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[AresKeith]

I don't know about Solas being Felassen, but I do think he's similar to him

[Jedi Master of Orion]

The thing that caught my attention is that Fellasan tells Briala "Tevinter copied the ancient elves by rote..." or something similar. If this is the case then the ancient elves likely were practitioners of blood magic and likely kept slaves since Tevinter completely copied elven society .

 

While it is possible that the elves used to live forever the only evidence we have of extending life is  through the use of blood magic. In Origins, Zathrian's clan believes he has "rediscovered" the way of the ancient elves which he probably did. When Tevinter decided to wipe the ancient elves out they likely destroyed any evidence of the elves using blood magic, and they also would have changed how they came to the discovery of blood magic.

 

As for the slaves, Fellasen makes numerous comments to Briala that there were always elven servants. Elven society likely was not all flowers, sunshine, and frolicking in fields, but like many things with the ancient elves there is little to no evidence of it. What we do know is that there were elven servants, but we don't know how they were treated. If Tevinter did exactly copy elven society that could be evidence enough that the ancient elves did keep slaves, but we still do not know how they treated these slaves. Since Fellasan makes numerous comments about "disloyal" servants killing their masters while they were in uthenera it can be reasoned that these "servants" were treated poorly. 

 

And that's all I have on the subject when I'm extremely tired.

 

I'm pretty sure Felessan was referring specifically to Tevinter copying the elven magic runes, rather than the society as a whole.

[Augustei]

People want / theorize that Dragon Age Inquisition to be about ancient elves invading thedas from the fade..... So let me get this straight, people want/expect Dragon Age Inquisition to be The Witcher 3?

[Brass_Buckles]

People want / theorize that Dragon Age Inquisition to be about ancient elves invading thedas from the fade..... So let me get this straight, people want/expect Dragon Age Inquisition to be The Witcher 3?

 

Considering I haven't played Witcher 2 or 3, and only barely played the first Witcher, um... no?

 

Two things can have a similar plot without being the same thing.  And there was, back in DA:O, mention of survivors of Arlathan.  Arl Foreshadow, anyone?

 

It also doesn't mean that people want a thing because they theorize about it.  Ancient Arlathans waking up is actually pretty interesting, but if they have their own agenda, or vendetta, then it might not be such a great thing after all.

 

Felassan had his own agenda.  We don't know what that agenda was, other than to provide his master/boss/whomever with the key to the eluvians.  Why?  If elves, then possibly to awaken any surviving sleepers in uthenera who may have remained locked safely away.  If anyone else, then likely for the same reason that Briala takes control--mobility and pillaging.

 

Solas has violet eyes like Felassan, and he is a Fade expert like Felassan.  They might be connected in some way, since Felassan was hinted to not be Dalish at all, would not introduce Briala to his clan, and did not appear to be a city elf either.  If Felassan's clan were reawakened Arlathans, Solas could be one.  More likely they aren't connected at all, and the eyes are a coincidence.  Do I want a connection between Solas and Felassan?  I am not sure.  It may end up being bad news, if that's the case.

[Uirebhiril]

Am I missing where it was stated that Solas has violet eyes?

[Brass_Buckles]

Am I missing where it was stated that Solas has violet eyes?

 

There's a good screenshot of him on the website.  Zoom in.  He has very bright violet eyes.

[Brass_Buckles]

Okay, fun theory time!

 

Felassan's master might be an elf in uthenera.  It is an entity in the Fade.  We don't know the identity.  He or she or it wants Felassan to gain control of the eluvians.  Why?

 

If Felassan's master needs to be freed by way of the eluvians, this makes perfect sense.  Could be a demon possessing a body in the passageways.  More likely it's an elf wanting help waking up.

 

How would this have anything to do with causing the Veil Tears?  Or maybe Felassan and his master were trying to prevent them, and we got it all wrong.  Or maybe Felassan's master is a huge jerk and causes the Veil Tears due to being unable to be wakened.

 

Just a random thought I had...

[Divine Justinia V]

his eyes were blue to me?

[Morroian]

"-you?"

