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You got to admit, the veil and mages REALLY DO cause a lot of problems.


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Huh? 

You told that blood magic don't makes powerful mage much more powerful and yet blood magic increases power of your spells and for that very reason every mage in tev uses blood magic (well those in positions) and even fenris admited that those who don't all can do is crying...



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You told that blood magic don't makes powerful mage much more powerful and yet blood magic increases power of your spells and for that very reason every mage in tev uses blood magic (well those in positions) and even fenris admited that those who don't all can do is crying...

 

That's not what I said.. God.. 

Blood is a source of power, the more blood the more the power yes. What I said was that if a POWERFUL mage used only their own blood they wouldn't get a big power spike. That's it. 

If you are a powerful mage you would need many sacrifices before you could overshadow your natural mana supply. You want to tell me that magisters throws hundreds of dead slaves at each other everytime they fight? 


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That's not what I said.. God.. 

Blood is a source of power, the more blood the more the power yes. What I said was that if a POWERFUL mage used only their own blood they wouldn't get a big power spike. That's it. 

If you are a powerful mage you would need many sacrifices before you could overshadow your natural mana supply. You want to tell me that magisters throws hundreds of dead slaves at each other everytime they fight? 

 

And that isn't in case...

First blood magic can make you more powerful see tev slaver in alienage who can use blood magic to make you stronger

Second as i said even most powerfull mages are forced to use blood magic and as fenris said if they don't they can only cry...

Third no i doubt they carry 1000 slaves with them 1 or 2 but also they can use jowan style ;) and well i doubt that magister would cry if he used random person that was nerbay as power up ;)



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So i haven't checked this thread in a while, last time i was here it was 3 pages.

 

 

Have any progress been made in any way? Has people changed their opinion, or acknowledged that both sides have positives and negatives?

 

 

No? Carry on :P

 

Most definitely. 

 

Just eariler, myself, MisterJB and Master Warder Z were talking about the difficulties of life in Thedas and how if we all worked together everyone can be happy. 


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Oh god i feel like i just got caught in the middle of a flame war.

 

 

 

RIP me. 1996-2014 "He burned to death"



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So what if nuke person showed goverment would treat it in different way and i can tell less nice way despite it being person...

 

Pff do i have to tell you that tevinter was pretty much one of first human cultures and only empire in thedas their only enemies were elves or pretty much wild barbarians rather not much to handle now tevinter couldn't even have chance to conquer thedas.So yeah have how it looks in reality for mages

 

The reality is every country in Thedas wants to destroy Tevinter but they can't. They've withstood everything the world could throw at them and are still standing. Heck they've been fighting the Qunari solo for years... It took the combined efforts of all Thedas to push the Qunari away but Tevinter is able to keep the Qunari at a standstill by themselves.

 

If it wasn't for the Qunari I have no doubt the southern countries would be quickly absorbed by the Tevinter especially now that they Chantry doesn't have mages to use an combat Tevinter.



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Most definitely. 

 

Just eariler, myself, MisterJB and Master Warder Z were talking about the difficulties of life in Thedas and how if we all worked together everyone can be happy. 

I know you're joking, but your post still ruined my joke!

 

 

It wasn't a good joke anyway.



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Maybe you should read the book again. Tensions were high in the tower after Anders' terrorism and the attempt on the Divine's life. Rhys had already been summoned by the Lord Seeker and found suspicious due to his connection to the Libertarians. (as it turned out, he was right because Rhys ponders at the end of the book that Cole was, most likely, using him to commit the murders.)

Then he leaves the rooms at night, deliberately distracts a Templars which implies he didn't want them to see what he was doing, releases destructive spells in the basements of the tower and refuses to answer the Knight Captain's questions when confronted.

The only reasonable thing to do was to confine him.

 

That is not a reason to put the guy in prison.
 
 
MisterJb wrote: He was breaking curfew and throwing destructive spells around after a member of his political group attempted to assassinate the Divine.
Anyone in Thedas would have locked him up.
 
Answer not true. That is not what he was charged with. He was charged with being a murder suspect and they had no proof. You wrote generalizations but did not write the actual charge. You can’t put someone in jail because tensions are high. They didn’t care about the people murdered. They wanted names of blood mages. They had nothing on him. They were going to let him die of dehydration and they didn’t have the evidence for murders. Remember all the murders already happen. All were stabbed with daggers. The Lord Seeker wanted names to tie more blood mages with the attempted assassination of the Divine.
 
