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[SunburnedPenguin]

Hello all, liking the newforum, though there doesn't seem to be a techy section (unless I completely missed it) so posting here.

 

I want to get a new graphics card before the release of DAI and I know there will be some excellent advice to get here

 

I built my PC 5 years ago and it's had 1 graphics update and extra memory added since, but i've been so out of the loop in recent years i'm a little confsed by whats available.

 

Here is my current set up: (any more info needed please just ask)

 

Windows 7 home premium 64bit

450 watts PSU

Motherboard: Asus P5Q Pro

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @3MGHZ

5GB Ram

Realtek HD Audio

ATI Radeon HD 5450

 

I'm looking at spending around £100 (GBP), and maybe a little more of I need other upgrades ie more wattage and RAM.

 

Thanks in advance

[TKavatar]

I would suggest getting a GTX 750Ti as it only draws power from the PCI connectors. It's about 130 pounds.

But you should really think about upgrading everything. Your system is pretty outdated now.

[SunburnedPenguin]

I would suggest getting a GTX 750Ti as it only draws power from the PCI connectors. It's about 130 pounds.

But you should really think about upgrading everything. Your system is pretty outdated now.

 

Yes I know, but one step at a time, and graphics is my main priority atm

 

Out of interest though, what other upgrades would you suggest?

[TKavatar]

Yes I know, but one step at a time, and graphics is my main priority atm
 
Out of interest though, what other upgrades would you suggest?

What's your budget? Because the CPU is going to bottleneck your system hard. I would suggest going with an AMD GPU then because DAI (most likely) supports AMD's Mantle which removes such bottlenecks, but then you would have to get a new PSU as well.

[metatheurgist]

What's your budget? Because the CPU is going to bottleneck your system hard. I would suggest going with an AMD GPU then because DAI (most likely) supports AMD's Mantle which removes such bottlenecks, but then you would have to get a new PSU as well.

Probably needs a new motherboard if he's changing CPU, that would probably break his budget. I doubt DAI is going to push most systems. RPGs rarely do. OP can probably get by with just upgrading the GPU. Just make sure you get one that works for your 5 year old board.

[TKavatar]

Probably needs a new motherboard if he's changing CPU, that would probably break his budget. I doubt DAI is going to push most systems. RPGs rarely do. OP can probably get by with just upgrading the GPU. Just make sure you get one that works for your 5 year old board.

He might have to change his PSU (it's pretty old and the newest GPUs require a bit more extra power) if he's getting another GPU that runs off the PSU, hence why I suggested the 750Ti because it's very power efficient using the PCI connectors only. His current CPU will bottleneck the 750Ti though.

But if OP can spare a bit more it's probably wise to get a AMD GPU and a PSU. They will work on his mobo, and Mantle will remove CPU bottlenecks until he can upgrade his CPU.

[SunburnedPenguin]

Wait, a GPU is different to a graphics card? Wow I really have been out the loop for some time :/

 

I'll have a look at all the suggestions when I have coffee and more than 10 minutes to concentrate lol.

 

Thanks

 

P.S. I should probably get an avatar as the default is a he, I am a she

[TKavatar]

Wait, a GPU is different to a graphics card? Wow I really have been out the loop for some time :/
 
I'll have a look at all the suggestions when I have coffee and more than 10 minutes to concentrate lol.
 
Thanks
 
P.S. I should probably get an avatar as the default is a he, I am a she

It's the same lol, GPU stands for Graphics Processing Unit.

[TurretSyndrome]

Your CPU is pretty old and DA:I certainly has a lot of AI processes and other calculations going on that even if you get a really good card, your PC will still not function optimally. Then again, your biggest concern should be getting a nice and powerful graphics card that your motherboard can support along with a PSU that can sufficiently supply it. Go for AMD, they're usually cheaper in mid range than their Nvidia counterparts. 

 

If you can afford it, really just get atleast an i5 range processor.