 

A young elven girl, competent and powerful, but unsure of herself nonetheless, and obsessed with saving her people.  And with an interest in claiming the eluvians.

 

I thought he was about to say Andraste

[Cobra's_back]

@ RadioStar, and Ghostuber101

 

How do you get the Dalish religion doesn't exist?  There are various codex entries that you pick up in all the games, and DLC that gives information on their Gods.  If you talk to Merrill (DA2 Act 2 or 3) she tells you a story of how the gods are at war with each other.  The story that Felasslan tells Briala is really about the Dread Wolf aka Fen'Harel, his name can also mean slow arrow.  The elves are the ones who used to rule all of Thedas centuries ago before the Qunari and Humans came to Thedas.   

 

Trevinter and Orlais both conquered them (elves) because they wouldn't acknowledge/worship/Andraste as the prophet of the Maker.  They wouldn't because they had their own true religion and gods.  Just like the Dwarves worship their ancestors.

 

The eluvians are used to create the veil tears that we have to close up.  So either Briala caused the tears in the veil or someone else killed her to take control of them after the end of the TME.

 

 

I agree they have a religion.

 

This is RadioStar's comment I agree with:

 

1. Felassan is not a creator or any kind of god.  That would confirm the Dalish religion as in there are real gods. I'm thinking they are spirits.

 

 2. Felassan, his mission, and his master have nothing to do with the Dread Wolf. For more or less the same reason as number of number 1

 

I believe he was taking orders from a Tevinter dreamer and that is why he needed the PW. If it was an Ancient Elven Dreamer then I would think he already had the PW. He could also have made a deal with a powerful demon. Why a demon needed the PW i don't know.

[Wolfen09]

i just assume solas was one of fellasan's accomplices working for the same entity, solas doesnt even fit the description of fellasan...  he had facial tattoos, solas didnt

[bairdduvessa]

just a reminder i did start a felassen fan art thread, any artists, or people who doodle like i do, i'd love to see your visions of him

[themageguy]

Felassan was a somniari himself correct?
And kicked but with his elemental and primal spells.
Oh and what I'm assuming to be mana clash.

He's one if my most favourite dragon age characters. Sad to see him end...

[AltanIV]

I agree they have a religion.
 
This is RadioStar's comment I agree with:
 
1. Felassan is not a creator or any kind of god.  That would confirm the Dalish religion as in there are real gods. I'm thinking they are spirits.

Or it could mean that the creators could be, as dragondreamer mentioned, ancient elves. Doesn't mean Dalish don't have a religion, it just means their religion is mistaken. After being slaves for the Tevinter for hundred of years their knowledge has been lost and their religion, with time, could have been distorted, and they had a lot of time.
Then again it doesn't mean he was a creator, and it doesn't really matter as I don't think BW will ever prove us that any gods are real, or not.
 

Felassan was a somniari himself correct?

I assumed he was yes. At least it felt like he was.

[Quory]

Okay, fun theory time!

 

Felassan's master might be an elf in uthenera.  It is an entity in the Fade.  We don't know the identity.  He or she or it wants Felassan to gain control of the eluvians.  Why?

 

If Felassan's master needs to be freed by way of the eluvians, this makes perfect sense.  Could be a demon possessing a body in the passageways.  More likely it's an elf wanting help waking up.

 

How would this have anything to do with causing the Veil Tears?  Or maybe Felassan and his master were trying to prevent them, and we got it all wrong.  Or maybe Felassan's master is a huge jerk and causes the Veil Tears due to being unable to be wakened.

 

Just a random thought I had...

 

What I wonder if what sort of elf/person/entity would be both powerful and persuasive enough to convince Felassan, who is already extremely competent in both magic and manipulation, to go along with its plan. If Felassan fears it enough that he avoids sleeping as much as possible, I doubt they're old friends giving each other a hand. Yet, Felassan betrays it in the end, leading me to believe his relationship with this entity is not borne of worshipful desire to please his master. Perhaps their relationship could be summed up with what comes between All-Mighty-Master/disciple relationship and best buds? Some sort of teacher/student shindig? 

