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Sorry but Flemeth could easily kill someone in the fade and I wouldn't put it past Morrigan either, who is a bit more than your average mage, why would a god like Fen'harel need the eluvians anyway?

 

Flemeth or Morrigan would just kill him in the waking world. We don't know the full extent of the Eluvian's capabilities yet. Maybe they can connect to the fade too.



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I'm pretty sure Felessan was referring specifically to Tevinter copying the elven magic runes, rather than the society as a whole.

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I don't think his tattoos alone shifted. The way some of the others were discussed it sounded like they all moved and shifted, but seemingly only as a descriptor for their current emotions. There were tons of lines like "And his tattoos appeared to change as he was angered" or whatever.

 

I think I liked Felassan more than any mage in any game, book or comic so far because he wasn't a whiny baby about his powers. He was totally cool about being a mage. I love love loved that.

 

I want more mages that are cool about magic. Like "Let me start the fire! *zap* Man I'm so cool!" or even pranky like "Oh hey Quizzitor... sure looks like you worked hard on your hair for the ball tonight.. *Zap, hair goes comicly staticy* Woops! teehehehehehe"


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I don't think his tattoos alone shifted. The way some of the others were discussed it sounded like they all moved and shifted, but seemingly only as a descriptor for their current emotions. There were tons of lines like "And his tattoos appeared to change as he was angered" or whatever.

 

I think I liked Felassan more than any mage in any game, book or comic so far because he wasn't a whiny baby about his powers. He was totally cool about being a mage. I love love loved that.

 

I want more mages that are cool about magic. Like "Let me start the fire! *zap* Man I'm so cool!" or even pranky like "Oh hey Quizzitor... sure looks like you worked hard on your hair for the ball tonight.. *Zap, hair goes comicly staticy* Woops! teehehehehehe"

 

Felassan didn't really waste his magic like that, though... and it wouldn't be encouraged to use magic to play with, in any case.  Mostly because it's a waste of magical energy when you might need that for something important.  Imagine you've just been wasting your magic playing pranks etc. and now you're suddenly under attack by darkspawn, and don't have the energy to do many attacks against them...


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Felassan didn't really waste his magic like that, though... and it wouldn't be encouraged to use magic to play with, in any case.  Mostly because it's a waste of magical energy when you might need that for something important.  Imagine you've just been wasting your magic playing pranks etc. and now you're suddenly under attack by darkspawn, and don't have the energy to do many attacks against them...

 

So chug a lyrium potion.



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I get this feeling from that concept art we saw of Sera in the tavern with the crew she will be very similar, in attitude at least, to Felassan.



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So chug a lyrium potion.

 

Except that we're told that potions etc. will be  hard to come by in Inquisition.  And lyrium is really expensive, so you wouldn't want to waste it, again, on anything frivolous.

 

I could see a mage being playful if they'd been raised to be perfectly okay with magic, or if they were an ancient elf, or from Tevinter.  Otherwise, most people in Thedas would be well aware of the threat of demons, would be worried about terrifying the people around them and setting them against the mage, etc.



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Even Felassan was keenly aware of the dangers of magic and treated the situations seriously, he just tended to have a very irreverent demeanor.


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I gotta say, I wasnt the most impressed with "The Masked Empire" at the beginning (Generaly speaking I hate the Orlesians, to much price for me <_< ), BUT once Felassan entered the book the whole thing changed for me :D  LOVED him, also the book got a lot better once things started rolling, as I said I wasnt impressed at the beginning but it turned into a very awesome adventure :lol: . Anyway, Felassan is hands down one of my favorite Dragon Age characters now ... kinda sux he got killed off at the end :unsure:  BUT that doesnt mean we wont see him again, thats kinda of the fun of loving a fantasy saga with magic and loopholes, so who knows .... I can hope right ? :P


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Not well evidently, otherwise they wouldn't have fled to the fade to escape the Imperiums wrath in the first place =P

The elves who entered uthenera (elven words are all italicized in the novel, lol) were not escaping the Tevinter Imperium, it was seen as achieving perfection:

 

"If the wrist was bare of scent it meant that the dreamer had learned to draw sustenance from the Fade itself, and would never need to be fed again. Those true dreamers were placed in beds of purest white, signifying the dreamer's achievement of perfection." (pg. 317)

