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[KainD]

Well pretty much arguing that demons army is nothing and world would take care of it then when i crushed it you jump at another argument 

 

You didn't crush it. I never jumped to any other arguments. 

 

 

that mages could fix the veil 

 

No, I never said that, I don't know if it's possible. 

 

 

that mages are equal to demons or even stronger 

 

That is correct. It has nothing to do with being possessed. As I said, abominations come from the union of the two and the combined power which makes it 2x stronger, abomination is not just the demon. 

[TheKomandorShepard]

And you once more dance around the question of scale. If you're particularly unlucky, one of those will get you noticed by the central authorities of the Templars. The credible threat to the continent that Inquisition represents is because of many of those, coupled with the Templars and the Orlesian government being too distracted to out-Zergling him. That's the problem with conquering a world, not "he couldn't know how world looks like."

As i said 1000 times that was army of demons most destructive and powerful creatures in setting feared for good reason and stated in lore very powerfull...

And as i said he wanted destroy qunari and he knew them...

And no once again army of demons>>>>blight

 

 

You didn't crush it. I never jumped to any other arguments. 

 

 

 

No, I never said that, I don't know if it's possible. 

 

 

 

That is correct. It has nothing to do with being possessed. As I said, abominations come from the union of the two and the combined power which makes it 2x stronger, abomination is not just the demon. 

 

LoL you practically said that with mages veil could be torn when i said that only inq can fix veil you jumped into another argument "then world would kill everything agressive that came out of veil"  so yep you said that.

 

MAge + Demon = abomnation so yep send them mages bright idea they will thank you for power up... not mention that FE with his peoples could even scratch pride demon same for FE and entire tower of mages in ferelden.

[KainD]

As i said 1000 times that was army of demons most destructive and powerful creatures in setting feared for good reason and stated in lore very powerfull...

 

So destructive and powerful that if Origins is correct a mage slaughters atleast about 2-3 to pass the harrowing. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

LoL he needed perform magical ritual thats why we still have da series because he didn't...

No, he needed to preform a blood ritual. There's a difference. The mask is already magic. It just needed elven blood. Any merc with a sword could have gotten the same result.

[Inprea]

All I'm saying is it is possible.

 

Because besides the Circle, Chantry buildings are where the most Templars are and their job is to watch mages. Wilhelm again is a rare case, Wynne you hear about in Asunder, You never enter the Chantry in Origins, Awakening I'll grant you, and in Kirkwall there is no need since there is a Circle next door in the harbor.

 

You seemed to be arguing that keeping the child with the mother would somehow reduce the risk of death or health problems. 

 

Yes and if you take out a mortgage on your home and go bet it all on one throw of the dice in Vegas you may get ten times your money. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to depend on such methods.

 

That part about not entering the chantry in origins is wrong. You enter the chantry in Loathering. You have to go there if you want the key to Sten's cage or to handle a few other little quest. You also enter the chantry in Red Cliff. It's used as it's the strongest building in the village. What do you hear about Wynne in Assunder? Saying you hear things about her doesn't mean she's living in the chantry or sees it as a nice place to hang out.

 

I did say that staying with the mage mother would reduce the chance of the child dieing from sickness, it's most likely killer if DA is remotely like our dark ages, due to easier access to magic healing, a clean environment, the advantages of breast feeding especially from a well fed mother who's in good health.

[KainD]

No, he needed to preform a blood ritual. There's a difference. 

 

A blood ritual or a blood magic ritual? 

[EmissaryofLies]

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

As i said 1000 times that was army of demons most destructive and powerful creatures in setting feared for good reason and stated in lore very powerfull...

And as i said he wanted destroy qunari and he knew them...

And no once again army of demons>>>>blight

You seem to have ignored my point as to the sheer scale of the Blight. No matter how much power your soldiers have, a few hundred (and I'm being generous) isn't tens of thousands. That is the threat of the Blight, and it's part of why I think the "army of demons" in Inquisition is a credible apocalypse scenario. But this guy? A fraction of the soldiers and no attempt at weakening the forces that are going to come at him before he makes any overt moves? No.

[TheKomandorShepard]

So destructive and powerful that if Origins is correct a mage slaughters atleast about 2-3 to pass the harrowing. 

Yep the warden protagonist chuck norris...

 

 

No, he needed to preform a blood ritual. There's a difference. The mask is already magic. It just needed elven blood. Any merc with a sword could have gotten the same result.

Nope eee he was preforming ritual? Same for finn in witch hunt... yeah of course another mage protector

To be honest i don't even why i argue with guy who told that you can sprint with heavy armor then when i mocked it posted video of slow run with heavey armor and when i mocked it too he didn't why i was mocking it insisting that he was right...

[Hanako Ikezawa]

A blood ritual or a blood magic ritual? 