[Brass_Buckles]

What I wonder if what sort of elf/person/entity would be both powerful and persuasive enough to convince Felassan, who is already extremely competent in both magic and manipulation, to go along with its plan. If Felassan fears it enough that he avoids sleeping as much as possible, I doubt they're old friends giving each other a hand. Yet, Felassan betrays it in the end, leading me to believe his relationship with this entity is not borne of worshipful desire to please his master. Perhaps their relationship could be summed up with what comes between All-Mighty-Master/disciple relationship and best buds? Some sort of teacher/student shindig? 

 

Maybe this entity is/was to Felassan what Felassan is to Briala.

 

It would make a certain amount of sense if the master were an elf in uthenera, and some ritual or the like had to be performed to wake such an individual, which would mean Felassan would need to enter the eluvian system to get to the body.  Or, it may be that it's a demon needing Felassan present near such a body in order to use him as a bridge to possess that body and enter the real world.

 

And yet, I get the impression that Felassen himself may somehow be immortal (Imshael hints at it in the book, when he does not include Felassan in a comment about mortals).  How Felassen is immortal is uncertain.  Is he a blood mage?  Is he possessed by a demon or spirit?  Is there something else going on?  We don't know.

 

Clearly, you are correct, he feels inferior to this other person or entity.  Given that Felassan shows some extreme skill with magic, that says a lot about this particular character's ability.  We should be afraid, and should we meet it, we'd better be prepared.

[dragondreamer]

Sometimes I got the feeling that Felassan was to his master what Briala and Michel were to Celene.  There were some conversations he had with them where I felt like he was relating to their situations on a personal level.  Which made his ending parallel their own outcomes, in a more tragic way.  

[Quory]

That thought definitely has merit.

 

On a bit of a separate tangent, I also wonder what sort of role he held in Arlathan before its fall. When speaking with Michel, he says this:

 

"Do you know what I was in my time, boy?”

“A young Dalish elf who ran through the forest listening to stories?” Michel shot Felassan a look.

Felassan started, then laughed despite himself. “Well said, chevalier.” After a moment, he stared into the fire and let out a soft breath. “We rode the halla. They leaped with such grace and beauty as to make your horses look like Fereldan dogs by comparison. They were smarter, too.” He chuckled.

 

Is Felassan starting because Michel hit close to home, or because his guess was wildly divergent? Felassan's magical aptitude and acquaintance with a powerful entity makes me loathe to believe that he was a mere plebeian elf, yet Briala's observations of his "clothes that would better suit a woodsman" don't inspire the vision of a court elf either.

 

Edit addendum: But then again, he implies that almost every elf could work beautiful magic.

 

This not-knowing-ness is really gnawing at my mind now. I can only hope that the reason TME left so much said unspoken is because all will be revealed come October. 

[dragondreamer]

 

That thought definitely has merit.

 

On a bit of a separate tangent, I also wonder what sort of role he held in Arlathan before its fall. When speaking with Michel, he says this:

 

"Do you know what I was in my time, boy?”

“A young Dalish elf who ran through the forest listening to stories?” Michel shot Felassan a look.

Felassan started, then laughed despite himself. “Well said, chevalier.” After a moment, he stared into the fire and let out a soft breath. “We rode the halla. They leaped with such grace and beauty as to make your horses look like Fereldan dogs by comparison. They were smarter, too.” He chuckled.

 

Is Felassan starting because Michel hit close to home, or because his guess was wildly divergent? Felassan's magical aptitude and acquaintance with a powerful entity makes me loathe to believe that he was a mere plebeian elf, yet Briala's observations of his "clothes that would better suit a woodsman" don't inspire the vision of a court elf either.

 

Edit addendum: But then again, he implies that almost every elf could work beautiful magic.

 

This not-knowing-ness is really gnawing at my mind now. I can only hope that the reason TME left so much said unspoken is because all will be revealed come October. 

 

 

Yes, that entire conversation with Michel...  I felt like Michel unknowingly reminded Felassan that he was supposed to be Dalish there.  Which would be interesting since he was talking to Michel about how he was hiding what he really was, and he seemed to be sympathizing rather than shaming him.  They're both hiding their true selves behind masks of a different sort.  Given how this conversation compares Felassan to a veteran and he talks about riding the halla, I get the image of the old elven knights who rode halla.  There's an implied comparison with the chevaliers that impacts Michel, since he related the stories of halla riders with chevaliers in his childhood.  If Felassan is an ancient elf, maybe he was even an Arcane Warrior.  

