he may actually be from the Tevinter Imperium. A power Dreamer Magisters maybe his boss and his boss wanted the password. Felassan was sent to get it because he had a Dalish background and could blend in easily. His master may have wanted it to get easy access to all the potential slave for one. Their economy would collapse without the slaves.

[Cobra's_back]

In DA2 if we killed the Somniari Feynriel in the fade he simply became Tranquil.. Felassen was killed in the fade so doesn't that mean he should just be tranquil and not dead?...Plus in Asunder a cure for tranquility was found.
Heres to hoping this isn't the last we've heard from Felassen =D

 

If true then we find out who his boss was.

[Cobra's_back]

I liked Felassan, but I wonder why he let the Virhen clan die and if he is actually Dalish with a clan of his own.

 

I think his master might be a Somniari, explaining why Felassan likely died in the Fade...I wonder if his master is a Tevinter Magister.

 

Like a few others here, when I thought of Felassan, I imagined he would look similar to Solas.

 

I agree. It would explain why he needed Felassan to get the password. The elves trust their own kind.

[Codyak1984]

 

"You know, I suspest you'll hate this, but she reminds me of-"

 

"-you?"

 

A young elven girl, competent and powerful, but unsure of herself nonetheless, and obsessed with saving her people.  And with an interest in claiming the eluvians.

 

I think Merrill's gone full-on dark side in the intervening years, or been possessed at the least, and she's the one that killed Felassan.

 

It's definitely someone we know, because that quote is just heavy with import and teasery.  Either an old companion gone bad, or a big bad we've already encountered.  No way it's some random magister or darkspawn.

Modifié par Codyak1984, 26 avril 2014 - 02:34 .

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Whoever he worked for is almost certainly behind the Veil Tears. Imshael spoke as if he'd be responsible for what was coming.

[RoraM]

My own conclusions seem somewhat different from what I've seen on this thread.  

 

When Briala remarks she is not a god, "the elf who had called himself Felassan" (p.379)  states, "That is for the stories to decide." (p. 320)  This leads me to suspect that Fen'Harel could merely be another elf, albeit, an ancient one trapped in the Fade, one with whom "Felassan" is well-acquainted.

 

"I think Fen'Harel would have approved," Briala said, and saw Felassan give a startled laugh.

"He might have," her teacher said, "though I very much doubt it." (p. 371)

 

I also suspect that it was Fen'Harel who had tasked him with securing the eluvians to bring those who had gone into uthenara back from the Fade.   When "Felassan" says, "You know, I suspect you'll hate this, but she reminds me of--" (p.380), I believe he was about to say "you."

 

You know, I wouldn't put it past those ancient elves, disgusted with what they saw happening from the Fade, to try and make their big comeback to show the Dalish and the city elves how a proud, powerful race conducts itself-- even if they have to fill the world with demons to do it.

[Augustei]

You know, I wouldn't put it past those ancient elves, disgusted with what they saw happening from the Fade, to try and make their big comeback to show the Dalish and the city elves how a proud, powerful race conducts itself-- even if they have to fill the world with demons to do it.

Not well evidently, otherwise they wouldn't have fled to the fade to escape the Imperiums wrath in the first place =P

[Gervaise]

I would just point out to ERavenHeart that the Dalish will not have the use of the Elluvians because Briala claimed them on behalf of "the elves of Orlais", that is all elves.  In fact if anything she favours city elves but did promise Mahris that she would give aid to the Dalish if they asked for it, just as apparently she had been doing in the past.  

 

Whilst I don't necessarily agree with his actions, Felassen may have allowed the clan to be destroyed because of their attitude when he and Briala went to them for help.  It would seem they didn't care a stuff for anyone but themselves and clearly had they obtained control of the Elluvians would not have used them to help any elves outside the Dalish and possibly outside their own clan.  

 

I am a bit puzzled why people would think the Elluvians are connected with the tear in the veil unless Briala has been killed and someone else took them over.   The Elluvian that we found in Ferelden and Merrill took to Kirkwall had been corrupted.   Merrill claimed to have cleansed it but who knows?  Of course  it is possible that Elluvian could have been responsible for weakening the veil once it had been activated by Briala at the central hub.  