Misterjb wrote: This being the same book where, after the mages made some noise, Lord Seeker Lambert released a suspect in an ongoing investigation?
 
No again. Wynne force him to release her son with an order by the Divine.
 
If you didn’t catch this Lord Seeker was the villain.

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I laughed; it was spot on and had good comedic timing.



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First blood magic can make you more powerful see tev slaver in alienage who can use blood magic to make you stronger

 

Hoooly crap, really? No sht.. 

You understand the difference between words ''can'' and ''does'', and words ''more'' and ''little'' / ''a lot''? 

 

Second as i said even most powerfull mages are forced to use blood magic and as fenris said if they don't they can only cry...

 

I don't care what that little glowing fellow said. If they need to use blood magic to stay afloat, they are not powerful period. 

 

 

Third no i doubt they carry 1000 slaves with them 1 or 2 but also they can use jowan style ;) and well i doubt that magister would cry if he used random person that was nerbay as power up ;)

 

I doubt they use those slave options often at all, as Blood magic is still officially prohibited in Tevinter, and anyone who openly did it would stand trial, so yeah they would cry in a cell, if they used a random person. 1 or 2 unlike a 1000, don't give a big powerspike, and that was my point.



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The reality is every country in Thedas wants to destroy Tevinter but they can't. They've withstood everything the world could throw at them and are still standing. Heck they've been fighting the Qunari solo for years... It took the combined efforts of all Thedas to push the Qunari away but Tevinter is able to keep the Qunari at a standstill by themselves.

 

If it wasn't for the Qunari I have no doubt the southern countries would be quickly absorbed by the Tevinter especially now that they Chantry doesn't have mages to use an combat Tevinter.

 

Qunari kicked their a** once almost entirely not mention that qunari hardly even care about tevinter attacks as they not even seriously responded and tev unsuccessfully and hopelessly get Seheron back...

 

Yes they have templars anti-mages and without mages all templars could be use to fight with tev...



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Qunari kicked their a** once almost entirely not mention that qunari hardly even care about tevinter attacks as they not even seriously responded and tev unsuccessfully and hopelessly get Seheron back...

 

Yes they have templars anti-mages and without mages all templars could be use to fight with tev...

 

Yeah that's why they fight for such a long time, because one side is clearly stronger.

 

Also without mages templars wouldn't even be trained. 


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Hoooly crap, really? No sht.. 

You understand the difference between words ''can'' and ''does'', and words ''more'' and ''little'' / ''a lot''? 

 

 

I don't care what that little glowing fellow said. If they need to use blood magic to stay afloat, they are not powerful period. 

 

 

 

I doubt they use those slave options often at all, as Blood magic is still officially prohibited in Tevinter, and anyone who openly did it would stand trial, so yeah they would cry in a cell, if they used a random person. 1 or 2 unlike a 1000, don't give a big powerspike, and that was my point.

1.It does and a lot...

 

2.Well thats your call but it is fact that even most powerful mages reach for blood magic because it gives them much more power and thats how things work in tevinter...

 

3.Blood magic is open secret everyone knows that unless those who are naive.. lol 1 magister killed another magister in battle so they will cry over non-mage plase... now we are going into naive territory or desperate...

 

4.Yep it does a little blood that jowan used (well 3 liters of his own blood :lol: ) gave him much power 1 killed person would give much more and 2 even more...

 

 

 

Yeah that's why they fight for such a long time, because one side is clearly stronger.

 

Also without mages templars wouldn't even be trained. 

 

As far i know qunari are only fight off when tev attacks but as far they aren't intrested in serious conquest and fenris said if qunari wanted conquer they would and well considering last time they kicked their ass almost entirely not counting capital they could...

 

And who would kill mages?



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This seems more like a discussion for a blood mage thread.



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1.It does and a lot...

 

2.Well thats your call but it is fact that even most powerful mages reach for blood magic because it gives them much more power and thats how things work in tevinter...

 

3.Blood magic is open secret everyone knows that unless those who are naive.. lol 1 magister killed another magister in battle so they will cry over non-mage plase... now we are going into naive territory or desperate...

 

4.Yep it does a little blood that jowan used (well 3 liters of his own blood :lol: ) gave him much power 1 killed person would give much more and 2 even more...

 

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I can't.. really, you just don't let the words reach you. We are going in circles.


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This seems more like a discussion for a blood mage thread.

 

Well they are kinda related to mage problems, but yeah a little derail, soz.



