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[TKavatar]

People should keep in mind that RAM is just important as a graphics card........
 
I have an AMD FX-6300, with 32 gigs of RAM  and ATI 6890
 
I figure with these specs...I'll be able run the game on medium settings until I can afford a better graphics card
 
If you are running less than 8 gigs of RAM right now and have room to add memory, you should upgrade that first because that will improve performance on your computer as it is.    RAM is also very inexpensive.  
 
Also wait until the system requirements come out...I bet that will be announced around the time of E3, if they are making this for the 360...they are not going to make the system requirements too outrageous

 

Why do you have so much RAM Do you render videos or something?

[Lexxbomb]

I would suggest going to http://www.systemrequirementslab.com and trying you system under Battlefield 4 as that is what the game engine uses. It gives you advice on what is recommended

[Melca36]

Why do you have so much RAM Do you render videos or something?

 

Truthfully, I overbuilt and my motherboard had enough slots. 

I do a lot of photoshop and play alot of different games and it does improve performance. I've come to believe everyone should have at least 16gigs of RAM. They will see a marked improvement in performance just by that.

[SunburnedPenguin]

I would suggest going to http://www.systemrequirementslab.com and trying you system under Battlefield 4 as that is what the game engine uses. It gives you advice on what is recommended

 

Thats a great link, thanks!

 

Failed lol. Graphics card failed on minimum requirements, and ALL failed (apart from disk space) in reccomended :/

 

It's a useful list to bookmark and check out thier recommendations:

 

(Recommended specs, not minimum)

8Gb RAM

3GB AMD Radeon HD 7870 / NVIDIA Geforce GTX 660 or better

AMD Six-core CPU, Intel quad-core CPU or better

 

But will also need a new MB and PSU to cope with all that.

 

Some good advice in this thread to wait until nearer the time for latest products, thanks, I'll get saving and hopefully have a little more to spend by the end of summer:)

[Spirit Keeper]

Thanks all. I would rather spend money on upgrading then going over to console. I have a PS3 but have never used it to game, it's just not my bag. Thanks for the suggestion though

 

So i'm getting the idea that I really need to be looking at a new CPU and PSU too. That doable I guess. Atleast I have a few months to get saving lol.

Personally, while a lot of people are recommending Nvidia, I would stick with Radeon. I find Nvidia gives up on a game after about a year to a year and a half. After which time their newer GPUs and Drivers tend to be glitchy with older titles. Radeon cards tend to more expensive for the same power as an equivalent Nvidia card however. But in terms of overall compatibility with new and older games Radeon is better. 

 

Nvidia is to focused on 'the now'. These are just my thoughts and suggestions however.

[TKavatar]

Personally, while a lot of people are recommending Nvidia, I would stick with Radeon. I find Nvidia gives up on a game after about a year to a year and a half. After which time their newer GPUs and Drivers tend to be glitchy with older titles. Radeon cards tend to more expensive for the same power as an equivalent Nvidia card however. But in terms of overall compatibility with new and older games Radeon is better. 
 
Nvidia is to focused on 'the now'. These are just my thoughts and suggestions however.

Em, AMD cards tend to be much cheaper than Nvidia cards of equivalent performance usually. There was a spike in AMD card prices in the US ( didn't affect Europe and Australia that much) recently due to litecoin mining, but now that fad has died down and prices are back to normal.

[Spirit Keeper]

Em, AMD cards tend to be much cheaper than Nvidia cards of equivalent performance usually. There was a spike in AMD card prices in the US ( didn't affect Europe and Australia that much) recently due to litecoin mining, but now that fad has died down and prices are back to normal.

Oh, well even better then. I think some sites here in the UK are just over charging then.

[TKavatar]

Uh...isn't Mantle a GPU thing? It doesn't have anything to do with a CPU, does it? As in, get a Radeon, not necessarily an AMD chip.

Mantle is a API like DirectX that the game uses to communicate with the hardware but low level and much 'closer to the metal'. It reduces CPU overhead and increases performance in heavily CPU bound games so bottlenecks are a thing of the past.

It's similar to consoles in a way, they all use low level APIs that are optimised and tailored to take full advantage of the hardware.

[TKavatar]

...but isn't it bound to the GPU? As in, I have a 7870 along with an Intel CPU, and yet when I upgrade my version of Catalyst I will still gain a Mantle benefit because Mantle is a function of the graphics card, not the processor.
 
Link: http://www.amd.com/e...mantle#overview
 
The second point of "What Mantle Does" points out that Mantle is a function of GPUs, not a CPU.
 
I'm only making a "big deal" about this because I personally would suggest a Radeon, in part because of this, but I would suggest an Intel processor.

Yes, it only works for AMD GPUs right now. It doesn't matter which processor you use, it benefits all of them. Weaker CPUs tend to have a bigger performance boost in games than high end ones though.

[Caliann5]

Throwing my two cents in....

 

Or rather, asking for advice.

 

I'm buying a new computer right now. How would this configuration handle DA:I?

 

Intel Core i3 4130 3.40GHz (3MB cache) Haswell
1x 8GB DDR3 1600MHz
AMD Sapphire R7 260x 2GB DDR5
1000GB 7200rpm

[TKavatar]

Throwing my two cents in....
 
Or rather, asking for advice.
 
I'm buying a new computer right now. How would this configuration handle DA:I?
 