 

The only thing that is odd is that Duncan maintained that the mirror was a relic of old Tevinter.   He also smashed it to prevent anyone else using it, because of the fact it had been tainted, which is why it seemed odd that Merrill thought it could be repaired.    I haven't done Witch Hunt, so I don't know what Morrigan discovered, but I do know that she left via the mirror at the end, with the Warden if he chose to go with her, so how did she manage that?   Did he have an activation gem or are there two different sets of Elluvian, the old Arlathan ones that are in control of Briala, and a second Tevinter set, that they either took or copied from the elves?

[LobselVith8]

I would just point out to ERavenHeart that the Dalish will not have the use of the Elluvians because Briala claimed them on behalf of "the elves of Orlais", that is all elves.  In fact if anything she favours city elves but did promise Mahris that she would give aid to the Dalish if they asked for it, just as apparently she had been doing in the past.  

 

Whilst I don't necessarily agree with his actions, Felassen may have allowed the clan to be destroyed because of their attitude when he and Briala went to them for help.  It would seem they didn't care a stuff for anyone but themselves and clearly had they obtained control of the Elluvians would not have used them to help any elves outside the Dalish and possibly outside their own clan.

 

Briala said she would accept Dalish assistance to help all the elves, and hopefully, we encounter Dalish who are more three-dimensional than the ones in TME.

 

I am a bit puzzled why people would think the Elluvians are connected with the tear in the veil unless Briala has been killed and someone else took them over.   The Elluvian that we found in Ferelden and Merrill took to Kirkwall had been corrupted.   Merrill claimed to have cleansed it but who knows?  Of course  it is possible that Elluvian could have been responsible for weakening the veil once it had been activated by Briala at the central hub.

 

Merrill took a shard from the shattered Eluvian, and built her own Eluvian, incorporating the shard into it's construction and designing it based on her own research. It was cleansed of the taint, as Merrill wasn't a ghoul after handling it for several years, unlike the corrupted elves in the Elven Ruins the Warden-Commander encounters (in Witch Hunt).

 

The only thing that is odd is that Duncan maintained that the mirror was a relic of old Tevinter.   He also smashed it to prevent anyone else using it, because of the fact it had been tainted, which is why it seemed odd that Merrill thought it could be repaired.    I haven't done Witch Hunt, so I don't know what Morrigan discovered, but I do know that she left via the mirror at the end, with the Warden if he chose to go with her, so how did she manage that?   Did he have an activation gem or are there two different sets of Elluvian, the old Arlathan ones that are in control of Briala, and a second Tevinter set, that they either took or copied from the elves?

 

Tevinter took the Eluvians after the enslavement of Arlathan, but they could only use them to communicate, and weren't able to unlock their full potential. Morrigan was able to leave with the help of an elven tome she took from Ariane's clan, going to a place "beyond this world, and beyond the Fade". There didn't seem to be a gem that the player saw, and Morrigan did claim there was only enough power left to activate it one last time.

[dragondreamer]

My own conclusions seem somewhat different from what I've seen on this thread.  

 

When Briala remarks she is not a god, "the elf who had called himself Felassan" (p.379)  states, "That is for the stories to decide." (p. 320)  This leads me to suspect that Fen'Harel could merely be another elf, albeit, an ancient one trapped in the Fade, one with whom "Felassan" is well-acquainted.

 

"I think Fen'Harel would have approved," Briala said, and saw Felassan give a startled laugh.

"He might have," her teacher said, "though I very much doubt it." (p. 371)

 

I also suspect that it was Fen'Harel who had tasked him with securing the eluvians to bring those who had gone into uthenara back from the Fade.   When "Felassan" says, "You know, I suspect you'll hate this, but she reminds me of--" (p.380), I believe he was about to say "you."

 

You know, I wouldn't put it past those ancient elves, disgusted with what they saw happening from the Fade, to try and make their big comeback to show the Dalish and the city elves how a proud, powerful race conducts itself-- even if they have to fill the world with demons to do it.

 

You're very close to a theory I've been sitting on, pondering for a while now.  So I think I'll go ahead and talk about it... 

