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[EkhidnaDrakaina]

I don't get the impression Corypheus would work with anyone unless said power was greater than he. Also, he seemed mighty confused when Hawke fought him. Since he is displaced in time, quite mad (in the insane sense) and who knows what else is out of place, I think it would be a little difficult to convince him to join a side.

[Squeeze the Fish]

@TheCreeper: A fair point, but I was more thinking along the lines of them getting into the lyrium trade business. I should have specified.

[Grieving Natashina]

I don't get the impression Corypheus would work with anyone unless said power was greater than he. Also, he seemed mighty confused when Hawke fought him. Since he is displaced in time, quite mad (in the insane sense) and who knows what else is out of place, I think it would be a little difficult to convince him to join a side.

I think it's safe to say that whatever can tear through the very fabric of reality like wet paper is a greater power than Corypheus and one he would certainly respect.  Oh and after he (apparently) possesses one of the Wardens, he's very lucid and seems have it together.  I have a couple of theories on that, but I think Cory involved in this.

[TheCreeper]

I think it's safe to say that whatever can tear through the very fabric of reality like wet paper is a greater power than Corypheus and one he would certainly respect.  Oh and after he possesses one of the Warden, he's very lucid and seems have it together.  I have a couple of theories on that, but I think Cory involved in this.

Yeah. If the Big bad is one of the people I think it is, I could easy see Corypheus allying with them.

[Grieving Natashina]

Yeah. If the Big bad is one of the people I think it is, I could easy see Corypheus allying with them.

Plus, nothing like a good beating and a body jump to make a guy fully wake up and get with the program.  

[Dermain]

Plus, nothing like a good beating and a body jump to make a guy fully wake up and get with the program.  

 

Well I'm assuming the body jump would also give him the memories of the person, similar to what happens during demonic possession. Assuming that is true, he may have been able to appear more lucid simply by now knowing what was going on in the world, or at least what the person he possessed knew of the world.

[Grieving Natashina]

Well I'm assuming the body jump would also give him the memories of the person, similar to what happens during demonic possession. Assuming that is true, he may have been able to appear more lucid simply by now knowing what was going on in the world, or at least what the person he possessed knew of the world.

I think that's semantics, but either way, we agree.  

[CELL55]

Because the Wardens are worth the most experience points. When trying to make an elite army quickly like the Inquisition, there's just no time to mess around.

[Nefla]

It's revenge for when they forcibly conscripted my Cousland warden. Sorry guys, my bad!

[n7stormrunner]

Because the Wardens are worth the most experience points. When trying to make an elite army quickly like the Inquisition, there's just no time to mess around.

 

 

no, I have inside infomation bunnies are worth 3 more exp then wardens, but don't tell anyone

[ObserverStatus]

The Wardens are indoctrinated.

[Grieving Natashina]

The Wardens are indoctrinated.

Who or what do you think is doing it though?

[ObserverStatus]

Who or what do you think is doing it though?

I dunno, Flemeth? Demons? An Old God? Red lyrium? Whoever it is, I doubt they're going to let the Inquisitor out of listening to their justification for doing so.

[TurretSyndrome]

I understand taking on the role of the inquisitor differs from the role of the Warden but where is your compassion for a character you played with for more than 40 hours with?! The Grey Wardens are needed and cutting them down just makes you sound as stupid as Loghain and all those assholes that thought they could defeat the blight and do it better than the Wardens.

 

We are not part of that order anymore, we have no connection to it. Don't let your player knowledge cloud your character's judgement. My character's view is clear, Fade and demons are the greatest danger, not the Darkspawn. So if the wardens come in between my character and his goals, of course I will cut them down. That doesn't make me Loghan-stupid as all he did was be stubborn and not accept aid from Orlais or the Grey Wardens, and going as far as branding the order traitors and king-slayers.