 

This plus another comment from Felassan that I can't find right now about stories making Gods rather than the other way around leads me to believe that the Elven 'Creators' may just be the most powerful of the Elven Somniari who 'ascended' to Uthenera and achieved so-called perfection. It was also heavily implied that Uthenera is permanent. When Felassan was describing what the sleepers could have done for the elves it all involves working from inside the Fade, not waking up and using their great power back on Thedas. This would make the Elven God sleepers who can act only in the Fade, and interact with their worshippers through dreams/visions, and that certainly fits with the 'misnomer' of Gods that Fantasy settings often use that doesn't actually preclude a 'real' God from existing (and certainly doesn't prove it).

 

Having gone through that I'd say that I believe Felassan's master is Fen'Harel himself. At the very least it is most certainly a sleeping elf that is stuck in Uthenera. When Felassan is thinking of running from his master rather than facing his (gender assumption) displeasure he thinks of not dreaming and of blocking the Fade, so that certainly supports the idea of an Elven sleeper. If I am correct (big assumption lolz) that Fen'Harel is an ancient elven sleeper then it isn't much of a stretch to link him to Felassan's master.

 

This is also kind of supported by Felassan's distance from not only city elves but from the Dalish as well. Fen'Harel is neither a Creator nor a Forgotton One, he is like the Norse God Loki who walks the line between 'good' god and 'bad' god, which would mean his worshipers would doubtless also walk a much more ambiguous path, which is certainly what Felassan does.

 

ps: Felassan is one of my favorite characters in any fantasy setting. He reminds of Gold/Rumple in Once Upon a Time.


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@ Maria13

 

Hey Maria, good to hear from you.

 

Wow, I never ever considered that Morrigan might have killed Briala to gain control of all the eluvians.  Honestly, I wouldn't put it past her.  We already know she controls one in Dragon Bone Waste in Ferelden (near Amaranthine).  Worth considering I think. 

 

So Morrigan had to get a keystone and the word Fen'Harel.  Hmmm, interesting.  Morrigan did say in WH that she had gone to a lot of trouble to activate the mirror. 

 

Does anyone think Morrigan is guarding the mirrors for Flemeth?  I still can't decide if they are working together.



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I'm so glad someone ressed this thread, I want this dude not dead, he's too interesting to be dead...or tranquil...



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We know that Felassan was killed in the fade, but in the book Asunder, there is a cure for being made tranquil, so maybe all hope isn't lost.  Time will tell I guess.



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We know that Felassan was killed in the fade, but in the book Asunder, there is a cure for being made tranquil, so maybe all hope isn't lost.  Time will tell I guess.

Indeed, it would be a shame and a waste of an intriguing character if he's gone.



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I do think that Felassan is dead, but that doesn't mean his story is over. From the book it seemed like he knew his death was coming, he was avoiding sleeping for that reason, I think? I like to imagine he was cunning enough to set some things in motion before he went. So Felassan might be dead but perhaps the 'Slow Arrow' is still falling, as in the story. Who knows! Speculation is fun! I'm glad I found all these theories :P



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Is there anything to actually back up the "killed in the Fade makes you Tranquil" idea rather than "killed in the Fade makes you DEAD" - or is it all just wishful thinking trying to save a favourite character?  I can understand that, but it just seems like so many clutched drinking tubes.



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Is there anything to actually back up the "killed in the Fade makes you Tranquil" idea rather than "killed in the Fade makes you DEAD" - or is it all just wishful thinking trying to save a favourite character?  I can understand that, but it just seems like so many clutched drinking tubes.

 

I'm pretty sure when you killed Feynriel in the Fade he ended up tranquil.

 

Edit: Ok, looked it up.  From the DA Wiki on "Night Terrors"

 

After a conversation with Keeper Marethari and Arianni, the Keeper will talk to Hawke in private, asking them to kill Feynriel in the Fade should he prove too weak to control his abilities, and risk becoming an abomination. She explains that killing Feynriel in the Fade would make him Tranquil, and no longer a threat.



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They still don't have "slaves" in the same way Tevinter does. It's not institutionalized nor inextricable from their society nor as common and brutal. Leliana herself says that there is no slavery in Orlais, it's the elf warden that puts forward the notion in that conversation. And the slave trade is illegal in Orlais.