 

BTW, GPU is just the processor that's inside the graphics card. The card itself is just a bundle of a processor + RAM(video) and other stuff. People usually just say GPU instead of typing "graphics card" most times(I do that when I'm lazy).

[Ymirr]

GPU is the processor on the graphic card, lots of fancy names really. 

Got a new card myself yesterday, OC'd GTX 780TI, quite expensive though. I would say the build you have now needs more than a graphics card, and seeing the budget, it almost seems like a console would be a better option. 

There are certain online stores that sell upgrade packages however, with Motherboard, CPU, RAM, and sometimes more.

[SunburnedPenguin]

Thanks all. I would rather spend money on upgrading then going over to console. I have a PS3 but have never used it to game, it's just not my bag. Thanks for the suggestion though

 

So i'm getting the idea that I really need to be looking at a new CPU and PSU too. That doable I guess. Atleast I have a few months to get saving lol.

[Ymirr]

Thing is, if you're going to upgrade your CPU you're going to need a new motherboard with fitting chipset, also ram, the ones you have now are ddr2, new mobo use ddr3. So, you would basically end up building a completely new machine.

I wouldn't want a console either 

[SunburnedPenguin]

Thing is, if you're going to upgrade your CPU you're going to need a new motherboard with fitting chipset, also ram, the ones you have now are ddr2, new mobo use ddr3. So, you would basically end up building a completely new machine.

I wouldn't want a console either 

 

Yes and i'm guessing new casing aswell lol.

 

Maybe i'll look at some finance options to just get a new gaming machine. This one is still good for a while for everything else

[Ymirr]

When I built my first computer, I picked a big ass chassis and a high wattage PSU, preparing for future upgrades. Since you got room for an ATX card, you probably got room for upgrades. You got close to 6 months on you,

[TurretSyndrome]

Yes and i'm guessing new casing aswell lol.

 

Maybe i'll look at some finance options to just get a new gaming machine. This one is still good for a while for everything else

 

 

The best thing about PC gaming is we don't need to get a completely new system every single time, just replace a few parts. For now just save up money, only start looking to buy the hardware when you think you really need it, because prices drop pretty significantly in a few months time.

 

 Once you get the graphics card and the PSU, just see if you can atleast get the game working at 30 FPS on whatever monitor you have(hopefully it's not HD). If you don't have a HD monitor/TV that you want to play the game on, you might actually get it to work without even needing to upgrade that CPU of yours(provided you know not to try and multi task with a game like DA:I running in the background).

[SunburnedPenguin]

The best thing about PC gaming is we don't need to get a completely new system every single time, just replace a few parts. For now just save up money, only start looking to buy the hardware when you think you really need it, because prices drop pretty significantly in a few months time.

 

 Once you get the graphics card and the PSU, just see if you can atleast get the game working at 30 FPS on whatever monitor you have(hopefully it's not HD). If you don't have a HD monitor/TV that you want to play the game on, you might actually get it to work without even needing to upgrade that CPU of yours(provided you know not to try and multi task with a game like DA:I running in the background).

 

Yes my monitor is HD

 

I definitely have room to upgrade. I'm just thinking lazy. But ok....

 

So if I was going to start upgrading everything, and could only do it one item at a time (say once a month on payday), am I right in thinking it would be in this order:

 

PSU

Motherboard

CPU

Graphics

RAM

Fans (fans are ok and i've added a PCI slot double fan so have 4 small ones going, plus CPU fan, but they are bloody noisy wo would like to get quiter versions eventually).

[Drift Avalii]

That sounds about right to me. I'm mid-upgrading mine, and using the order:

 

PSU

Mobo

Graphics

Case

Ram

SSHD

 

Primarily that's because my CPU is standing up well and I had a stupid mini case that my R9 280-X wouldn't fit into! Some of the cards are big so I would definitely suggest you have a good-sized case with half-decent cooling.