 

(And how did I miss this thread...)  I'm really not sure about Felassan being Solas, but I've been thinking about that a lot too.  Especially because they both have violet eyes and because Felassan's personality was sweet but there seemed to be a lot of anger and frustration beneath the surface.  Scotch bonnet candy?  Or it could simply be that Solas and Felassan come from the same "clan"...  but I don't think either of them are Dalish, or ever were.

 

I once had an old theory that the main antagonists in DA:I were going to be ancient elves trying to wipe out humanity with chaos and the demon invasion to clear the way for their return.  Like what that Dalish clan in TME describe their preference for returning to the Dales to be, except the ancient elves would actually try to do it.  Basically a bunch of genocidal ancient elves with dreamer powers to influence the world from the Fade raising havok. They want their empire back, they want revenge, and they want the land cleared.  It's taken a long time, but apparently the ancient elves took a looooonnng time to do anything.  We might be seeing the final stages of a very long game.  

 

I've also wondered if the first attempt was the Blight itself, and the voices telling the Tevinter magisters to enter the Golden City were dreamer elves and not Old Gods.  There's a codex connected to Soldier's Peak that's always interested me about how Warden Commander Asturian became obsessed with a legendary elven princess as his corruption became advanced.  He started locking himself away and supposedly had conversations with himself and tried to ressurrect the princess using blood magic and raspberry jam.  The Wardens claimed it was just vicious rumors, but you can actually find the raspberry jam shrine in the game.    It might just be a bit of dark humor, but I've always wondered if there was something more going on there.  There's also the fact that something strange is going on with the Wardens in DA:I...

 

At the end TME, Felassan tells his boss that he wants to let Briala try...  It suggested to me that whatever Felassan and his boss are trying to do is supposedly for the benefit of the elves, but their plans are very different.  Briala would have an elven country that co-existed with humanity, but the hypothetical ancient elves would not like this idea.  Felassan clearly knows he'll be killed for even suggesting this, but he seems to have fatherly feelings for her.

 

One of the things I found interesting about TME was the revelation that there were elves in uthenera within the eluvian system and the suggestion that the servant elves had killed them.  It suggests some serious class issues in old Arlathan, which may have played a role in what happened to it.  Combined with some of Felassan's views (as mentioned in the quote above) and the fact that I can't see any actual real "gods" appearing in the series...  I wonder if the ancient elves had a society that viewed their nobility as divine.  Meaning all the Dalish gods were simply old elven royalty or nobility, and so was Fen'Harel...  and maybe Fen'Harel's betrayal was what led to the downfall of Arlathan.  I always thought it was interesting that the Dalish connect the myth of Fen'Harel locking away the other elven gods to a historical event like that.  The codex suggests even the Dalish find it a fuzzy and strange connection.  What if Fen'Harel locked away the original elven nobility by shutting down the eluvian system and trapping them in parts unknown or in a hidden part of the eluvian system?  Like in the story, they may have even gone willingly to distance themselves from the fighting in Arlathan.  

 

It becomes a point that for all he plays the part of Dalish, Felassan doesn't venerate the Dalish gods and seemed to discourage Briala's interest in them.  Does he know something we don't or is he just an atheist?  He doesn't seem to care for Andrastianism either.  And if that's really Fen'Harel he's talking to at the end, why would someone who personally knows a Dalish deity be an atheist?  It's a very different picture if he's a dreamer meeting another dreamer who simply happens to be someone considered a god by current generations with no context.

 

Felassan tells a story about Fen'Harel where a village asks Fen'Harel to kill a beast coming to attack them.  But it's too strong for Fen'Harel to face directly so he uses a "slow arrow".  All the adults in the village are killed by the beast and only the children are saved when the arrow finally strikes it.   I think this is the general idea for both the ancient elves (and perhaps specifically Fen'Harel) and Briala.  Briala wants to create chaos in the Orlesian civil war to give her elves time to gain strength and so Orlais will be too weak to stop them.  Likewise, perhaps Fen'Harel has been plotting by causing chaos among humanity via dreamers until they felt the time was right.  Maybe Fen'Harel once saw a situation where Arlathan had no chance to win against Tevinter because of failings of the old elven society and its leaders and decided to let it fall rather than let elves be completely wiped out in an unending war.  He let the "adults" die to save the "children" down the line.