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I've read only some parts of masked empire so please pardon me :3

As much as I want Felassan to be alive and be at least a tranquil :unsure:  his story had ended when Fen'harel stabbed him in the back and left him to die. Felassan knows more about the fade than any of us so he would know if he were to survive his encounter with the entity. He knew he was gonna die though, and as for his body, it died along with his spirit. Remember that Felassan is not just a simple mage elf and he is diffidently not a dalish elf.

I think that he gave himself those markings to fit in with the world, for the humans and other races will pay no mind to a 'dalish.'

a best case scenario would be that Felassan taught Solas all that he needed to know before he traveled with Brila one last time. x] Solas's name has the same ring as Felassan, not to mention they both smile a lot. it would be cool if we come across Felassan's body in Inquisition, but i really doubt that we'll see it. yeah XD that's pretty morbid.

Oh! and 
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We are all aware that Felassan kept referring to Brila as Fen'harel right? he really believes that girl will have stories of her own in the years to come. which, of course is part way true  :lol: but her, and the Inquisitor, Inquisition is gun bee gud



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I've read only some parts of masked empire so please pardon me :3

As much as I want Felassan to be alive and be at least a tranquil :unsure:  his story had ended when Fen'harel stabbed him in the back and left him to die. Felassan knows more about the fade than any of us so he would know if he were to survive his encounter with the entity. He knew he was gonna die though, and as for his body, it died along with his spirit. Remember that Felassan is not just a simple mage elf and he is diffidently not a dalish elf.

I think that he gave himself those markings to fit in with the world, for the humans and other races will pay no mind to a 'dalish.'

a best case scenario would be that Felassan taught Solas all that he needed to know before he traveled with Brila one last time. x] Solas's name has the same ring as Felassan, not to mention they both smile a lot. it would be cool if we come across Felassan's body in Inquisition, but i really doubt that we'll see it. yeah XD that's pretty morbid.

Oh! and 
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We are all aware that Felassan kept referring to Brila as Fen'harel right? he really believes that girl will have stories of her own in the years to come. which, of course is part way true  :lol: but her, and the Inquisitor, Inquisition is gun bee gud

I actually think Bioware may make it so we (the Inquisition) have to aid Briala, rather than having a choice whether to help the elves of not. It isn't unprecendented, we were forced to Help Arl Eamon in DAO, in DAA we free Kal'Hirol for the dwarves with no other choice. So it isn't beyond the realm of possibility that the Briala story arc ends the same way (more or less) for all players.

 

And we don't know that when Felassan was 'killed' in the fade it also killed his body, since if Hawke 'kills' Feynriel he doesn't die.


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writers can always retcon to suit their needs



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Is there anything to actually back up the "killed in the Fade makes you Tranquil" idea rather than "killed in the Fade makes you DEAD" - or is it all just wishful thinking trying to save a favourite character? I can understand that, but it just seems like so many clutched drinking tubes.

I think only somniari become tranquil if killed in the Fade. On the quest to free Feynriel, the companions Hawke kills just wake up. Even the mages. Only Feynriel can be rendered tranquil.

On the other hand, we also know that somniari can kill people through the Fade (Feynriel does it if he goes to Tevinter), so that's probably closer to what happened.

At any rate, it's pretty clear that Felassan expected to die in the physical world. He explicitly takes down his camp's defenses. My money's on him being 100% dead.
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I could see Felassan being Solas if being killed in the Fade made you Tranquil, and his face tattoos were magic - because since he was now Tranquil, he would no longer be able to create them.

 

I think only somniari become tranquil if killed in the Fade. On the quest to free Feynriel, the companions Hawke kills just wake up. Even the mages. Only Feynriel can be rendered tranquil.

 

I think its arguable if you actually kill your companions - they never die when they run out of health in the game, but are just "knocked out." So presumably, when you fight them in the fade, you are also just knocking them out.

 

Also, if only dreamers do become tranquil, we don't have any proof (that I know of, correct me if I'm wrong), that Felassan isn't a dreamer.

 

But I also don't want Solas to be Felassan because I think having too many characters in the games be from the books is unfair to people who don't read the books. It looks like we already have Cole in that situation, I think having 2 companions be from the books is too much.