 

Also, how does your character know that the wardens are important for the blights and why? Again, keep your player knowledge in check. There is no reason for us to feel that they are important. Having said that, we are not on a quest to exterminate the wardens, only to deal with the Fade tears. Just as the wardens don't give two fucks about demons, we have no reason to give any importance to what they do. If there are times when they want to stop us(like in Legacy) from doing something where we believe that it must be done, then killing them is an option, sure. 

[Maria Caliban]

I've wanted to stab a GW ever since Duncan forced the Joining on the PC.

I think we're attacking them because they are jerkfaces.

[Todd23]

It makes you wonder why if you let the Architect live; does his disciples in DA2 trick the wardens (who at that point would be allies) and even try to get them killed when it came to investigating the thaig filled with red lyrium.

[Newschmoo]

As others have posted, I think Corypheus has a hand in this somewhere. And I hope the GW do put up a hard battle - they are supposed to be some of the best warriors/fighters.

My only hope is that my warden and Nathaniel aren't amongst those GW we do have to fight.

[HydroFlame20]

Its obvious those selfish pricks of Wardens threw a Bash, had hot men and women there and left US off the Guest List well screw them. If your going to insult us then you deserve nothing less then for us to storm the party.

[Fredward]

They insulted my mother.

[Squeeze the Fish]

My only hope is that my warden and Nathaniel aren't amongst those GW we do have to fight.

 

This x100. Nathaniel is my unhealthy obsession for DA. I couldn't do it.

[Boombox]

I hope if they are controlled it's by Corypheus somehow and not red lyrium. (I don't want that to be the new ME3 indoctrination)

I wonder if we'll have to fight some old GW companions? It'll be sad to have to cut down Nathaniel and.. yeh actually just him. Imagine Oghren on red lyrium tho'! lol.

[JoltDealer]

As I've stated in another thread, there is no evidence to truly support the notion that the Grey Wardens are "good guys."  Allistair was a good man, sure, but Duncan was the kind of man who would kill someone to preserve Grey Warden secrets (i.e. Ser Jory).  As for Riordan, we didn't know him well enough to accurately sum up his personality.  The Grey Wardens are incredibly secretive about their order.  It's even said that they know where the remaining Old Gods are imprisoned, yet they do nothing with this information.  Attacking them doesn't seem all too unusual once you think about it.

[Gorguz]

As I've stated in another thread, there is no evidence to truly support the notion that the Grey Wardens are "good guys."  Allistair was a good man, sure, but Duncan was the kind of man who would kill someone to preserve Grey Warden secrets (i.e. Ser Jory).  As for Riordan, we didn't know him well enough to accurately sum up his personality.  The Grey Wardens are incredibly secretive about their order.  It's even said that they know where the remaining Old Gods are imprisoned, yet they do nothing with this information.  Attacking them doesn't seem all too unusual once you think about it.

Well, reaching an old god it's a bet: you win or lose everything. Once you have made your path to it, you kill it before the dark spawn overwhelm you (they can pass through the hole you dig), or you start an other blight. And reaching an old god it's not the easiest thing to do. There are going to be lot of dark spawn camping nearby, listening to the call. So the wardens should go in the deep roads with an army, fight thousands of dark spawn, keep the place secure until the digging is done, and kill a dragon. And if they fail, they are going to face a blight (without the army they lost in the deep roads). It's a hard bet to do.

[Welsh Inferno]

Personally I think its just going to be about them now using Red Lyrium for the joining ritual. I think they tested it while unaware of the very bad future side effects and found it was much more successful then regular Lyrium at making sure the Wardens survive the joining. We know what the joining ritual entails because we've played as the Warden but because WE as the Inquisition have no idea, all we see is that the Wardens are using Red Lyrium, just like our enemies the Red Templars and maybe others. We have no idea WHY they are using it. And they wont tell us because Wardens like to keep their secrets. So then we have one choice, to attack them and find out why. Its a recipe for disaster. 

 

This batch of Wardens have probably become pawns of the big bad though by now. I do hope that the entire order hasn't become corrupted by the red lyrium though.