 

Similarly to the Lights of Arlathan, the Mask required elven blood to work as it was meant to, and so the mage kidnapped a Dalish woman to use her blood in the ritual.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

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[TheKomandorShepard]

Similarly to the Lights of Arlathan, the Mask required elven blood to work as it was meant to, and so the mage kidnapped a Dalish woman to use her blood in the ritual.

"In order to locate the Lights, he needs a vial of her blood as a spell component."

 

"Have Finn cast the spell using Ariane's blood to make the Light visible"

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Yep the warden protagonist chuck norris...

That's as may be, but the fact remains that unless a mage goes among demons and risks meeting far worse odds, that mage can't even graduate as an apprentice.

[dragonflight288]

A blood ritual or a blood magic ritual? 

 

Blood magic, although there is no real difference. 

[TheKomandorShepard]

That's as may be, but the fact remains that unless a mage goes among demons and risks meeting far worse odds, that mage can't even graduate as an apprentice.

Well the warden was fighting with the weakest type of demon pretty much no mage would stand change against pride demon so luck test not mention that demon can exploit your weaknesses even without fight pretty much merril powerful mage but stupid 2 times almost possessed by pride demons.

 

Pretty much it is shown during circle vs demons twice mages were destroyed like nothing...

[Cobra's_back]

Wynne is coming back in DA:I, and she will be possessed by a Demon of Despair this time. 

 

The new improve Wynne 2.0. Demon of Despair fitting.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Blood magic, although there is no real difference. 

There is an entire world of a difference. One is a school of magic, the other is just magic with a blood component. You wouldn't call magic involving a feather "Feather Magic" either, just because a feather was involved.

[KainD]

What's the difference btw between inq closing the tears, and how Avernus closed a tear at wardens keep?

Oh and how warden closed the tears in awakening.

[TheKomandorShepard]

What's the difference btw between inq closing the tears, and how Avernus closed a tear at wardens keep?

Oh and how warden closed the tears in awakening.

Well the warden was fighting with it with sword do i have point why it is ridiculous

 

About Avernus either it is retcon (like lyrium and templars) or someone screwd with this dlc

 

Another explanation is if veil tear is very small you can fix it but i think it is first...

[KainD]

Well the warden was fighting with it with sword do i have point why it is ridiculous

 

About Avernus either it is retcon (like lyrium and templars) or someone screwd with this dlc

 

Another explanation is if veil tear is very small you can fix it but i think it is first...

 

Warden was fighting in the fade, it's just gameplay logic. 

 

Devs stated about lyrium and templars, not about Avernus. 

I guess if you don't like it it's a retcon? 

[TheKomandorShepard]

Warden was fighting in the fade, it's just gameplay logic. 

 

Devs stated about lyrium and templars, not about Avernus. 

I guess if you don't like it it's a retcon? 

Eee and where i said that devs said that? And pretty much thats what i said.

 

Well thats rather fact if they intended avernus stuff was there now it is retcon because it is said that only inq can fix veil...

And i would say otherwise if it is retcon i don't like it...

[Hellion Rex]

What's the difference btw between inq closing the tears, and how Avernus closed a tear at wardens keep?

Oh and how warden closed the tears in awakening.

Avernus used BM to close a small tear at Soldier's Peak.

 

 

Justice did something to our weapons to close the tears in Awakening.

 

I'm thinking there is something about these tears  (Cass mentions that they are growing) that requires our mark to seal.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Avernus used BM to close a small tear at Soldier's Peak.

 

 

Justice did something to our weapons to close the tears in Awakening.

 

I'm thinking there is something about these tears  (Cass mentions that they are growing) that requires our mark to seal.

Well the warden do the same in witch hunt so i don't think that they think about it just put that into game they retconed and changed a lot of things since dao.

[KainD]

Avernus used BM to close a small tear at Soldier's Peak.

 

So mages can close the tears? 

[MisterJB]

I have no problems with children going to the circle as soon as magic manifests. I think it is the right thing to do for the safety of those kids and those around them. Until ofcourse they passed their harrowing ( but I think there has to be a better way than harrowing)

What I have problems with is taking them to the circle and parents not given any access to them. There is just no happy medium and that is why I can understand parents would rather hide their kids and screw up in the process.

For those old enough to remember a happy family life it would be even harder. Now I just wonder what kind of sick things the chantry tell those kids why they dont see their family anymore.

Families are allowed to see their children; nobles are the most common cases but even Gamlen, who doesn't have a sovereign to his name was allowed to visit Bethany.

 

Of course, Kirkwall has the Circle in the middle of a city. It's probably different when it is situated in a remote area and the quickest means of transportation are horses which most people can't afford. Travel was very reduced in the Middle Ages.

 

And they should stay there after their Harrowing as well. The Circle should be for life.