Intel Core i3 4130 3.40GHz (3MB cache) Haswell
1x 8GB DDR3 1600MHz
AMD Sapphire R7 260x 2GB DDR5
1000GB 7200rpm

Eh, it's an entry level - lower mid range build.

Are you building this yourself, or this is prebuilt? What's your budget?

[dlux]

Definitely get an AMD graphics card if you are planning to upgrade for DAI, because DAI will support the Mantle API. AMD graphics cards are just as good as Nvidia graphics cards, yet they are very economically priced and only they support the Mantle API. Mantle boosts performance pretty well, just check out benchmarks of how Thief (a single player game) runs with the Mantle API.
The Mantle API boosts performance by 20 to 25%, which is quite a bit. You'd have to pay about €200/$250 more to get the same performance with an Nvidia card, and that Nvidia card would also consume more power.  AMD's graphics technology also powers the PS4 and Xbox One (in case you didn't know), so don't worry, their GPUs are excellent.
 
Your CPU is also quite old, it would really be a good idea to upgrade it too. An AMD FX.-6300 is pretty cheap and will run the game very well, if you want some more power then get an AMD FX-8350 or Intel Core i5-4440.
 
AMD R9 270X or AMD R9 280X are both excellent choices for a graphics card.
 
You'll also need new DDR3 ram (8GB is more than enough for gaming) and a new mainboard too of course.
 

Yes, it only works for AMD GPUs right now. It doesn't matter which processor you use, it benefits all of them. Weaker CPUs tend to have a bigger performance boost in games than high end ones though.

 
Mantle will never work with an Nvidia graphics card though. Not in its current form at least.

[dlux]

Throwing my two cents in....

 

Or rather, asking for advice.

 

I'm buying a new computer right now. How would this configuration handle DA:I?

 

Intel Core i3 4130 3.40GHz (3MB cache) Haswell
1x 8GB DDR3 1600MHz
AMD Sapphire R7 260x 2GB DDR5
1000GB 7200rpm

Yeah, it will run DAI. Not on the highest grapics settings, but it will run well.

 

An 8 GB DDR3 kit (= 2 x 4 GB sticks of ram) is better, because it raises the bandwidth.

 

The CPU would suffice, although in this price range an AMD FX-6300 is a bit better.

 

I would also recommend a more powerful graphics card, like an R9 270X.

[TKavatar]

 
Mantle will never work with an Nvidia graphics card though. Not in its current form at least.

That's what I just said...and yeah I don't think Nvidia will do it, not with DX12 coming out next year.

[Setiweb]

Best Graphics Cards For The Money: April 2014

[SunburnedPenguin]

I've decided, since most of this PC will need upgrading, I may aswell just build a new one. As I said before, this one is still good for other stuff I use it for (net, media streaming, photoshop). I can then have a dedicated gaming machine

 

It was a few years ago I built this one and I remember the weeks of research making sure every part was compatible, so this time I think i'm just going to find a great gaming rig and copy its specs as closely as possible.

 

This is lush and has good reviews http://www.originpc....ops/millennium/ but it's priced for the case and other novelties and it's not clear what the specs are.

 

Ack I don't know. Maybe I should just find the best motherbard I can afford and work out compatibility from there?

[SunburnedPenguin]

I found this quite an interesting read

 

http://www.techradar...uild-it-1119528

[SunburnedPenguin]

Oh, this website is awesome. Just what I need!

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/

[bEVEsthda]

It's easy.

This is the sh---!

Two Radeon R9 295 in crossfire configuration.

 

http://www.tomshardw...mance,3808.html

 

Of course, there are some complications... 

You need 1000W just for the graphics boards, and appropriate liquid cooling (The factory provided liquid cooling seem to be under-dimensioned, judging by THW's problems, so crank up something better). You also need to get rid of all the heat in the second confinement as well. So do get an efficient AC for your room. You may need to upgrade your power wiring in your house.

But all these secondary requirements mean that the cost of the cards alone is relatively low, in the big picture, to say.  Only $3000 for the graphics cards (€2200 + VAT)

[mrpoultry]

Thats a great link, thanks!

 

Failed lol. Graphics card failed on minimum requirements, and ALL failed (apart from disk space) in reccomended :/

 

It's a useful list to bookmark and check out thier recommendations:

 

(Recommended specs, not minimum)

8Gb RAM

3GB AMD Radeon HD 7870 / NVIDIA Geforce GTX 660 or better

AMD Six-core CPU, Intel quad-core CPU or better

 

But will also need a new MB and PSU to cope with all that.

 

Some good advice in this thread to wait until nearer the time for latest products, thanks, I'll get saving and hopefully have a little more to spend by the end of summer:)

In my experience System Requirements Lab is unreliable and is best discarded. You'll have a better time with www.game-debate.com. The people there are friendly and most of time are extremely helpful.  

[SunburnedPenguin]

It's easy.

This is the sh---!

Two Radeon R9 295 in crossfire configuration.

 

http://www.tomshardw...mance,3808.html

 

Of course, there are some complications... 

You need 1000W just for the graphics boards, and appropriate liquid cooling (The factory provided liquid cooling seem to be under-dimensioned, judging by THW's problems, so crank up something better). You also need to get rid of all the heat in the second confinement as well. So do get an efficient AC for your room. You may need to upgrade your power wiring in your house.

But all these secondary requirements mean that the cost of the cards alone is relatively low, in the big picture, to say.  Only $3000 for the graphics cards (€2200 + VAT)

 

 

Yeah what the hell, I have a few grand spare to waste.

 

/not.