[Maria13]

By the way, did anyone else laugh out loud at the line, "Please, call me Imshael"?  Oh, that Mr. Weekes.

 

Yeah, I did, thought it was a classy reference!

[Former_Fiend]

I must admit, his history with Imshael is what has me the most interested.

[Maria13]

I loved his character and was very intrigued by him. 

 

Something that struck me when finishing the novel was the story he told Briala about Fen'Harel.  Very similar to the same story that Merrill tells Hawke about the Gods being at war.  Then his demise happens.  I got the impression it was Fen'Harel who killed him.  I've also come to the conclusion that Fen'Harel is the Maker. 

 

Fen'Harel walks between the Forgotten Ones and the Creators.   The Dread Wolf aka Fen'Harel imprisons both of these gods sets.  The Forgotten Ones (Trevinter aka the Dragons in the earth and the Creators in their heavenly realm).

 

Felassan helps Briala get the keystone to unlock the eluvians and the secret phrase refers to Fen'Harel.  The Dalish now have a way to fight against humans, city elves, dwarves, and the chaotic chantry.  If anybody would be ticked about that it would seem to me to be the Maker.

 

I also got the impression he encouraged Briala to turn against Celiene. 

 

Ok, so was he one of the creators?  He also tells Briala the story of the two elven creator gods who tried to kill each other.

 

Hi Evalia!

 

Having just finished the book and not knowing half the elven law you guys do my impressions were... Felassen is related to Fen'Harel, he's a ronin, a rogue, his mission is to make mischief so he isn't necessarily even entirely faithful to his supposed Master, as we saw...

 

His Master? My money's on Morrie... Agreed with the poster above that he was about to say "She reminds me of... You" and that bought to mind Morrie isolated and pregnant in Orlais. I think there is an argument to be made that the master is female (Bioware are deeply into politically correct language, right?). Morrie is not an elf so she'd need the assistance of one to really get a grip over the eluvians. Morrie is evil or at least a darker shade of grey and she would need the eluvians for her showdown with Mommie...

 

Haven't caught up with the latest on DA:I and haven't played Witchhunt so I could be seriously wrong.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

The big bad can't really be anyone normal like Morrigan or Merrill. He was killed in the fade. He even contemplated hiding from his master by using the herbs that prevented him from entering the fade. It seemed pretty clear that it was Fen'harel to me because Felassan had just spent the entire book trying to teach Briala to act like Fen'harel and ruthlessly manipulate stronger parties to her advantage. In his previous conversation he said to Briala "He might [approve], but I doubt it." So when he was talking to his master him saying "I know you'll hate this, but she reminds me of [you]" makes sense if he was talking to the Dread Wolf.

[Maria13]

The big bad can't really be anyone normal like Morrigan or Merrill. He was killed in the fade. He even contemplated hiding from his master by using the herbs that prevented him from entering the fade. It seemed pretty clear that it was Fen'harel to me because Felassan had just spent the entire book trying to teach Briala to act like Fen'harel and ruthlessly manipulate stronger parties to her advantage. In his previous conversation he said to Briala "He might [approve], but I doubt it." So when he was talking to his master him saying "I know you'll hate this, but she reminds me of [you]" makes sense if he was talking to the Dread Wolf.

 

Sorry but Flemeth could easily kill someone in the fade and I wouldn't put it past Morrigan either, who is a bit more than your average mage, why would a god like Fen'harel need the eluvians anyway?

[Former_Fiend]

Sorry but Flemeth could easily kill someone in the fade and I wouldn't put it past Morrigan either, who is a bit more than your average mage, why would a god like Fen'harel need the eluvians anyway?

 

Have we seen Flemeth kill anyone in the Fade? I wouldn't necessarily put it past her, but saying she could "easily" do it as a matter of certainty is assigning Flemeth power that we haven't seen her demonstrate.