[TurretSyndrome]

Yes my monitor is HD

 

I definitely have room to upgrade. I'm just thinking lazy. But ok....

 

So if I was going to start upgrading everything, and could only do it one item at a time (say once a month on payday), am I right in thinking it would be in this order:

 

PSU

Motherboard

CPU

Graphics

RAM

Fans (fans are ok and i've added a PCI slot double fan so have 4 small ones going, plus CPU fan, but they are bloody noisy wo would like to get quiter versions eventually).

 

Just curious, do you have a tendency to not be able restrain yourself from buying stuff after saving up a lot of money for a while? If so, I can understand why would want to buy the components right away on your payday.  But really, the best away is to save up now, wait for the game's release and get all the components at once(maybe you could even cut a deal with the seller to give you a copy of DA:I for free). Anyway, if you want to buy it in an order then:

 

CPU + Motherboard

GPU + PSU

RAM

Fans

 

This would be how I'd do it. I wouldn't recommend PSU first, as what PSU you need would be determined by the rest of them. I wrote CPU + Motherboard because that's how you should buy them, your motherboard needs to be able to support the CPU going in. Since the GPU will probably be the one requiring the most power, it'll be the determining factor on what PSU you need to get. Hence why I did the same with them. Get DDR3 8 GB RAM 1866 Mhz should be more than sufficient. Fans go last and are upto you.

 

If you wanna game on your HD screen, you're looking at a 600$ to 800$ total expense depending on where you live, but it will last you a long time.

[dielveio]

Intel i5 4gen, 8gb RAM, GTX 770, and you're set for DAI. Forget AMD mantle, it only makes diference for weak CPU/GPU.

[Deadmuskrat]

I'm going to be buying a new graphic card for DA:I, as well.

I'm wondering, do you think we will see a price drop in current nvidia cards before release? I'm holding out on buying a GTX 780 until at least September

[TurretSyndrome]

I'm going to be buying a new graphic card for DA:I, as well.

I'm wondering, do you think we will see a price drop in current nvidia cards before release? I'm holding out on buying a GTX 780 until at least September

 

 

Trust me, 6 months is ample time to see a price drop, that's why I didn't suggest any specific configuration for the OP. It's best to wait rather than buying now and feeling disappointed that your card has been replaced by a better one for the same price six months later.

[AlanC9]

Probably needs a new motherboard if he's changing CPU, that would probably break his budget. I doubt DAI is going to push most systems. RPGs rarely do. OP can probably get by with just upgrading the GPU. Just make sure you get one that works for your 5 year old board.

When Bio pushes rigs, it's by accident. Ever try to play DAO on a Vista rig with 3 gigs of RAM, which is double the minimum req? It's playable, sure, except when a lot of enemies spawn in and overwhelm the queues with all their startup scripts. (Good thing they fixed this for DA2 or that game would have been unplayable.)

Shouldn't have to worry about this sort of thing for DAI, though, since the engine's been in use for a while.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Trust me, 6 months is ample time to see a price drop, that's why I didn't suggest any specific configuration for the OP. It's best to wait rather than buying now and feeling disappointed that your card has been replaced by a better one for the same price six months later.

Exactly my thinking.  I'll be getting a whole new rig this year, but I'm going to wait as long as possible to do it.

 

I got my current machine in 2008, so it's time for a new build.

[Melca36]

People should keep in mind that RAM is just important as a graphics card........

 

I have an AMD FX-6300, with 32 gigs of RAM  and ATI 6890

 

I figure with these specs...I'll be able run the game on medium settings until I can afford a better graphics card

 

If you are running less than 8 gigs of RAM right now and have room to add memory, you should upgrade that first because that will improve performance on your computer as it is.    RAM is also very inexpensive.  

 

Also wait until the system requirements come out...I bet that will be announced around the time of E3, if they are making this for the 360...they are not going to make the system requirements too outrageous