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#126
Cainhurst Crow

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I honestly, just to weigh in on this a bit more, think that the body of said neutral character has to be something that isn't human in order to work. Just having a mismatched sort of gender, or a character who looks like one gender but is actually another, doesn't really meet the whole gender neutral criteria as much as people would like to think it does. As others have stated, we have some cultures with more then 2 genders, of which the transsexual variety could fall under. So to me, if it can be classified as being part of an identified gender, it doesn't really possess a gender neutral identity, its just a gender that doesn't exist in the older english language.

 

The reason I choose a suit of armor with a entity occupying it was because, a suit of armor doesn't have any sort of biological sex, and can be made gender neutral in aesthetics a lot easier then a body of flesh and blood could. I don't know a lot of people who look at a suit o armor and go, "that's a boy or that's a girl or that's something in between" when they see it. In my opinion shale worked well because shale's body wasn't set more one way then the other, at least to me. It was a golem, and it physically did not possess a sex and by extention a gender. The spirit part was because spirits exist in a realm where they don't have a need for gender, and so wouldn't have any sort of concept of the sort to have to play on. It'll just exist, and not be a male who looks female, a female who looks male, a male who acts like a female, a female who acts like a memeber, or any other sort of mix that is already defined and named within the modern language. It'll just be, as it is, undefined by any of our own standards in both body and in spirit.

 

At least that's my own two cents on the matter.



#127
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Suits of armor work considering either gender can use it leaving it ambiguous. Only real problem is the voice. Either the suit of armor uses movement and actions to project its mood and opinions and such. Or the suit leaves it to us to decide what "mortal mannerisms" to call it.

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Suits of armor work considering either gender can use it leaving it ambiguous. Only real problem is the voice. Either the suit of armor uses movement and actions to project its mood and opinions and such. Or the suit leaves it to us to decide what "mortal mannerisms" to call it.

 

Never underestimate the power of hand motions and body language. Also, I don't think voice will be that big of a problem. You'd be surprised at what you can do in editing software no-a-days. You could overlap two voice actors voices together without much effort and add on distortions later, or you could even have a distorted effect with a single voice actor doing two line reads with different vocal ranges and splice them together, or even a single read that you then edit in post.



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Also. I'm not one to gush over Romance, but in this case it would prove interesting. You fall in love with the personality rather than the beauty. Spirits becoming to understand mortal learn they are worth fighting for and such.

Honestly I wish that were an option with Legion in Mass Effect. Legion learning such emotional connection then learning what it means. If not Garrus and Tali who hook up I would gravitate to this a bit more.

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I really would not have liked a romance path for legion, he was fine just the way he was in ME2, endearing and confusion at organics behavior and all. Same with this character, I would prefer if we didn't get into the romance of a suit of armor. In all honesty, I'd have it play out like avelines romance path, if I could.