 

Maybe Fen'Harel and the ancient elves wanted the eluvians for their own use (and to allow themselves a way out), and with Felassan's help they were using the Dalish to reactivate them.  Maybe the ancient elves are Felassan's "clan", but I'm not sure if he would've been an ancient elf himself who had been one of their agents in the world, of if he's simply someone they recruited because he was a dreamer.  And now I wonder if Solas will end up being someone like Felassan working for ancient elves, if he isn't Felassan himself.  The "Judas" theory about Solas would align here...  

 

Lastly, the Notes of Arl Foreshadow codex has interested me for a long time...

 

Books to pursue for future endeavors.

 

Lost countenance: Ferelden to Orlesian Phrase Book 

 

-Must not offend the potential landlords

 

 

(That part is pretty obvious...)

Raising Spirits: Offsprings and the Fade

 

-Terrible two's indeed!

 

 

(I used to think this might be referring to the OGB, but now I wonder if it's Cole.)

 

Forest Fall: Truth and Legend in the Search for Arlathan

 

-Survivors? Poppycock!

 

 

 

(And here's the bit relevant to the ancient elf theory...   )

 

And that's most of it I think...  Although another little thing I used to wonder about is if the ancient elves were originally from another dimension to begin with, and that's where they fled to (perhaps with the eluvians).  And because of that, they were very alien to begin with and only became more human looking due to some adaptability that changed them to be more human the longer they were exposed to them.  (And the adaptability is also why interbreeding never results in an elf.)  I thought the Qunari might have actually been ancient elves who had long exposure to dragons in the very distant past.  And the old relationship between dragons and elves is part of why Flemeth has a relationship with the Dalish, and is possibly working with the ancient elves.  So I found the part in TME where it's implied that the ancient elves were *much* taller than modern elves (or humans for that matter) to be intriguing.  (But I couldn't get the image of slenderman elves out of my mind...   )

[Rel Fexive]

I think it is far more likely that Felassen and Solas are both agents of the same mystery entity and/or have similar Dreamer powers than they are one and the same, if only because them being the same person requires too much knowledge of details from an outside source (i.e. the book) for it to be sufficiently relevant in-game.

 

Then again, we'll apparently be seeing other TME characters and one or more Asunder characters in Inquisition, and Kaylee Sanders appeared in ME3, so maybe not...

[kukumburr]

One of the things I found interesting about TME was the revelation that there were elves in uthenera within the eluvian system and the suggestion that the servant elves had killed them.  It suggests some serious class issues in old Arlathan, which may have played a role in what happened to it.  Combined with some of Felassan's views (as mentioned in the quote above) and the fact that I can't see any actual real "gods" appearing in the series...  I wonder if the ancient elves had a society that viewed their nobility as divine.  Meaning all the Dalish gods were simply old elven royalty or nobility, and so was Fen'Harel...  and maybe Fen'Harel's betrayal was what led to the downfall of Arlathan.  I always thought it was interesting that the Dalish connect the myth of Fen'Harel locking away the other elven gods to a historical event like that.  The codex suggests even the Dalish find it a fuzzy and strange connection.  What if Fen'Harel locked away the original elven nobility by shutting down the eluvian system and trapping them in parts unknown or in a hidden part of the eluvian system?  Like in the story, they may have even gone willingly to distance themselves from the fighting in Arlathan.  

 

This is what I've been thinking lately too. I've been wondering if the Creators were just really old, powerful dreamers who were basically the royalty of Arlathan. Maybe they were the creators of the eluvian realm? And perhaps the Forgotten Ones were an opposing faction, who possibly interacted more with demons (just based on their association with fear, spite, etc.) I mean why did Imshael have the keystone anyways?

 

It would be interesting if Solas turned out to be Felassan. Felassan is sort of like Cole to me in that he's an interesting character that never quite gets explained properly, so I hope we at least end up learning more about him.

[ilikesocks]

I don't know about the whole posession thing, but, I really enjoyed Felassan's character. I was all, "Awww, noooo!" when I read that.

[AltanIV]

I don't really know much about Solas, and not that much about Felassan (Haven't finished TME) but I've taken quite an interest in this strange Elf, so I thought I'd take a look around here.
I must say your theory about the Creators actually being extremely ancient elves seems interesting to me. And possible.