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I can't.. really, you just don't let the words reach you. We are going in circles.

Well truth may be hard accept but perhaps one day you will accept it and i will gladly help you in that because im partly sadist :devil:



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I have trouble seeing mages as problems when, in my playthrough, one ended the Blight, never turned to Blood Magic, and used his skills to defend.  In Kirkwall, my mage did his best to keep the city stable.  

 

Obviously, without mages the world goes up in flames.

 

Obviously.



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As far i know qunari are only fight off when tev attacks but as far they aren't intrested in serious conquest and fenris said if qunari wanted conquer they would and well considering last time they kicked their ass almost entirely not counting capital they could...

 

And who would kill mages?

 

No, the attacks are back and forth with each side attacking the other and fighting the other off. The war is at a stand still. Again Fenris knows the strength of the Qunari army how? Based on what? The only reason they took ground from the Tevinter in the first place was because it was a surprise attack. Ever since the surprise attack they've been evenly matched. Tevinter has much more land than just the capital but it hasn't lost any of it since the treaty was passed with the other countries proving that they are more than capable of defending themselves from beyond their capital.

 

The Codex states that they are both fighting for control of the north of Thedas which proves that neither side has the advantage and each is trying to gain an advantage over the other so they can focus on the rest of Thedas.
 



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Tbh:

Well truth may be hard accept but perhaps one day you will accept it and i will gladly help you in that because im partly sadist :devil:

 

Either that, or maybe has to do something with language barrier. I just don't feel like I can get through to you, you reply to different points than what I am addressing. 



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I have trouble seeing mages as problems when, in my playthrough, one ended the Blight, never turned to Blood Magic, and used his skills to defend.  In Kirkwall, my mage did his best to keep the city stable.  

 

Obviously, without mages the world goes up in flames.

 

Obviously.

Yes the warden and hawke can be mages that don't suffer any negative consequences of being mage or reaver great examples... not mention they are protagonist...

 

 

No, the attacks are back and forth with each side attacking the other and fighting the other off. The war is at a stand still. Again Fenris knows the strength of the Qunari army how? Based on what? The only reason they took ground from the Tevinter in the first place was because it was a surprise attack. Ever since the surprise attack they've been evenly matched. Tevinter has much more land than just the capital but it hasn't lost any of it since the treaty was passed with the other countries proving that they are more than capable of defending themselves from beyond their capital.

 

The Codex states that they are both fighting for control of the north of Thedas which proves that neither side has the advantage and each is trying to gain an advantage over the other so they can focus on the rest of Thedas.
 

 

Well because fenris probably fought with qunari on seheron? His master was also forced to left him there and he spend a lot of time with warriors there so he knows better than you .

 

As i said only tevinter capital lasted when qunari went on the stage last time...

 

 

 

Tbh:

 

Either that, or maybe has to do something with language barrier. I just don't feel like I can get through to you, you reply to different points than what I am addressing. 

 

Well now i know why you claim that i said something i didn't because well you see what you want so see. ;)



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Well now i know why you claim that i said something i didn't because well you see what you want so see. ;)

 

No wait, that's my line. 



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No wait, that's my line. 

Well you never had to use it i had to many times in your side sadly...



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Well because fenris probably fought with qunari on seheron? His master was also forced to left him there and he spend a lot of time with warriors there so he knows better than you .

 

As i said only tevinter capital lasted when qunari went on the stage last time...

 

 

 

 

Yes he spent time with the warriors there... warriors that Fenris was able to kill by himself. So to recap a Tevinter designed weapon was able to single handily kill all the warriors... I don't think I have to explain what that means.  Fenris is a very emotional guy when it comes to Tevinter so he has some wishful thinking.

 

Wrong. The Tevinter lost Par Vollen but they never lost the territory that they have on the mainland of Thedas. You're thinking about Adraste's Exalted March that was stopped at their capital. The Qunari only took Par Vollen and land from a country that was east of Tevinter whose name escapes me at the moment. However lets pretend that the Qunari did take all that land... that means the Tevinter was able to beat them completely off every speck of land on the continent of Thedas which would prove easily that the Qunari aren't the superior military force.

 

The simply truth is both sides are evenly matched. One has a tech advantage while the other had the magic advantage and neither has been able to do anything to the other in decades.



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Well you never had to use it i had to many times in your side sadly...

 

Reeeally? Ehehhehe.. 4412144b.gif

 

Keep it together Kain.. I need to take a brake. b210e58c.gif


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