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[SunburnedPenguin]

In my experience System Requirements Lab is unreliable and is best discarded. You'll have a better time with www.game-debate.com. The people there are friendly and most of time are extremely helpful.  

 

I'll give them a try, thanks

[iggy4566]

get a titan Z 

[philippe willaume]

I've decided, since most of this PC will need upgrading, I may aswell just build a new one. As I said before, this one is still good for other stuff I use it for (net, media streaming, photoshop). I can then have a dedicated gaming machine

 

It was a few years ago I built this one and I remember the weeks of research making sure every part was compatible, so this time I think i'm just going to find a great gaming rig and copy its specs as closely as possible.

 

This is lush and has good reviews http://www.originpc....ops/millennium/ but it's priced for the case and other novelties and it's not clear what the specs are.

 

Ack I don't know. Maybe I should just find the best motherbard I can afford and work out compatibility from there?

 

Hello 

 

if that helps, I have built my pc about a year ago. as you said you sill still have to do your own research as to what is teh best for what you wanted.

when i built this one AMD motherboard and proc where a very good bang for buck, but that was then

 

it is a NZXT phantom tower

a corsair 900 W psy

16 Mg ram (4* CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8)

a AMD FX8150 (bulldozer) 

a Asus/ROG crosshair V formulla (the Z came was not available then...)

2 250 SSD and a few HDD

and two gtx550i

a 24" wide screen samsung monitor (1080 p native)

 

go for a large tower case, with plenty of fans.

you have space to put you hands

you have apace to put your cards

should you wish to you have space to put a proper water cooling system.

stuff that get hot is far away from each other

adding bit and pieces do not mess with your air flow

cable management is a doodle

 

ps for the phantom if you use expendable water cooler units like the corsair H100 make sure that you have either low profile Simm or buy low profile fans  tp replace the one that comes with the H100,

 

for the CPU here is an interesting article 

http://www.tomshardw...clock,3106.html

if you can go for a extendable water cooling system, it is easy to install cheaper than proper water cooling and will give the performance similar to a to end air cooling when the condition are optimal.

 

For the MB go for the MB that has the feature you want (IE if you want to do SLI/crossfire makes sure that you have at least 2 PCi-e*16 slots)

 

 

For the GPU, well I used to buy high end card and then I found that

since i already had gtx 550 ti for troubleshooting, I just bough another one to see if the result were as good as that guy said. 

and it turns out that he was right.

I can't comment on crossfire, as i never used it and of course those cards are obsolete now. but it show that you do have to break the bank.

a 760 or  280, or 770 should do fine

here are a few benchmarks for battelfiedl 4 using the frostbite 3 engine.

 

http://www.eteknix.c...eration-gpus/5/

http://www.pcgamesha...karten-1095050/

 

http://www.techspot....d-4-benchmarks/

 

In most case a 760 sli will be as good if not better than a single 780ti  (and about 80-150 quids cheaper as well, but that the same story since the 500 series)

 

with the new Nvidia proc supposedly for this year summer or winter  and 4k prices dropping, your guess is as good as mine. 

 

phil

[SunburnedPenguin]

Some great info and links there Phil, thanks

[philippe willaume]

cheers 

de nada

let us know witch way you fell...

what you're target resolution ?

[Spirit Keeper]

Idk what people's obsession with SLI/Crossfire/Multi-GPU is. Many games don't actively support it anyway and most games will flip their sh*t if you use one of those. A single, strong graphics card is much better.  

[philippe willaume]

Idk what people's obsession with SLI/Crossfire/Multi-GPU is. Many games don't actively support it anyway and most games will flip their sh*t if you use one of those. A single, strong graphics card is much better.  

 

well yes and no. it is has more to do with what you want to achieve than a technical absolute. in short, I don't think there is a right solution. 

 

If you are not so  keen on OC and/or tweaking, any benefits from SLI will probably look like more bother than it is worth.

 

as well i think SLI is something you have in mind when you build/buy.IE SLI  is not going to deliver what you expect if when you SLI your PCI-E*16 becomes a PCI-E*8 because the other PCI-E is *8.

so there is an hidden cost in PSU and MB. but for people that already have MoBO and the PSU.  Low end SLI gtx760 will get you in gtx480 ti for 3/4 of the price. 

It is true that  some game will not benefit or benefit very little of the two GPU or  3 GPU, just like some game do not run as well on one GPU brand as the other.

That being said  The drivers supports a fair few games so no direct support is not such an issue. and nowdays SLI works quite well and is fairly easy to set up, that being said you will have too tweak the drivers but Nvidia has tool that makes that a bit simpler than what it used to be, i haven't used downsampling for donkeys

 

To get 4k perf you have to either wait, play at lower settings or go SLI/crossfire.

 

given those results (

http://www.digitalst...at-4k-idnum228/

and the fact that we can get a a 4k 28" in true 60 Hz for 400 quids

 

It is difficult to tell if they are not going to trying to flog us a dual gup (ie ftx780ti Z like the 295x2) for SLI/Crossfire setup before getting on with the next generation

 

That being said I am not convinced that anything more that 4* AMD/Nvidai modern AA on 24" @1080p is really necessary (the result of down sampling x2 are  more than good enough)

So I  would guess that for 24" and 1440p or 27"  1600 p or a 28" 4k  you really don't need any AA.

 

phil

[bzombo]

Yes and i'm guessing new casing aswell lol.

 

Maybe i'll look at some finance options to just get a new gaming machine. This one is still good for a while for everything else

If it is available in the U.K., it might be a good idea to apply for Bill Me Later. A lot of online computer businesses are accepting Paypal/Bill Me Later and if you get a computer that costs enough you have 12 months to pay it off without paying finance charges. In the U.S. the amount is $499.