Still I wonder one thing, there's one tiny piece that's missing in all that. Where do the dwarves stand in your theory ? I don't think they would have a common ancestry with elves (and not with humans for that matter). But they seem to have forgotten some part of their history as the discovery of the Old Thaig seems to suggest. Dunno it just felt like there's a piece that doesn't completely fit in your theory. Also I seem to remember reading that at one time Thedas and the Fade used to be one and the same, dunno if whatever is beyond the Fade was created before or after the creation of the Fade though. And Arlathan for that matter. If they come from a different world I would first wonder why they left it in the first place. And if they left it, why would they go back ? I mean I understand the part where they are imprisoned in Arlathan (or whatever is beyond the Veil or wherever the eluvians lead to) but it feels more, to me, like Arlathan was taken out of Thedas somehow.
But well as much as you, I'm only hypothesizing.

[dragondreamer]

This is what I've been thinking lately too. I've been wondering if the Creators were just really old, powerful dreamers who were basically the royalty of Arlathan. Maybe they were the creators of the eluvian realm? And perhaps the Forgotten Ones were an opposing faction, who possibly interacted more with demons (just based on their association with fear, spite, etc.) I mean why did Imshael have the keystone anyways?

 
I'm not sure about the Forgotten Ones.  Maybe they were another ancient elven faction, or maybe they actually were the Old Gods.  Imshael just seemed to be a means to create the keystone, it seems likely that there was some spirit/demon involvement in old elven magic.
 

I don't know about the whole posession thing, but, I really enjoyed Felassan's character. I was all, "Awww, noooo!" when I read that.

 
Same. 
 

I don't really know much about Solas, and not that much about Felassan (Haven't finished TME) but I've taken quite an interest in this strange Elf, so I thought I'd take a look around here.
I must say your theory about the Creators actually being extremely ancient elves seems interesting to me. And possible.

Still I wonder one thing, there's one tiny piece that's missing in all that. Where do the dwarves stand in your theory ? I don't think they would have a common ancestry with elves (and not with humans for that matter). But they seem to have forgotten some part of their history as the discovery of the Old Thaig seems to suggest. Dunno it just felt like there's a piece that doesn't completely fit in your theory. Also I seem to remember reading that at one time Thedas and the Fade used to be one and the same, dunno if whatever is beyond the Fade was created before or after the creation of the Fade though. And Arlathan for that matter. If they come from a different world I would first wonder why they left it in the first place. And if they left it, why would they go back ? I mean I understand the part where they are imprisoned in Arlathan (or whatever is beyond the Veil or wherever the eluvians lead to) but it feels more, to me, like Arlathan was taken out of Thedas somehow.
But well as much as you, I'm only hypothesizing.

 
Dwarves don't really stand in my theory because it's about the elves, not the dwarves.   I'm guessing this is about the little thing about the Qunari, but I don't think all the races came from the elves.  There seemed to be very little contact between the elves and dwarves in ancient times because the dwarves were underground and they're almost as xenophobic as the elves.  Surface contact wasn't as necessary for the dwarves until the Blight wiped out their empire underground.  The Dalish origin had a little thing you could find in the Brecilian ruins, a statue that marked the place where the elves and the dwarves first made contact and established a trading post (that Brecilian site seemed to be quite the cosmopolitan place in ancient times).  But I don't recall if that's the very first time they made contact or if it's just where they made contact in that location.  We know that with the exception of the Cad'halash (Cadash) thaig, the dwarves put their support behind Tevinter rather than the elves, so they probably weren't very close.
 
The dwarves may not be completely disconnected from any elven shenanigans, but so far a lot of the mysteries of dwarven history have even less clues.  What I see as two of the big dwarven mysteries (imo) the business with the primeval thaig/red lyrium and whatever the Stone might be are hopefully going to be something explored in DA:I since we're in Orlais and red lyrium is very much a thing now.  

 
I don't know if I think the elves really come from another dimension/world, it's just an idea.  In TME, the world inside the eluvians was essentially an alien environment that was very pleasant for elves and very harsh for humans.  Something closer to home?   (I think it's a coincidence, but funny that the big veil rip is apparently called The Breach, and that was also the name of the big portal in Pacific Rim the aliens were coming through.  ) 
 
And who knows what's in the ruins of Arlathan, but I think it's still physically in the world.  Tamlen mentions seeing an underground city through the eluvian, and I think that was Arlathan, which was supposedly sunk into the earth by the Tevinter magisters.  But given what happens in the Dalish origin, Arlathan would apparently have a big Blight problem...hmm.
 
As for the world before the veil, that goes into reeeallly ancient mythical stuff that's up there with trying to figure out what the Golden/Black City is.  I pretty much end up shuffling this subject to the side with each theory because it just results in my mind going into a BSoD.  

[RoraM]

Not well evidently, otherwise they wouldn't have fled to the fade to escape the Imperiums wrath in the first place =P

 

All part of the plan, my friend, all part of the plan.  Felassan chose his name carefully.

 

"My name, among  our people means 'slow arrow.'  It comes from a story in which the god Fen'Harel was asked by a village to kill a great beast.  He came to the beast at dawn, and saw its strength, and knew it would slay him if he fought it. So instead, he shot an arrow up into the sky." (p.74)

 

As dragondreamer has also pointed out in a very thoughtful post, the ancient elves could well have been playing the long game. Given their preternatural lifespans, they might not have seen it so much as "fleeing to the Fade" as "regrouping". 

 

By the way, did anyone else laugh out loud at the line, "Please, call me Imshael"?  Oh, that Mr. Weekes.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

@ RadioStar, and Ghostuber101

 

How do you get the Dalish religion doesn't exist?  There are various codex entries that you pick up in all the games, and DLC that gives information on their Gods.  If you talk to Merrill (DA2 Act 2 or 3) she tells you a story of how the gods are at war with each other.  The story that Felasslan tells Briala is really about the Dread Wolf aka Fen'Harel, his name can also mean slow arrow.  The elves are the ones who used to rule all of Thedas centuries ago before the Qunari and Humans came to Thedas.   

 

Trevinter and Orlais both conquered them (elves) because they wouldn't acknowledge/worship/Andraste as the prophet of the Maker.  They wouldn't because they had their own true religion and gods.  Just like the Dwarves worship their ancestors.

 

The eluvians are used to create the veil tears that we have to close up.  So either Briala caused the tears in the veil or someone else killed her to take control of them after the end of the TME. 

 

@ LobselVith8

 

Yes, I'm aware of this.  I've read all of the books.

 

 

Felessan could be a dalish dreamer.  I found it interesting he wouldn't introduce anyone to his clan. 

[Dermain]

 
I'm not sure about the Forgotten Ones.  Maybe they were another ancient elven faction, or maybe they actually were the Old Gods.  Imshael just seemed to be a means to create the keystone, it seems likely that there was some spirit/demon involvement in old elven magic.

 

The thing that caught my attention is that Fellasan tells Briala "Tevinter copied the ancient elves by rote..." or something similar. If this is the case then the ancient elves likely were practitioners of blood magic and likely kept slaves since Tevinter completely copied elven society .

 

While it is possible that the elves used to live forever the only evidence we have of extending life is  through the use of blood magic. In Origins, Zathrian's clan believes he has "rediscovered" the way of the ancient elves which he probably did. When Tevinter decided to wipe the ancient elves out they likely destroyed any evidence of the elves using blood magic, and they also would have changed how they came to the discovery of blood magic.

 

As for the slaves, Fellasen makes numerous comments to Briala that there were always elven servants. Elven society likely was not all flowers, sunshine, and frolicking in fields, but like many things with the ancient elves there is little to no evidence of it. What we do know is that there were elven servants, but we don't know how they were treated. If Tevinter did exactly copy elven society that could be evidence enough that the ancient elves did keep slaves, but we still do not know how they treated these slaves. Since Fellasan makes numerous comments about "disloyal" servants killing their masters while they were in uthenera it can be reasoned that these "servants" were treated poorly. 

 

And that's all I have on the subject when I'm extremely tired.

[Chari]

Solas aka Fellasen. A servant of Fen'Harel, the Dread wolf
Xellos. A servant of Zellas Metallium, the Great wolf
Dang, it may be just me, but that sounds way too similar